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I see PS5 coming sooner next time around. People buy new smartphones every 2 years. Announcement in 4 years, retail that holiday season. All pending if....

 

Customer support for 4K largely surpasses 3D sales. In Q1 2011, there were only 1 mil customers who bought 3D. I was one of them. Sony added 3D support fast. They were ready, despite horrible conception of 3D. I only watched Shrek Box Set and Avatar that year, in 3D. 3D BluRays were $40+, stream support was non-existent. Even now, So many homes have 3D and don't use it. Netflix is huge. Everyone uses it. 4K and UHD will be bannered next to thumbnails and those who don't know, will soon. Week 1, 2014, my ISP announced 2x speed increases for all commercial and residential markets for no additional cost to the consumer. The bandwidth will be enough. The content will be available. 

 

I expect Sony will once again be fast to adapt, but I don't expect it to work with games as easy as 3D was. With all the pieces coming together, quality of content will demand for more horsepower. Sony will tell us we can have 4K/UHD quality textures and assets rendered in the cloud and streamed to our machines, but I'm not buying it. UHD gaming will be local hardware based before it is streamed. I see GPU performance crushing Moore's Law in the near future.

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I am not coming from a PC fanboy perspective. I think consoles will be replaced by console-like things that draw from nvidia grid style cloud computing setups.

 

Either way, the console form factor is gonna be here for a long, long time to come. I don't see cloud computing based gaming as an option for the average console gamer due to him not having adequate internet for it. Maybe in 20+ years most gamers will switch to cloud gaming, but certainly not in time for the next generation. 

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I think the milestone Sony should try to achieve with their next console is proper 1080p gameplay.  But at this point its looking like Nvidia might beat them there in a couple iterations of Shield-like devices.

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Competitive console gamers? Haha funny. All I am saying is cloud gaming will replace consoles but they will occupy the same spot in the ecosystem as consoles occupy now.

 

They just don't know it yet :P

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 Moore's law is going to slow down For us to progress at the same rate or higher anymore, there needs to be a new breakthrough."

the breakthrough already happened

 

its called chip stacking  

we are seeing it now on samsung NANDs

 

soon we will see it with CPUs GPUs and DRAM

Volta from nvidia will have stacked DRAM

 

check these out

 

 

http://www.extremetech.com/computing/95319-ibm-and-3m-to-stack-100-silicon-chips-together-using-glue

http://phys.org/news187454589.html

http://www.extremetech.com/computing/119843-the-future-of-computers-3d-chip-stacking

http://www.forbes.com/sites/michaelkanellos/2013/08/14/with-3d-chips-samsung-leaves-moores-law-behind/

 

 

this will give us a lot more time for the next big thing which is supposed to be graphene or something like it

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the breakthrough already happened

 

its called chip stacking  

we are seeing it now on samsung NANDs

 

soon we will see it with CPUs GPUs and DRAM

Volta from nvidia will have stacked DRAM

 

check these out

 

 

http://www.extremetech.com/computing/95319-ibm-and-3m-to-stack-100-silicon-chips-together-using-glue

http://phys.org/news187454589.html

http://www.extremetech.com/computing/119843-the-future-of-computers-3d-chip-stacking

http://www.forbes.com/sites/michaelkanellos/2013/08/14/with-3d-chips-samsung-leaves-moores-law-behind/

 

 

this will give us a lot more time for the next big thing which is supposed to be graphene or something like it

 

I'm sorry to say this, but not even close. It will perhaps give us some extra years (if it get adopted by the industry) but it's not THE breakthrough.

 

Chip stacking is merely a way to optimize what's already there. It does not usher an era of something far more different and powerful.

 

Certainly is not comparable to the phenomenal change that the transistor and microchip did many decades ago.

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Consoles will continue to exist. The only change is that they will continue to merge PC technologies. Believe it or not, a very high percentage of gamers don't want to sit in front a KBM and monitor to play games and don't want to boot into Windows to play NBA 2K with their buddies on a couch. 

 

PC gaming has become more and more like consoles too over the past decade. Does that mean that PC gaming will cease to exist also? 

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Consoles aren't necessarily limited to some sort of computer that you can put in your living room. In a way, you can consider tablets and smartphones to be consoles of their own. You can play games on them, and in case your criteria is a little bit more narrow than "can it play games and Netflix," then there are fairly intensive games on those devices, as well as a variety of different functions. Handhelds aren't strictly considered consoles, but for all intents and purposes, they are. The idea of the "living room gaming system" is, in my mind, slowly fading from the minds of others because it's just so much easier to have a computer that either you built or even bought prebuilt.

 

As consoles run out of ways to really innovate and set themselves apart from PCs - which are open platforms that many people can develop for - then they begin to look irrelevant. It's why we see smartphone and tablet gaming on the rise, I think; because they have something else to offer, for better or worse. You really just can't beat a system that is open to everyone, and I feel this is extremely apparent in the case of PCs versus consoles. You can try, and there are arguments to be had about the closed-garden systems that consoles practice, but the barriers to entry are what will really set apart the PC from the Xbox One, or the Playstation 4, or even the Wii U.

 

I say "even the Wii U" because it does, in a way, offer something that PCs haven't necessarily reached, and that's the motion- and tablet-controls. Maybe it's not the greatest example of how consoles can innovate, but doing things like that makes something look increasingly relevant. If the people developing for your system have the peace of mind knowing that those who own your system are going to use that feature, then they're more likely to develop for it and it becomes more mainstream. This is why I didn't begrudge Microsoft for bundling the Kinect with the Xbox One (though I did for having them force users to use it). If the users own a Kinect anyway, the only problem is whether or not the device in question is good enough to develop for.

 

This is, in my opinion, the Achilles' heel of consoles.

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