Upgrading Gaming Rig... Need Advice

[BootieShortsss]

Currently I am using 4th gen i5-4670k (OC to 4GHz), ASRock Z87 Extreme 6, 16GB DDR3 RAM, and an Nvidia gtx1080 FTW2.  

 

The 1080 is extremely bottlenecked by the i5, and the processor runs at 100% at all times while gaming.  

 

The parts I am planning on upgrading are the MB, CPU and RAM.  I plan on getting an Intel Core i7-8700K Coffee Lake 6-Core 3.7 GHz, G.SKILL TridentZ SDRAM DDR4 3200 (PC4 25600), and ASRock Z370 Killer SLI/ac LGA 1151 (300 Series).

 

Will the new parts work well together?  Are there parts that would work better?  I'd just like peace of mind in buying new parts, and would like any recommendations.  

[Taf the Ghost]

3 minutes ago, BootieShortsss said:

Currently I am using 4th gen i5-4670k (OC to 4GHz), ASRock Z87 Extreme 6, 16GB DDR3 RAM, and an Nvidia gtx1080 FTW2.  

 

The 1080 is extremely bottlenecked by the i5, and the processor runs at 100% at all times while gaming.  

 

The parts I am planning on upgrading are the MB, CPU and RAM.  I plan on getting an Intel Core i7-8700K Coffee Lake 6-Core 3.7 GHz, G.SKILL TridentZ SDRAM DDR4 3200 (PC4 25600), and ASRock Z370 Killer SLI/ac LGA 1151 (300 Series).

 

Will the new parts work well together?  Are there parts that would work better?  I'd just like peace of mind in buying new parts, and would like any recommendations.  

Firstly, welcome! On the assumption this isn't a spammer account.

 

What games are you playing that you're running into bottleneck issues? There should only be a few that do. Next, what monitor do you have, as that combo should hit 60 FPS in everything.

 

As for the combo, you could list the PCPartPicker. It just makes it easier, but they'll work fine together. Unless you plan to do a high-OC, then that's potentially a different issue.

[BootieShortsss]

The games that run into the bottleneck issue are: Rainbow Six Siege, Battlefield 5, Ark (Worst Bottleneck) and Rocket League.  I have a 165Hz (OC) Monitor with G-Sync from Acer.  I have always played games at least at 144Hz, and the combo ran alright for a while, but within the last month and a half or so has stopped working well at all.  I've run a bottleneck calculator and it has a high bottleneck.  I've also run the ASUS ROG benchmark (don't remember the actual name of the benchmark), and the CPU performed very poorly.

[Taf the Ghost]

8 minutes ago, BootieShortsss said:

The games that run into the bottleneck issue are: Rainbow Six Siege, Battlefield 5, Ark (Worst Bottleneck) and Rocket League.  I have a 165Hz (OC) Monitor with G-Sync from Acer.  I have always played games at least at 144Hz, and the combo ran alright for a while, but within the last month and a half or so has stopped working well at all.  I've run a bottleneck calculator and it has a high bottleneck.  I've also run the ASUS ROG benchmark (don't remember the actual name of the benchmark), and the CPU performed very poorly.

Ark barely works on most systems. RL and Siege shouldn't have issues, which points to other potential problems.

[BootieShortsss]

The CPU runs a constant 100% when gaming, but temps remain around 30-35C.  I can tell there is micro-stuttering in most games.  I thought the issue could have been components, but I tried a buddy's MB, CPU and RAM and the issue remained the same. 

 

With research I have done, most everyone that uses the i5-4670k with the same graphics card experience the same issues.   

[LukeSavenije]

27 minutes ago, BootieShortsss said:

Currently I am using 4th gen i5-4670k (OC to 4GHz), ASRock Z87 Extreme 6, 16GB DDR3 RAM, and an Nvidia gtx1080 FTW2.  

 

The 1080 is extremely bottlenecked by the i5, and the processor runs at 100% at all times while gaming.  

 

The parts I am planning on upgrading are the MB, CPU and RAM.  I plan on getting an Intel Core i7-8700K Coffee Lake 6-Core 3.7 GHz, G.SKILL TridentZ SDRAM DDR4 3200 (PC4 25600), and ASRock Z370 Killer SLI/ac LGA 1151 (300 Series).

 

Will the new parts work well together?  Are there parts that would work better?  I'd just like peace of mind in buying new parts, and would like any recommendations.  

swap away that motherboard... it's one of the less quality asrock boards. extreme4 is much better on z390, but I also suggest you look up z390 aorus boards, as they are absolutly king of z390

[Taf the Ghost]

4 minutes ago, BootieShortsss said:

The CPU runs a constant 100% when gaming, but temps remain around 30-35C.  I can tell there is micro-stuttering in most games.  I thought the issue could have been components, but I tried a buddy's MB, CPU and RAM and the issue remained the same. 

 

With research I have done, most everyone that uses the i5-4670k with the same graphics card experience the same issues.   

