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Ryzen 2700x + B350 Mobo

So i recently purchased the 2700x because i cant wait for 3rd gen to come out. 
It is combined with my PC mate b350 ( Will get upgraded when 570 comes out) 
Im able to achive a stable OC of 4.2ghz at 1.3875v (Havnt tested lower yet) 
But if i increase it to 4.3 at 1.4 or 1.45 it freezes the PC instantly when stress testing or 

using cinebench.  Do you think its most likely to be the board not being able to OC it further

or that i havnt won the sillicone lottery?

PC Specs

Ryzen 7 - 2700x - 4.2 Ghz 

MSI MPG X570s Carbon Max Wifi 

Thermaltake Water 3.0 360mm ARGB Sync TT Premium

G.Skillz Trident Z 3200mhz CL16

Gigabyte RTX 2060 Aorus Xtreme

Samsung Evo 970 - 256 GB

OCZ Agility - 256 GB

Western Digital - 1 TB

Corsair RM750x - 750W Gold

 

 

 

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you use a office grade board to overclock a high end chip

 

what do you expect? you need a better board

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I'm surprised this low end motherboard achieved 4.2ghz all cores under 1.4v already, I'd say you're at profit here.

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If you check people with 2700X going past 4.2GHz, all of them use high end X370/X470 boards. I don't feel safe with B350 board and overclocked 2700X either, most of these boards are just too cheap to have overtemperature shutdown feature

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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12 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

you use a office grade board to overclock a high end chip

 

what do you expect? you need a better board

Yeah i know i need a better board. Just dont wanna buy a new one when X570 comes out soon. 
I wouldnt exactly call it office grade though. I would say mid tier gaming :P

9 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

I'm surprised this low end motherboard achieved 4.2ghz all cores under 1.4v already, I'd say you're at profit here.

My 1500x wasnt as lucky. It could only go 3.9ghz at 1.42v.
But so my assumption is correct. The board is most likely the cause of it. 

 

8 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

If you check people with 2700X going past 4.2GHz, all of them use high end X370/X470 boards. I don't feel safe with B350 board and overclocked 2700X either, most of these boards are just too cheap to have overtemperature shutdown feature

Well board temps during full load was around 50c. 
Havnt had a problem with the board at all, other than it is impossible to OC my memory might also be caused by cheap memory idk. :P

PC Specs

Ryzen 7 - 2700x - 4.2 Ghz 

MSI MPG X570s Carbon Max Wifi 

Thermaltake Water 3.0 360mm ARGB Sync TT Premium

G.Skillz Trident Z 3200mhz CL16

Gigabyte RTX 2060 Aorus Xtreme

Samsung Evo 970 - 256 GB

OCZ Agility - 256 GB

Western Digital - 1 TB

Corsair RM750x - 750W Gold

 

 

 

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26 minutes ago, Koxicain said:

Well board temps during full load was around 50c. 

Considering even the best boards get 80C VRM temperature on an open test bench, I can confidently say your board indeed doesnt have OTP and will happily run itself to death

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

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Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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2 hours ago, Jurrunio said:

Considering even the best boards get 80C VRM temperature on an open test bench, I can confidently say your board indeed doesnt have OTP and will happily run itself to death

OTP ? :D
I will do some more testing tonight :D

PC Specs

Ryzen 7 - 2700x - 4.2 Ghz 

MSI MPG X570s Carbon Max Wifi 

Thermaltake Water 3.0 360mm ARGB Sync TT Premium

G.Skillz Trident Z 3200mhz CL16

Gigabyte RTX 2060 Aorus Xtreme

Samsung Evo 970 - 256 GB

OCZ Agility - 256 GB

Western Digital - 1 TB

Corsair RM750x - 750W Gold

 

 

 

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On 3/11/2019 at 6:20 PM, Jurrunio said:

If you check people with 2700X going past 4.2GHz, all of them use high end X370/X470 boards. I don't feel safe with B350 board and overclocked 2700X either, most of these boards are just too cheap to have overtemperature shutdown feature

