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Lucky Me
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I am planning on buying a new computer in about 4 months and looking for the best buy/ best machine, I want a machine that can last for (let's say) 10 years. But I could replace parts in the future.

This computer is going to be used for (video/ photo) editing and playing World of Tanks (other games? What other games). I record the replays and put them on my own youtube channel (for fun)... 

 

Here are my components:

 

  • Intel Core i9-9900K - Processor
  • Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Master - motherboard
  • Samsung 970 EVO 1Tb M.2 - SSD
  • Gigabyte Aorus GeForce RTX 2080 Ti - Graphics card
  • Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 32Gb - Memory
  • Corsair HX series HX850W V2 Platinum 80+ - Power supply
  • Noctua NH-D15 - Processor cooler
  • Fractal Design Define R6 - Case
  • Acer Predator X34P - monitor
  • ASUS SDRW-08U1MT - DVD burner
  • Silverstone FP37 - card reader
  • Chenbro SK41202 - 5.25in bay for front panel

Did I forget anything? (just some thoughts)

  1. I don't need extra HDD because 1Tb is enough (I use some external HDD for storage) or......?
  2. Memory without RGB is cheaper, so I probably will go for that (who needs RGB, right) Yes it is and replaced it
  3. Would the Corsair cooling be good enough for the i9-9900K processor? As answered, no!
  4. in the case are 3 120mm fans in the front and 1 120mm fan in the back. Would you replace the fans with Noctua fans? The cooler for the processor is going in the top... Different case now and this is out of the way.
  5. I am used to 3 monitor setup (at this moment I have 3 24" monitors) but want to reduce it to 1 big monitor, or would you use 2 smaller monitors so it is cheaper? (at this moment the Predator coast me €979)
  6. 4K would be great and I guess it can be done here.
  7. I have the LG G413 Carbon keyboard, Razer Deathadder mouse and Edifier R1280T speakers, Behringer U-Phoria UM2 with Behringer mic.

 

I don't want to spend more than needed but want a computer that does the trick for me, money would be around €4000. The setup above is about €4350 €4078, so a bit too much but that's why I posted here to see if you guys have better ideas to make it a bit cheaper without losing too much power. I hope that in about 4 months the prices will be dropped ?

 

 

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In 4 months 3rd gen Ryzen will be out and we'll see what happens with that. Planning now is pointless.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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true, but I don't want Ryzen... and about the planning. I am looking for a computer, in 4 months it only gets cheaper. I don't see why I should buy a much newer processor because the i9-9900K is the newest so far and when there would be a newer processor (or others things), it would make this one cheaper...

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27 minutes ago, Lucky Me said:
  • Intel Core i9-9900K Processor
  • ASUS Prime Z370-A motherboard

power trottle

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2 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

power trottle

it means good?

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2 minutes ago, Lucky Me said:

it means good?

it means bad... a 9900k can pull around 200-280 watts on a good overclock. even for running stock i would get something like a z390 aorus

 

or if you want to stay inside asus a xi gene/apex/extreme

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20 minutes ago, Lucky Me said:

true, but I don't want Ryzen... and about the planning. I am looking for a computer, in 4 months it only gets cheaper. I don't see why I should buy a much newer processor because the i9-9900K is the newest so far and when there would be a newer processor (or others things), it would make this one cheaper...

Why wouldn't you want Ryzen? The new generation (comes out in ~2 months) is pretty good for gaming, unlike previous

Ryzen 7 3700X / 16GB RAM / Optane SSD / GTX 1650 / Solus Linux

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34 minutes ago, Lucky Me said:

about 4 months

then ask again in 4 months, this is not something you start planning so ahead of time like that since offerings and new products come up all the time.

Personal Desktop":

CPU: Intel Core i7 10700K @5ghz |~| Cooling: bq! Dark Rock Pro 4 |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Z490UD ATX|~| RAM: 16gb DDR4 3333mhzCL16 G.Skill Trident Z |~| GPU: RX 6900XT Sapphire Nitro+ |~| PSU: Corsair TX650M 80Plus Gold |~| Boot:  SSD WD Green M.2 2280 240GB |~| Storage: 1x3TB HDD 7200rpm Seagate Barracuda + SanDisk Ultra 3D 1TB |~| Case: Fractal Design Meshify C Mini |~| Display: Toshiba UL7A 4K/60hz |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro.

