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Which System Will Yield More Money When Time To Sell? 1080 ti/2080..

ch3w2oy
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Just some blah blah fluff and rant before getting to the point, if you want to get right to it drop down to cliff notes.. 

 

So maybe some of you know from my previous thread(s), I'm selling, or parting out a good bit of my current system (processor, mobo, NVME, GPU, etc..). I'm doing it now so I don't take a larger loss later.. Which I might end up doing anyway but whatever.. 

 

My plan was and still is to upgrade to Zen 2 as my primary computer, probably after prices settle sometime toward the end of the year. Maybe black Friday will bring some good deals. 

 

In the mean time I've decided to build an 8700k/z370 system as I found a great deal that's almost to good to pass up. I enjoy overclocking and have learned that Intel is more challenging (at this time) and I'm looking forward to it. Another reason for this decision is that Intel and Nvidia systems seems to sell like hot cakes compared to AMD. Especially for beginners/people just getting into and/or aren't familiar with gaming, they see "Intel" and "Invidia" in recommended specs and then.. Well, you know the story.. Might not even sell it, though.. 

 

So.. My delimma now is should I get a good used GTX 1080 ti with warranty or an RTX 2080? For arguments sake, let's say the 2080 I'm looking at is $50 to $100 more than the 1080 ti.

 

Which card combined with the 8700k system will sell better? I know it's hard to judge but just looking for some thoughts.. I've also seen the threads talking about DLSS and what not.. But Its hard to deny the 2080s raw performance, plus it's like a bandwagon people literally just hop on because it's new, and well, it's Invidia.. 

 

Now, let's take Invidias giant cock out of my mouth.. 

 

The reason I ask this is because I might consider selling the system so I can build an all AMD build, probably at the end of the year, maybe early 2020.. If we ever get new GPUs.. I think their new processors will be great and while it may not be much of an upgrade over the 8700k, that's not the only reason for doing it. This may also just become my secondary/gaming system.. 

 

Cliff notes.. 

I am building an 8700k system and want to know which card between the 1080 ti and 2080 will make a better sell for entire system later this year, maybe early 2020? I don't care about taking a loss, only interested in what might sell better/higher.. The 2080 might only cost Me between $50 and $100 more than the 1080 ti. It's also worth noting again that I may keep this system for the living room or just gaming computer.. I really can't decide which card to get myself.. I personally play CSGO, Apex Legends, Ring of Elysium, and Rainbow Six Seige more than anything.

 

Thanks for any feedback or input, as always, it's much appreciated!

 

Just a shout out to a few that's helped in the past..

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For resale the RTX probably will have more appeal, imo

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Depends as the next gen of RTX cards will probably use 3rd gen of Tensorcores which would make this current gen obsolete. Another reason to not get them right now and 4th gen of TPUs is set to release this year or 2020. 

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Oh are you still looking for RX 570 for $200 or less?

 

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ah, i see you need me again

 

if rt and dlss becomes something, the 2080 will probably have a better resale value, but just looking at raw power they're equivalent(ish). and for 100 dollars more i would rather take a brand new unit with longer driver support, newer features, things like that

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The newer rtx card will have better value if want to sell it letter on.The newer feature of the rtx card will make it hold it price better for sure.

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18 minutes ago, Plutosaurus said:

For resale the RTX probably will have more appeal, imo

That's what I was thinking.. But I keep getting hung up on the name 2080. Everyone knows the 1080 ti was the best.. Even I feel like 8700k/1080 ti sounds better than 8700k/2080.. But I know RTX/DLSS is a joke.. At least for now and probably for this entire generation.. Most people might not, though.. I personally don't mind either if I keep it but if AMD releases something good in the next year I would like to switch.. 

 

4 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

ah, i see you need me again

 

if rt and dlss becomes something, the 2080 will probably have a better resale value, but just looking at raw power they're equivalent(ish). and for 100 dollars more i would rather take a brand new unit with longer driver support, newer features, things like that

This definitely makes sense. If it takes off then it will be great.. But then there's this argument.. 

