RTX Titan vs Custom PCB 2080 ti

[A Lini]

I am building a very high end watercooled computer without much of a budget that I want to overclock to get the best performance for a fessable system, so I was wondering if I should get something like the EVGA FTW 3, ASUS STRIX/MATRIX, MSI Lightning, etc, or an RTX Titan for maximum gaming performance and maybe some light video editing/heavy photo editing.

[Jurrunio]

If overclocking is everything and worsening price to performance ratio further isn't a problem, then get the RTX Titan. Otherwise reference PCB 2080ti cards are the best choice, the PCB is plenty strong already

[Brooksie359]

I would get 2x 2080tis tbh instead of titan. 

[TahoeDust]

Titan is the faster card.

[Xkillerpn]

Just as an advice wait for the radeon 7 to see whats in there maybe it will be a surprize or not. On your problem Titan will be a faster card under water, the only card that can be maybe faster is the kingpin or the msi lightning because of the power headroom they have.

[jasonvp]

The challenges you're going to run into are:

• power
• lottery

The Titan's VBIOS hasn't been cracked yet (and likely won't be), so its power limits are as is from the factory.  You can crank the power up in Precision or Afterburner, but that's it.  The custom 2080Ti cards are a different story.  They do have fewer CUDA cores and a lower OEM boost clock than the Titan.  But the big difference is that some of them have custom VBIOSs as well, which allow more power than the NVidia FE cards do.  Obviously, more power in means more heat; but you're taking care of that with the water cooling.  So at that point you're gambling with the lottery insofar as: can you get a 2080Ti GPU that will run happily at over 2.1GHz and stay there?  I don't think you'll get a Titan to run that high and stay there, even with water.

 

Really tough one to call.

[Kalm_Traveler]

57 minutes ago, jasonvp said:

The challenges you're going to run into are:

• power
• lottery

The Titan's VBIOS hasn't been cracked yet (and likely won't be), so its power limits are as is from the factory.  You can crank the power up in Precision or Afterburner, but that's it.  The custom 2080Ti cards are a different story.  They do have fewer CUDA cores and a lower OEM boost clock than the Titan.  But the big difference is that some of them have custom VBIOSs as well, which allow more power than the NVidia FE cards do.  Obviously, more power in means more heat; but you're taking care of that with the water cooling.  So at that point you're gambling with the lottery insofar as: can you get a 2080Ti GPU that will run happily at over 2.1GHz and stay there?  I don't think you'll get a Titan to run that high and stay there, even with water.

 

Really tough one to call.

This gives a pretty good idea of RTX 2080Ti vs Titan RTX debate: https://www.3dmark.com/hall-of-fame-2/port+royal+3dmark+score+performance+preset/version+1.0

 

I don't own any 2080 Ti cards, but can offer that the only way to squeeze more juice out of the Titan is power modding (I swapped both PCI-E input shunt resistors on both of my cards from the stock 5MO to 3MO and have an effective TDP limit of ~ 430 watts). 

 

From what I'm seeing on oc net, it looks like some of the higher-end AIB partner 2080 Ti models will overclock better than a Titan RTX, partly due to having beefier power delivery (3 8-pin input connectors instead of only 2), and also having higher TDP BIOS options before any further power modding is even considered.

 

That being said... in my 9900k rig (currently has a Titan V), I'm still probably going to upgrade it to the Titan RTX because it's more powerful out of the box.

[A Lini]

1 hour ago, Xkillerpn said:

Just as an advice wait for the radeon 7 to see whats in there maybe it will be a surprize or not.

I might do that because I do want to support AMD, but for now nVidia is the only option for super high end

[A Lini]

1 hour ago, Brooksie359 said:

I would get 2x 2080tis tbh instead of titan. 

I'm planning to upgrade from 1 cards to 2 cards so if I bought 2 2080 TIs  and they wern't as good I would need to get 2 RTX TItans when I want to upgrade 

[Brooksie359]

2 hours ago, A Lini said:

I'm planning to upgrade from 1 cards to 2 cards so if I bought 2 2080 TIs  and they wern't as good I would need to get 2 RTX TItans when I want to upgrade 

I would just get 2 2080tis and wait for the next generation of cards to come out before upgrading. The difference between the titan and the 2080ti is so small I can almost guarantee you couldn't tell the difference in a blind test. 

[A Lini]

22 hours ago, Brooksie359 said:

I would just get 2 2080tis and wait for the next generation of cards to come out before upgrading. The difference between the titan and the 2080ti is so small I can almost guarantee you couldn't tell the difference in a blind test. 

yea but SLI isn't supported on most things and can be a little tricky so I would want to get into that later in my pc building journy, also custom PCB 2080 TIs cost like 1600 so it would be 3200 for 2.

[Brooksie359]

18 hours ago, A Lini said:

yea but SLI isn't supported on most things and can be a little tricky so I would want to get into that later in my pc building journy, also custom PCB 2080 TIs cost like 1600 so it would be 3200 for 2.

Damn they must have jumped in price then I guess. I got mine for 1200 at release. Just be aware you are paying about 2x the price for a very small increace in performance. From the benchmarks I saw it was anywhere from 1 to 5% 

[A Lini]

10 hours ago, Brooksie359 said:

Damn they must have jumped in price then I guess. I got mine for 1200 at release.

you can still get founders editions and other ones at 1200-1300 but cards like the FTW3 can cost in the 1500-1700 range. 

[Brooksie359]

14 hours ago, A Lini said:

you can still get founders editions and other ones at 1200-1300 but cards like the FTW3 can cost in the 1500-1700 range. 

It was the msi trio

[A Lini]

1 hour ago, Brooksie359 said:

It was the msi trio

Really I just recently started looking into this so I guess they did go up in price

[IceCold008]

Google 2080ti verus RTX Titan. Yea the titan is only just faster than the 2080ti in some games. But the price increase over the 2080ti is ridiculous tbh. Hey the price of 2080ti is also ridiculous lol. But looking at your post your the sort of person which dont care about the price so getting an titan might be your best bet.