If it's gotten worse over time, I'd be looking at OS or Storage. Are you on an SSD? You might be having issues calling the data as much as anything else.

 

This isn't to dissuade from upgrading. It'll be a solid upgrade. Just saying this seems more like a troubleshooting issue.

[Dedayog]

5 minutes ago, BootieShortsss said:

The CPU runs a constant 100% when gaming, but temps remain around 30-35C.  I can tell there is micro-stuttering in most games.  I thought the issue could have been components, but I tried a buddy's MB, CPU and RAM and the issue remained the same. 

 

With research I have done, most everyone that uses the i5-4670k with the same graphics card experience the same issues.   

100% usage at 30-35c?  Not quite possible.

 

The 4670K can hit 4.4GHz+ so you have room to OC it more if you wanted to.  Are you using 1080p or 1440p reso?  I'd up it to 1440p if you aren't yet.

 

That said, the 8700K is a great chip and good deals are usually found at Microcenter and bundled.

[BootieShortsss]

1 minute ago, Taf the Ghost said:

If it's gotten worse over time, I'd be looking at OS or Storage. Are you on an SSD? You might be having issues calling the data as much as anything else.

 

This isn't to dissuade from upgrading. It'll be a solid upgrade. Just saying this seems more like a troubleshooting issue.

A couple weeks ago, I did a fresh install of Windows 10, and formatted all drives.  

[LukeSavenije]

Just now, jstudrawa said:

I'd up it to 1440p if you aren't yet

may I debunk that myth? resolution doesn't make it easer for the cpu, just harder for the gpu

[Dedayog]

Just now, BootieShortsss said:

A couple weeks ago, I did a fresh install of Windows 10, and formatted all drives.  

If you tried a friends stuff, and the issue remains... then it's not your CPU that;s the issue.  It's the common denominator items.

[Dedayog]

Just now, LukeSavenije said:

may I debunk that myth? resolution doesn't make it easer for the cpu, just harder for the gpu

Oh there is no myth, you're right.  It would just bring it all in line, even the playing field and get more use out of that GPU.

[Taf the Ghost]

3 minutes ago, BootieShortsss said:

A couple weeks ago, I did a fresh install of Windows 10, and formatted all drives.  

I'd get a new OS drive. There's some deals for the Crucial MX500 500gb on today, I'd grab one of those. That's what I'd upgrade first, see how things are, then upgrade from there. It's still probably time for an upgrade, but something seems wrong with your setup having problems.

 

Could also be the GPU.

[BootieShortsss]

8 minutes ago, Taf the Ghost said:

I'd get a new OS drive. There's some deals for the Crucial MX500 500gb on today, I'd grab one of those. That's what I'd upgrade first, see how things are, then upgrade from there. It's still probably time for an upgrade, but something seems wrong with your setup having problems.

 

Could also be the GPU.

I REALLY hope is not the gpu.  In the benchmark test, it had really high results.  I have a couple other SSD's that I could try as a boot drive.  The newest Samsung SSD line would not let me select it as a boot drive no matter how hard I tried, though.

[Taf the Ghost]

7 minutes ago, BootieShortsss said:

I REALLY hope is not the gpu.  In the benchmark test, it had really high results.  I have a couple other SSD's that I could try as a boot drive.  The newest Samsung SSD line would not let me select it as a boot drive no matter how hard I tried, though.

Some of the 3D Mark tests will leverage almost wholly the GPU. I'd play around with those. It could be as simple as you need to clean your GPU's fan out.

 

Not sure why the SSD wouldn't select. Update the BIOS? Some odd BIOS setting because it's a 6 GB/s connection? 

 

It's still a solid upgrade if you're going to pull the trigger. And, frankly, if you're having that many issues with the board, it'd probably time to just do it. See @LukeSavenije point about MB choices, though.

[LukeSavenije]

1 minute ago, Taf the Ghost said:

It's still a solid upgrade if you're going to pull the trigger. And, frankly, if you're having that many issues with the board, it'd probably time to just do it. See @LukeSavenije point about MB choices, though.

and I'm more than willing to help with it.

[BootieShortsss]

@LukeSavenije I have not spent that much time looking into which motherboard to choose, yet.  My price range at the moment is $150-250 for the motherboard.  Ideally, the less it costs the better, but I don't want to skimp out too much on quality and performance.  As long as it's the LGA 1151 Socket (as I would rather not buy a new CPU cooler) it should be more than practical enough.

[LukeSavenije]

6 minutes ago, BootieShortsss said:

@LukeSavenije I have not spent that much time looking into which motherboard to choose, yet.  My price range at the moment is $150-250 for the motherboard.  Ideally, the less it costs the better, but I don't want to skimp out too much on quality and performance.  As long as it's the LGA 1151 Socket (as I would rather not buy a new CPU cooler) it should be more than practical enough.

well... as said the z390 extreme4 from asrock and any atx gigabyte aorus z390 morherboard is really good. all have well cooled vrms, and are 12 phase, so good enough for up to a 9900k to deliver power to