 

3 minutes ago, schwellmo92 said:

1080 Ti has same performance but more VRAM, there's always that argument.

This is why I like the 1080 ti, right now I play at 4k and some games take well over 8gb, contrary to popular belief, I've seen it myself. I think advertising the PC as a 4k machine with the 1080 ti is a little more beneficial, but so is trace racing and DLSS.. So I'm at a loss here.. 

 

6 minutes ago, BuckGup said:

Depends as the next gen of RTX cards will probably use 3rd gen of Tensorcores which would make this current gen obsolete. Another reason to not get them right now and 4th gen of TPUs is set to release this year or 2020. 

Exactly. But most people are not tech savvy enough to know.. They just fall for invidias marketing.. 

 

2 minutes ago, nhatduy1611 said:

The newer rtx card will have better value if want to sell it letter on.The newer feature of the rtx card will make it hold it price better for sure.

I agree for the most part..

 

8 minutes ago, Plutosaurus said:

Oh are you still looking for RX 570 for $200 or less?

Thanks but I just ordered one of eBay.. I need to update my sig lol. 

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4 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

i mean, in that way a vega vii would be the best investment...

That's what I want and am considering it, I can get one for 760. The problem with this is if AMD comes out with some good stuff in a year the resale on that will be crap compared to Invidia.. I am going to do a full AMD build for myself at the end of the year maybe early 2020..

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21 minutes ago, ch3w2oy said:

That's what I want and am considering it, I can get one for 760. The problem with this is if AMD comes out with some good stuff in a year the resale on that will be crap compared to Invidia.. I am going to do a full AMD build for myself at the end of the year maybe early 2020..

I would be more concerned with Intel entering the market next year. They have already proven they can make some pretty fast graphics that are integrated into a SoC with tiny power requirements like 15W-45W. Now imagine that scaled to 300Ws, custom power delivery, and so on. Especially the server market I see Nvidia in trouble

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4 minutes ago, BuckGup said:

I would be more concerned with Intel entering the market next year. They have already proven they can make some pretty fast graphics that are integrated into a SoC with tiny power requirements like 15W-45W. Now imagine that scaled to 300Ws, custom power delivery, and so on. Especially the server market I see Nvidia in trouble

i mean, then they can take some share back from amd there... epyc did quite well

 

28 minutes ago, ch3w2oy said:

That's what I want and am considering it, I can get one for 760. The problem with this is if AMD comes out with some good stuff in a year the resale on that will be crap compared to Invidia.. I am going to do a full AMD build for myself at the end of the year maybe early 2020..

yeah, i mean, this might come to use then

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3 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

i mean, then they can take some share back from amd there... epyc did quite well

 

Not really as EPYC is a CPU and this would be a GPU. Intel GPUs should work with EPYC. Most HPCs focused on GPU use don't really care what CPU they use. They just need one to handle 16 GPUs at once.

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34 minutes ago, BuckGup said:

Not really as EPYC is a CPU and this would be a GPU. Intel GPUs should work with EPYC. Most HPCs focused on GPU use don't really care what CPU they use. They just need one to handle 16 GPUs at once.

i didn't meant it in that way

 

epyc took quite some market share from xeon, so they might take over amd in the gpu part

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I just want more competition. Nvidia cards are priced like complete shit. Like Intel processors. They all need to push each other so we can win as consumers.

 

 

Ohhhhh and Vega 64 Nitro+ is $419 on Newegg. Now there's a fucking deal that competes with the 2070 when handled correctly. Plus 3 games so $350 for a card that beats the 2060 and 1080 is pretty damn good. 

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1 minute ago, ch3w2oy said:

@LukeSavenije @BuckGup

 

I just want more competition. Nvidia cards are priced like complete shit. Like Intel processors. They all need to push each other so we can win as consumers.

 

 

Ohhhhh and Vega 64 Nitro+ is $419 on Newegg. Now there's a fucking deal that competes with the 2070 when handled correctly. Plus 3 games so $350 for a card that beats the 2060 and 1080 is pretty damn good. 

Also power mod and it turns into a 2080

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41 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

i didn't meant it in that way

 

epyc took quite some market share from xeon, so they might take over amd in the gpu part

AMD has basically no market share for GPUs. Every HPC for neural networks are using Teslas

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