Luna, the temporary Desktop:

CPU: AMD R9 7950XT  |~| Cooling: bq! Dark Rock 4 Pro |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Aorus Master |~| RAM: 32G Kingston HyperX |~| GPU: AMD Radeon RX 7900XTX (Reference) |~| PSU: Corsair HX1000 80+ Platinum |~| Windows Boot Drive: 2x 512GB (1TB total) Plextor SATA SSD (RAID0 volume) |~| Linux Boot Drive: 500GB Kingston A2000 |~| Storage: 4TB WD Black HDD |~| Case: Cooler Master Silencio S600 |~| Display 1 (leftmost): Eizo (unknown model) 1920x1080 IPS @ 60Hz|~| Display 2 (center): BenQ ZOWIE XL2540 1920x1080 TN @ 240Hz |~| Display 3 (rightmost): Wacom Cintiq Pro 24 3840x2160 IPS @ 60Hz 10-bit |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro (games / art) + Linux (distro: NixOS; programming and daily driver)
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Just now, Princess Cadence said:

then ask again in 4 months, this is not something you start planning so ahead of time like that since offerings and new products come up all the time.

I would.....

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2 minutes ago, NunoLava1998 said:

Why wouldn't you want Ryzen? The new generation (comes out in ~2 months) is pretty good for gaming, unlike previous

Could be, but I just want intel... Don't know why but I just want to. Why change a winning team, if it ain't broken...... 

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Just now, Lucky Me said:

Could be, but I just want intel... Don't know why but I just want to. Why change a winning team, if it ain't broken...... 

The 9900K consumes a lot of power, needs good VRMs, needs extremely good cooling and has no upgradability at all.

Also, Ryzen is the winning team for a lot of places right now, in Mindfactory (a tech store from Germany) it's outselling Intel 2:1.

Ryzen 7 3700X / 16GB RAM / Optane SSD / GTX 1650 / Solus Linux

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Just now, CUDAcores89 said:

IF you want your rig to last 10 years, you need to look at AMDs and intels enthusiast sockets like LGA 3647, threadripper, and x299. A mainstream platform is not gonna cut it for the long haul.

 

As an example, there are still people using intels X58 platform that came out 10 years ago for gaming. That is the power of choosing a high end motherboards combined with cheap future upgrades.

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At 4.5GHz, the i9-9980XE drew an additional 216W from the wall, putting the total power consumption at around 574W.

-PCPer

Ryzen 7 3700X / 16GB RAM / Optane SSD / GTX 1650 / Solus Linux

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40 minutes ago, Lucky Me said:

Would the Corsair cooling be good enough for the i9-9900K processor?

i would prefer a nhd15/drp4 personally btw

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Just now, NunoLava1998 said:

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Jokes aside, yes an enthusiast platform is the best way. I'd go for X399 as it has upgradability to 3rd gen ThreadRipper

Ryzen 7 3700X / 16GB RAM / Optane SSD / GTX 1650 / Solus Linux

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Just now, CUDAcores89 said:

The goal for OP is to build a PC that lasts a long time. Unless power is extremely expensive where you live, it makes no sense to upgrade frequently to save on power consumption when most people pay 10-20 cents per kwh.

how do you cool a 600W CPU is my question

Ryzen 7 3700X / 16GB RAM / Optane SSD / GTX 1650 / Solus Linux

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Just now, CUDAcores89 said:

With a 600w CPU cooler.

Name one 600W CPU cooler

Ryzen 7 3700X / 16GB RAM / Optane SSD / GTX 1650 / Solus Linux

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Just now, CUDAcores89 said:

Custom watercooling.

Yeah but you probably need 500mm+

Ryzen 7 3700X / 16GB RAM / Optane SSD / GTX 1650 / Solus Linux

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30 minutes ago, Lucky Me said:

true, but I don't want Ryzen... and about the planning. I am looking for a computer, in 4 months it only gets cheaper. I don't see why I should buy a much newer processor because the i9-9900K is the newest so far and when there would be a newer processor (or others things), it would make this one cheaper...

Just as it's too early to say how good or bad Ryzen will be, 4 months could be too early for you to say you don't want it. If Ryzen comes out cheaper and on par or better than the 9900K would you stick with 9900K for Intel's brand loyalty or pay less for something equivalent or better? Obviously, if Ryzen isn't as good, then don't go for it. But it's too early to say Ryzen will be an Intel 9900K killer just as it's too early to say it won't.

 

So why not buy a newer processor if it's cheaper and better/same? The 9900K is currently about $480 USD+, plus the cost of the MB. AMD boards generally cost less, and even if the processor is $400, it's $80 cheaper plus cost of the MB. Too many variables to say anything about pricing or performance.

 

...That is unless there would be a reason to stick with Intel over AMD if AMD offered something cheaper and competitive. My 2 cents, so I'll shush now.

