So my pc is acting up once again

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1 minute ago, TheThymo said:

apparantly i already had disabled sleep mode, and when i do it manually everything works fine.

Okay a question, when the PC fails to turn on, is the light on the motherboard still on? (assuming you wait a little bit before trying to turn the PC back on by flipping the switch)

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@TheThymo

Okay i just realized that at the start of your video that's how you came back to the PC, Fans are on, lights are on, everything is on, just that there's no display?

[thinwalrus]

Win 10 fast start up on or off? Turn it off and see if it helps.

[TMobile]

6 minutes ago, _Syn_ said:

Okay a question, when the PC fails to turn on, is the light on the motherboard still on? (assuming you wait a little bit before trying to turn the PC back on by flipping the switch)

I think it is visible in the video, when i try to turn on the pc (using the power button) it would not work before the powerbrick was switched off. After the mobo light went off fully (no more green fading), i flipped on the powerbrick, and my pc worked again

[TMobile]

7 minutes ago, _Syn_ said:

@TheThymo

Okay i just realized that at the start of your video that's how you came back to the PC, Fans are on, lights are on, everything is on, just that there's no display?

Yes, also mouse and keyboard gove no response (as you can see) and the keyboard lights are off but mouse lights on

[TMobile]

10 minutes ago, thinwalrus said:

Win 10 fast start up on or off? Turn it off and see if it helps.

I have now turned it off, i will do some stuff not on my pc to see what happens.

[thinwalrus]

1 minute ago, TheThymo said:

I have now turned it off, i will do some stuff not on my pc to see what happens.

My pc sometimes lost dp-connected monitor with the fast start up on. Had to always use the real on/off rocker switch on monitor to get it to recognize it.

[TMobile]

1 minute ago, thinwalrus said:

My pc sometimes lost dp-connected monitor with the fast start up on. Had to always use the real on/off rocker switch on monitor to get it to recognize it.

Well, my complete pc crashes, so maybe it is the sollution, maybe it isnt

[thinwalrus]

1 minute ago, TheThymo said:

Well, my complete pc crashes, so maybe it is the sollution, maybe it isnt

Its hard to see what happens on that video. Did it do that while it was on or on startup? If its on start up and no picture it could be the same thing with monitor that I had. Pc booted up just fine and picture was showing on tv but I was not smart enough to check it before wasting an hour 

[TMobile]

1 minute ago, thinwalrus said:

Its hard to see what happens on that video. Did it do that while it was on or on startup? If its on start up and no picture it could be the same thing with monitor that I had. Pc booted up just fine and picture was showing on tv but I was not smart enough to check it before wasting an hour 

My pc was working perfectly fine before this happened. I left for food and this is what i found

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23 minutes ago, TheThymo said:

Yes, also mouse and keyboard gove no response (as you can see) and the keyboard lights are off but mouse lights on

really sorry I completely missed what was really going on in the video, I'm thinking of other things, that's a totally different story if the fans are on (different to how i troubleshoot it atleast)

It could be RAM, Motherboard or CPU

 

First of all let's tackle the keyboard having no light, does your keyboard turn its light off when unused after a while? not related to the PC being in sleep mode, just related to you not pressing any buttons on the keyboard, meaning the keyboard has a "power save" mode the same as your monitor.

if that's the case then the unresponsiveness is narrowed down to CPU, RAM, Motherboard, meaning it could be an unstable CPU, Unstable RAM, or a defective motherboard.

If your keyboards lights are off and that's an unusual behavior then it's more narrowed down to Motherboard, but CPU and RAM "can" be included but i think that's a rare scenario, Motherboard defective (again)
 

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wait no i wanna edit that a bit

[Eastman51]

35 minutes ago, TheThymo said:

sleep was already disabled (im finding out allot i already tried lol), powerplan is ryzen balanced.

What if its because the display turns off (say after 15 minutes) of inactivity?

[TMobile]

4 minutes ago, Eastman51 said:

What if its because the display turns off (say after 15 minutes) of inactivity?

Then it should wake when i do anything, for whatevers sake i have turned that to never as well now.

