240hz enough?

[Mentos]

Is a i9 9900k and a vega 64 uv/oc enough for most shooter games at 240hz? (BF V, OW, R6, Fortnut, Black OPS 4 (Blackout)

 

[EspinalAndres]

At low settings maybe, at ultra I doubt it can achive 240 fps for a 240 Hz monitor unless is a esport.

[Mira Yurizaki]

For Overwatch and Fortnite, playing on 1080p low details will probably get you there. The other games I'm not confident even setting it down to 720p with low settings will get it to 240 FPS.

 

Otherwise if you just wanted the high refresh rate, then sure.

[mariushm]

Probably not.

But 240hz is stupid anyway, you'd be better off with a VA/IPS panel with 144 Hz, instead of cheap TN 240 hz panels.

 

And also, frame timing is more important than number of frames, that's why again 144 hz makes more sense.

 

Listen/ Watch to the explanations here:

 

 

[Zando_]

2 minutes ago, mariushm said:

Probably not.

But 240hz is stupid anyway, you'd be better off with a VA/IPS panel with 144 Hz, instead of cheap TN 240 hz panels.

 

And also, frame timing is more important than number of frames, that's why again 144 hz makes more sense.

 

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^^^ I'd defo go with 144Hz and smoother frametimes than 240Hz. Have you used a 144Hz monitor before? It's pretty freaking buttery smooth when your system is running right, I doubt you'd really notice the improvement between that and 240Hz. 

[Brooksie359]

4 minutes ago, mariushm said:

Probably not.

But 240hz is stupid anyway, you'd be better off with a VA/IPS panel with 144 Hz, instead of cheap TN 240 hz panels.

 

And also, frame timing is more important than number of frames, that's why again 144 hz makes more sense.

 

Listen/ Watch to the explanations here:

 

 

Yeah as someone who plays alot of overwatch I would have to strongly disagree. I never once played that game on my 165hz 1440p isp monitor because it felt awful to play on. I have a 240hz and it is absolutely fantastic for competitive shooters and would recommend it over an ips any day of the week if you are a competitive person like me. If I want to play games that have good visuals I wouldn't play them on my 240hz but I hardly ever play those types of games to begin with. I upgraded my 1440p monitor to the pg27uq 4k 144hx hdr monitor and still use my 240hz monitor alot more. 

[Brooksie359]

9 minutes ago, mariushm said:

Probably not.

But 240hz is stupid anyway, you'd be better off with a VA/IPS panel with 144 Hz, instead of cheap TN 240 hz panels.

 

And also, frame timing is more important than number of frames, that's why again 144 hz makes more sense.

 

Listen/ Watch to the explanations here:

 

 

At 240hz you will have less input lag over a 144hz display no matter the framerates. You don't need to hit 240hz to beinfit from one and with those titles you can easily achieve 240 fps in alot of them. 

[Brooksie359]

7 minutes ago, Zando Bob said:

^^^ I'd defo go with 144Hz and smoother frametimes than 240Hz. Have you used a 144Hz monitor before? It's pretty freaking buttery smooth when your system is running right, I doubt you'd really notice the improvement between that and 240Hz. 

Running a 144hz display vs a 240hz display doesn't make your fps any smoother. I have used a 144hz and a 240hz and when using the 240hz at first i couldn't tell the difference. Then after playing on the 240hz for awhile I went to play on my friends 144hz again and could tell the difference. It does make a difference in games like fortnite and overwatch if you are good enough to take advantage of it. Often times the difference between clutching and not clutching is split seconds so it may seem small to you but it certainly isn't for me.  

[Brooksie359]

25 minutes ago, Mentos said:

Is a i9 9900k and a vega 64 uv/oc enough for most shooter games at 240hz? (BF V, OW, R6, Fortnut, Black OPS 4 (Blackout)

 

If I were you I would save some money and buy an 8700k instead and get a better gpu as it would increase your fps in alot of those games. If you can get a 2080 instead of a Vega 64 you should have no problem hitting high fps in those games. Remember that just because you have a 240hz display doesn't mean you need to hit 240 fps in all games. 

