Starting to plan Ryzen3000 build.

[FeaR418]

So in anticipation for the Ryzen 3000 launch I am starting to peice together parts that I might be interested in. I was wondering if you had any suggestions on my list of parts that I have put together, to either increase performance, make it look nicer, or decrease price. I have a few questions regarding my parts.

 

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/user/Theonlyden/saved/HhVtgs

 

I have put in a 2600x and a x470 mobo, to approximate pricing similar to what i would spend when the 3000 series release (subject to change as this is being used as an estimate). 

 

Use Case: Primarily gaming and I want to start to stream, I have included a 250g SSD NVMe (I think..?) for my OS, a 2tb for games library, and then a 6tb for mass video storage. Are there any improvement or price adjustments that can be made here that will wont effect my user experience in a negative way?

 

Ram: 32GB, should I reduce this to 16? I tend to prefer to be ahead of the curve in RAM gb adoption as I pass my computer along to other family, also is the model of RAM i selected a good one?

Case:  H500P (would get the Gun Metal Version over the white however). I believe this has good top radiator support. One thing I am worried about regarding the case is drive bays, as I will most likely be moving a few SSDs from an older PC, however this is TBD. Any thoughts on this case overall for building in (i am an fairly inexperienced PC builder)?

 

Note: I already Own the RTX 2060 and the CPU cooler listed in here as they are in my current build and will be transferred over. I intended to OC this new build. 

 

Please let me know what you think  Overall should I make adjustments to the build?

Thanks

 

*Edit* Budget is flexible, but I am looking for around $1500 CAD if I can

[Fasauceome]

2 minutes ago, FeaR418 said:

Use Case: Primarily gaming 

Well, you won't need NVMe then. An m.2 SATA SSD is better suited for your tasks, you can spend less for the same amount or spend the same for more storage.

 

3 minutes ago, FeaR418 said:

Ram: 32GB, should I reduce this to 16? I tend to prefer to be ahead of the curve in RAM gb adoption

16GB is still a little ahead of the curve, I almost opted for 8 in my own rig.

[FeaR418]

1 minute ago, fasauceome said:

Well, you won't need NVMe then. An m.2 SATA SSD is better suited for your tasks, you can spend less for the same amount or spend the same for more storage.

 

16GB is still a little ahead of the curve, I almost opted for 8 in my own rig.

Isnt NVme worth it for OS, as it has better latency than Sata? the 2tb is SATA

[Princess Luna]

1 minute ago, FeaR418 said:

Isnt NVme worth it for OS, as it has better latency than Sata? the 2tb is SATA

A SSD is worth it for OS in comparison to a HDD.

 

NVMe is just a waste of money 95% of the time, you can still go for a M.2 standard though.

[Fasauceome]

1 minute ago, FeaR418 said:

Isnt NVme worth it for OS, as it has better latency than Sata? the 2tb is SATA

Especially for OS it makes no difference (trust me, I've got windows on my NVMe drive). It has better latency and bandwidth, but you'll only notice it when handling massive files.

[Stormseeker9]

1 minute ago, FeaR418 said:

Isnt NVme worth it for OS, as it has better latency than Sata? the 2tb is SATA

550mb/s v 3500mb/s (Samsung NVMe) 

 

personally id recommend the NVMe m.2 as Boot drive. 

[Guest]

6 minutes ago, Stormseeker9 said:

550mb/s v 3500mb/s (Samsung NVMe) 

 

personally id recommend the NVMe m.2 as Boot drive. 

That doesn't relate to actual real world performance though for something like boot times. As mentioned above it would be noticeable when moving larges files around etc.

[FeaR418]

Thoughts on the HDD, ram (corsair vengeance, not necessarily the gb but the actual brand/product line) and Case selection?