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Man i'm confusing myself even more, there's not enough information, i think it's best to leave this at "you need more hardware to switch around to find the culprit"

[TMobile]

Just now, _Syn_ said:

Man i'm confusing myself even more, there's not enough information, i think it's best to leave this at "you need more hardware to switch around to find the culprit"

the damn problem is, i cannot find a way to force the crash, so that would mean i have to sit at and around my pc for possibly days, I just don't have that time. I'd like to add that I feel like it has to do with software, the problem might only occur when the pc is not being used.

[Eastman51]

Just now, _Syn_ said:

Man i'm confusing myself even more, there's not enough information, i think it's best to leave this at "you need more hardware to switch around to find the culprit"

I agree. At this point, I'd try a different display and/or different display cable. I would also try different RAM or different RAM configs. Possibly a Windows reinstall, or clean install on another drive for testing purposes. CPU swap and motherboard swap as a last resort.

[Eastman51]

Just now, TheThymo said:

the damn problem is, i cannot find a way to force the crash, so that would mean i have to sit at and around my pc for possibly days, I just don't have that time. I'd like to add that I feel like it has to do with software, the problem might only occur when the pc is not being used.

Look in Event Viewer as soon as you get back into Windows, you might be able to see what process or error is causing it.

[TMobile]

10 minutes ago, _Syn_ said:

really sorry I completely missed what was really going on in the video, I'm thinking of other things, that's a totally different story if the fans are on (different to how i troubleshoot it atleast)

It could be RAM, Motherboard or CPU

 

First of all let's tackle the keyboard having no light, does your keyboard turn its light off when unused after a while? not related to the PC being in sleep mode, just related to you not pressing any buttons on the keyboard, meaning the keyboard has a "power save" mode the same as your monitor.

if that's the case then the unresponsiveness is narrowed down to CPU, RAM, Motherboard, meaning it could be an unstable CPU, Unstable RAM, or a defective motherboard.

If your keyboards lights are off and that's an unusual behavior then it's more narrowed down to Motherboard, but CPU and RAM "can" be included but i think that's a rare scenario, Motherboard defective (again)
 

ok, so the keyboard has only the lights turned off when the pc is in sleep or turned off. however when i manually put the pc to sleep only my ram lights stay on. as you can see on the video, everything is still bright and blue.

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1 minute ago, TheThymo said:

the damn problem is, i cannot find a way to force the crash, so that would mean i have to sit at and around my pc for possibly days, I just don't have that time. I'd like to add that I feel like it has to do with software, the problem might only occur when the pc is not being used.

best advice i can give right now is to set the "display turns off after inactivity" to 1 minute or whatever you like, and then see if that's the issue.

other than that I can't really know what's going on, you need more hardware to test, or reformat windows and stuff

[TMobile]

2 minutes ago, Eastman51 said:

I agree. At this point, I'd try a different display and/or different display cable. I would also try different RAM or different RAM configs. Possibly a Windows reinstall, or clean install on another drive for testing purposes. CPU swap and motherboard swap as a last resort.

You know what, ill just get a r7 3700, new ram and a new mobo in a few months. might even go for some aio.

[TMobile]

2 minutes ago, Eastman51 said:

Look in Event Viewer as soon as you get back into Windows, you might be able to see what process or error is causing it.

it says kernel power error, with the time i fliped the psu switch, no other critical or errors or anything that have to do with crashing.

[Eastman51]

Just now, TheThymo said:

it says kernel power error, with the time i fliped the psu switch, no other critical or errors or anything that have to do with crashing.

Hmmmmm, it said the same thing when I had AI Suite do this to me.... 

 

Have you tried a BIOS upgrade and/or downgrade/reflash yet?

[TMobile]

3 minutes ago, _Syn_ said:

best advice i can give right now is to set the "display turns off after inactivity" to 1 minute or whatever you like, and then see if that's the issue.

other than that I can't really know what's going on, you need more hardware to test, or reformat windows and stuff

just did this, screen turned off and all, pressed spacebar, and everything just worked.

[thinwalrus]

18 minutes ago, TheThymo said:

My pc was working perfectly fine before this happened. I left for food and this is what i found

Did the pc go to sleep? Or is it just the monitor? Next time you face this, try re-plugging the display power cord if it has no "hard" switch on it. Display port is a real piece of shit sometimes.