[mariushm]

144 hz  = 7 ms per frame

240 hz = 4 ms per frame

 

If you really think your split second reactions happen in 2-3 ms, then you're fooling yourself. Placebo and all that...

You're better off with stable 5-6 ms per frame of processing time, instead of 3-10 ms per frame you'd get at 240 or something like that. Less stuttering, smoother everything etc etc

 

[Mentos]

Yes yes, I understand, reeee reeeee, 240hz vs 144hz, 144hz is more worth it.

Fuck the colours, just wanted to ask if it could run and if it wouldn´t - What else would I need? 

On overwatch it´ll be enough, I already tested 240HZ and 144HZ, enough of a difference to justify me buying it

Thanks for the recommendation tho I guess

[Zando_]

10 minutes ago, Mentos said:

Yes yes, I understand, reeee reeeee, 240hz vs 144hz, 144hz is more worth it.

Fuck the colours, just wanted to ask if it could run and if it wouldn´t - What else would I need? 

On overwatch it´ll be enough, I already tested 240HZ and 144HZ, enough of a difference to justify me buying it

Thanks for the recommendation tho I guess

Well if you've already tested 240Hz and you do notice a difference (tons of people can't, others can), then go for it. If your GPU can't drive it at acceptable settings then get a used 1080 Ti or something similar, but even if you can only push 200fps it's still a decent bit over 144. 

[Brooksie359]

1 hour ago, mariushm said:

144 hz  = 7 ms per frame

240 hz = 4 ms per frame

 

If you really think your split second reactions happen in 2-3 ms, then you're fooling yourself. Placebo and all that...

You're better off with stable 5-6 ms per frame of processing time, instead of 3-10 ms per frame you'd get at 240 or something like that. Less stuttering, smoother everything etc etc

 

What are you even talking about? You have less input lag on a 240hz period. There is no case where you would have higher input lag with the 240hz vs 144hz if you are running at the same fps. Let's say you are running at 144 fps unless you have vsync or gsync you won't have your frames and refreshrate align. Also vsync and gsymc both cause input lag. Now you are showing the most up to date frame very 1÷240 seconds vs 1+144 seconds so it will inherently have less input lag. 240hz is just plain better. Also you think that you need to be able to react in 2 to 3 ms to make use of it? Think if it this way let's say I see someone and it takes me time to react and start shooting. I get them to 1 hp but I was using a 144hz monitor. Even with the same reaction time I would get 2 to 3 ms to more of shoot time which could defiantly be the difference. Not only that but the 240hz are generally just better quality monitors than other tn panel monitors. I play overwatch at the masters levels where 99% of the time the you are beating people by being a fraction if a second faster because everyone is very fast. I can't tell you how many times I die and I had even pressed the button that would have saved me as I died. If I was a couple of ms faster it would have been the difference. Or I just miss my last shot because they get behind just barely in time. If you are playing at bronze level then I guess it won't matter as much but at the higher tiers of play a couple milliseconds matters.  

[Princess Luna]

Why Vega 64? you're getting an i9 9900K with fast memory, go and grab a RTX 2080 also.

[Brooksie359]

1 hour ago, Mentos said:

Yes yes, I understand, reeee reeeee, 240hz vs 144hz, 144hz is more worth it.

Fuck the colours, just wanted to ask if it could run and if it wouldn´t - What else would I need? 

On overwatch it´ll be enough, I already tested 240HZ and 144HZ, enough of a difference to justify me buying it

Thanks for the recommendation tho I guess

I would recommend an 8700k and a rtx 2080 for better fps. 

[Brooksie359]

1 minute ago, Princess Cadence said:

Why Vega 64? you're getting an i9 9900K with fast memory, go and grab a RTX 2080 also.

Maybe because they want a really good space heater? I mean a 9900k with a Vega 64 is gonna output alot of heat. 

[Mentos]

I got the vega 64 to 1080 ti performance with alot of tweaking and water cooling, so I´m not sure bout the 2080, i got 3600 cl14 bdie memory but only a i5 8600k at 5ghz

I guess I´ll take the better cpu or wait for amd cpus