But tbh. Everytime i go above 4.2 it will just freeze when benchmarking. I have never had an overheating shutdown ever. 
Not even on my 1500x 3.9ghz at 1.45v with the temps around 60-70 stock cooling. That is now all changed since i got the 2700x and Thermaltakes 360mm AIO. Did a Prime95 test for 30 minutes highest recorded temps was 65c under the 12k test i believe. Otherwise it would stay around 50-55. The Thermaltake fans are really powerfull so i currently have 4 exhaust fans and 3 intake ( On the radiator )

PC Specs

Ryzen 7 - 2700x - 4.2 Ghz 

MSI MPG X570s Carbon Max Wifi 

Thermaltake Water 3.0 360mm ARGB Sync TT Premium

G.Skillz Trident Z 3200mhz CL16

Gigabyte RTX 2060 Aorus Xtreme

Samsung Evo 970 - 256 GB

OCZ Agility - 256 GB

Western Digital - 1 TB

Corsair RM750x - 750W Gold

 

 

 

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On 3/11/2019 at 6:58 PM, Jurrunio said:

Considering even the best boards get 80C VRM temperature on an open test bench, I can confidently say your board indeed doesnt have OTP and will happily run itself to death

So i've done some more testing. 
Board temps are at 60 and peaks for a short time at 65. on full load.

PC Specs

Ryzen 7 - 2700x - 4.2 Ghz 

MSI MPG X570s Carbon Max Wifi 

Thermaltake Water 3.0 360mm ARGB Sync TT Premium

G.Skillz Trident Z 3200mhz CL16

Gigabyte RTX 2060 Aorus Xtreme

Samsung Evo 970 - 256 GB

OCZ Agility - 256 GB

Western Digital - 1 TB

Corsair RM750x - 750W Gold

 

 

 

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Ryzen doesn’t overclock that good,it’s not a secret and your using a pretty unreliable overclocking motherboard. 

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8 hours ago, Koxicain said:

So i've done some more testing. 
Board temps are at 60 and peaks for a short time at 65. on full load.

not surprised on a board without vrm temperature sensing

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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On 3/15/2019 at 8:12 AM, Koxicain said:

So i've done some more testing. 
Board temps are at 60 and peaks for a short time at 65. on full load.

How are you determining those temps?

On my B350m Pro4 (arguably a budget/midrange board), with a 1600X clocking 4.1GHz @ 1.41v, it's drawing about 115W on average. With decent airflow from a 140mm tower flowing directly over the VRM heatsink the top surface (the coolest point) is still 60C, enough to burn you if you touch it for an extended period of time. The chokes sat in the mid 70s, and the caps peaked at a toasty 85C. The actual VRM phases averaged 75C, with peaks in the low 80s. I personally find it hard to believe that a 2700X would have VRM temps in the 60s, unless it was drawing under 100W? Or maybe you have a ridiculously overbuilt B series board :P 

 

Temps were taken with a thermocouple and verified with a digital IR thermometer, maybe +/- 5C?

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20 hours ago, ShadowChaser said:

How are you determining those temps?

On my B350m Pro4 (arguably a budget/midrange board), with a 1600X clocking 4.1GHz @ 1.41v, it's drawing about 115W on average. With decent airflow from a 140mm tower flowing directly over the VRM heatsink the top surface (the coolest point) is still 60C, enough to burn you if you touch it for an extended period of time. The chokes sat in the mid 70s, and the caps peaked at a toasty 85C. The actual VRM phases averaged 75C, with peaks in the low 80s. I personally find it hard to believe that a 2700X would have VRM temps in the 60s, unless it was drawing under 100W? Or maybe you have a ridiculously overbuilt B series board :P 

 

Temps were taken with a thermocouple and verified with a digital IR thermometer, maybe +/- 5C?

The only way i can :) Those are peak temps though
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PC Specs

Ryzen 7 - 2700x - 4.2 Ghz 

MSI MPG X570s Carbon Max Wifi 

Thermaltake Water 3.0 360mm ARGB Sync TT Premium

G.Skillz Trident Z 3200mhz CL16

Gigabyte RTX 2060 Aorus Xtreme

Samsung Evo 970 - 256 GB

OCZ Agility - 256 GB

Western Digital - 1 TB

Corsair RM750x - 750W Gold

 

 

 

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