[paddy-stone]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD - Ryzen 7 2700 3.2 GHz 8-Core Processor	$309.00 @ Canada Computers
CPU Cooler	Corsair - H100i PRO 75 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler	$129.99 @ Amazon Canada
Motherboard	Gigabyte - X470 AORUS ULTRA GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard	$159.99 @ Canada Computers
Memory	G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory	$129.99 @ Newegg Canada
Storage	Crucial - MX500 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive	$87.99 @ Mike's Computer Shop
Storage	Seagate - BarraCuda 4 TB 3.5" 5900RPM Internal Hard Drive	$168.18 @ Amazon Canada
Video Card	MSI - GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB VENTUS OC Video Card	$473.99 @ Newegg Canada
Case	Cooler Master - MasterCase H500P Mesh White ATX Mid Tower Case	$169.99 @ Amazon Canada
Power Supply	Corsair - RMx (2018) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply	$109.99 @ Canada Computers
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$1759.11
	Mail-in rebates	-$20.00
	Total	$1739.11
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-03-27 13:18 EDT-0400

 

Just a couple of changes I personally would make, have upped it to a 2700 equivalent, no point in going for an x cpu if you're gonna OC anyway IMO.

Swapped for 16GB RAM.

Got rid of the 2TB SSD and swapped in a SATA m.2 drive for OS. SATA should be sufficient in this use case IMO. swapped out the 6TB for a 4TB, to be used for game and media storage. If needed I would add a 1TB ssd for games that benefit from SSD over HDD, there aren't many that benefit more than a few seconds from my understanding... and then can swap between short term storage (SSD) and long term (HDD) for games that you are actually playing.

[FeaR418]

11 minutes ago, fasauceome said:

Especially for OS it makes no difference (trust me, I've got windows on my NVMe drive). It has better latency and bandwidth, but you'll only notice it when handling massive files.

Any suggestion on a good m.2 sata model? 250ish gb

[Fasauceome]

1 minute ago, FeaR418 said:

Any suggestion on a good m.2 sata model? 250ish gb

The 850 Evo comes in an m.2 flavor, hard to knock a good Samsung drive. 

[FeaR418]

Just now, fasauceome said:

The 850 Evo comes in an m.2 flavor, hard to knock a good Samsung drive. 

Yeah i have a 2.5 version, i didnt know they made m.2's in the same. Thanks!

[NunoLava1998]

15 minutes ago, Stormseeker9 said:

550mb/s v 3500mb/s (Samsung NVMe) 

 

personally id recommend the NVMe m.2 as Boot drive. 

Not only do you pretty much not see any difference, but wHaT's A 4k sPeEd?

[FeaR418]

15 minutes ago, paddy-stone said:

Just a couple of changes I personally would make, have upped it to a 2700 equivalent, no point in going for an x cpu if you're gonna OC anyway IMO.

Got rid of the 2TB SSD and swapped in a SATA m.2 drive for OS. SATA should be sufficient in this use case IMO. swapped out the 6TB for a 4TB, to be used for game and media storage. If needed I would add a 1TB ssd for games that benefit from SSD over HDD, there aren't many that benefit more than a few seconds from my understanding... and then can swap between short term storage (SSD) and long term (HDD) for games that you are actually playing.

Good idea w the 2700 and ram equivalent, il do that.

For the storage I already have a full 3tb HDD (which i am passing along to a family member) so i need more than 4tb. I also play a large variety of games on the regular is why I had the standalone 2tb SSD for my use. Also im not a fan of swapping games between drives all the time (the cost of the 2tb SSD is worth it for me). Are there any models that could be cheaper maybe that have similar performance/size?

 

 

[paddy-stone]

4 hours ago, FeaR418 said:

Good idea w the 2700 and ram equivalent, il do that.

For the storage I already have a full 3tb HDD (which i am passing along to a family member) so i need more than 4tb. I also play a large variety of games on the regular is why I had the standalone 2tb SSD for my use. Also im not a fan of swapping games between drives all the time (the cost of the 2tb SSD is worth it for me). Are there any models that could be cheaper maybe that have similar performance/size?

 

 

Ahh I see, sorry about that, I assumed and shouldn't have... in that case, yeah they aren't that much cheaper for 2TB SSDs, they're still expensive IMO. To be honest what I would do here is go for more HDDs and have an SSD cache drive maybe, but also have the HDDs in raid 0 stripe via windows storage spaces... the HDDs would read a fair bit faster than normal then and probably wouldn't be too much slower than a regular SSD. That way you have the bigger storage space and also fairly good speeds for reading your game files from.

Up to you of course, your money and you should have it how you want

I will suggest though, that you might want to invest some of that money in a backup drive at the very least... if something goes wrong it'd take a long time to re-install and download everything for sure, no matter which way you decide to go with the config.