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As others have said, it's way too soon to start planning now. 4 months is a long time, new products are introduced, prices fluctuate, and we have the huge launch of Ryzen 3 coming up; if you're going to ignore it, then you could possibly be making a massive mistake. Blind brand loyalty makes absolutely no sense. If you have quantifiable reasons, then sure, go ahead.

 

2 hours ago, Lucky Me said:

true, but I don't want Ryzen... and about the planning. I am looking for a computer, in 4 months it only gets cheaper. I don't see why I should buy a much newer processor because the i9-9900K is the newest so far and when there would be a newer processor (or others things), it would make this one cheaper...

It won't. RAM and SSD storage prices change all the time, not only in general, but via part per part, and sales pop up. Maybe something significantly better will be on sale when you're finally ready to build. There's absolutely no way for you to know that right now.

2 hours ago, Lucky Me said:

I would.....

And you'd be doing it wrong.

CPU: Ryzen 9 5900 Cooler: EVGA CLC280 Motherboard: Gigabyte B550i Pro AX RAM: Kingston Hyper X 32GB 3200mhz

Storage: WD 750 SE 500GB, WD 730 SE 1TB GPU: EVGA RTX 3070 Ti PSU: Corsair SF750 Case: Streacom DA2

Monitor: LG 27GL83B Mouse: Razer Basilisk V2 Keyboard: G.Skill KM780 Cherry MX Red Speakers: Mackie CR5BT

 

MiniPC - Sold for $100 Profit

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CPU: Intel i3 4160 Cooler: Integrated Motherboard: Integrated

RAM: G.Skill RipJaws 16GB DDR3 Storage: Transcend MSA370 128GB GPU: Intel 4400 Graphics

PSU: Integrated Case: Shuttle XPC Slim

Monitor: LG 29WK500 Mouse: G.Skill MX780 Keyboard: G.Skill KM780 Cherry MX Red

 

Budget Rig 1 - Sold For $750 Profit

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CPU: Intel i5 7600k Cooler: CryOrig H7 Motherboard: MSI Z270 M5

RAM: Crucial LPX 16GB DDR4 Storage: Intel S3510 800GB GPU: Nvidia GTX 980

PSU: Corsair CX650M Case: EVGA DG73

Monitor: LG 29WK500 Mouse: G.Skill MX780 Keyboard: G.Skill KM780 Cherry MX Red

 

OG Gaming Rig - Gone

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CPU: Intel i5 4690k Cooler: Corsair H100i V2 Motherboard: MSI Z97i AC ITX

RAM: Crucial Ballistix 16GB DDR3 Storage: Kingston Fury 240GB GPU: Asus Strix GTX 970

PSU: Thermaltake TR2 Case: Phanteks Enthoo Evolv ITX

Monitor: Dell P2214H x2 Mouse: Logitech MX Master Keyboard: G.Skill KM780 Cherry MX Red

 

 

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So far so good. I love to work to the end and with some help from you guys I came up with this setup SO FAR:

 

  • Intel Core i9-9900K - Processor
  • Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Master - motherboard
  • Samsung 970 EVO 1Tb M.2 - SSD
  • Gigabyte Aorus GeForce RTX 2080 Ti - Graphics card
  • Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 32Gb - Memory
  • Corsair HX series HX850W V2 Platinum 80+ - Power supply
  • Noctua NH-D15 - Processor cooler
  • Fractal Design Define R6 - Case
  • Acer Predator X34P - monitor
  • ASUS SDRW-08U1MT - DVD burner
  • Silverstone FP37 - card reader
  • Chenbro SK41202 - 5.25in bay

Of course, anything could change but it won't be much ?

 

  1. Intel because it handles Adobe a bit better (as a said in the first post)
  2. NVIDIA because World of Tanks loves it
  3. those two above because I love them and have a very good experience with them (why change a winning team)

So until the time is here.......

 

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Thx for your post Lee. The thing is... I don’t like RGB. I am to old for that. 

 

My next mission is to see if I can get it without the RGB. That’s why I love to plan these ideas a few months ahead.....

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2 hours ago, Lucky Me said:

Thx for your post Lee. The thing is... I don’t like RGB. I am to old for that. 

 

My next mission is to see if I can get it without the RGB. That’s why I love to plan these ideas a few months ahead.....

I am not a fan of RGB myself to be honest. One reason why I have a non windowed case.

 

The Alphacool Eisbaer LT360 or BeQuiet SilentLoop 360mm would be my 'non RGB' suggestion for liquid coolers then. Maybe look at the Phanteks P600S or Fractal Meshify S2 etc if you want a non RGB case.

 

Or if you want a big air cooler like the D15 you have selected (Or BeQuiet Dark Rock Pro 4) then I would swap out the Ram for some Corsair LPX or similar so that is fits under without any issues.

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