PSU what should i get

[deathsblow]

well iv upgraded my case from a normal case to a newer  one with better air flow i have a no  name psu right now and will be upgrading my psu i have a..... i5 7500..... 2x 8gb DDR4 (16gb)  2400mhz ram....Asus z270 tuff mk2 ...Asus Cerberus GTX1050 TI Advanced  4GB......... 128gb ssd .....2tb and a 1tb HHD .. should i get a 750w ? or will i be fine with a 500w ???  my new case is below

Aerocool Cylon PC Gaming Case, Mid-Tower ATX, RGB,

[SidM]

500w, i would recommend the corsair cxm 500

[TheBean]

 anything more than 400W from a reputable brand. use pc partpicker

[LIGISTX]

Honestly, with the exact parts in that PC, it won't draw more than 250 watts. That said, I agree, any 4-500 watt unit from a reputable name (corsair, EVGA, seasonic etc) would be fine. 

 

This is actually a very good PSU. Its not the most efficient, but for the price you can't beat it. Its good quality.

 

https://smile.amazon.com/EVGA-Bronze-Warranty-Supply-100-BT-0450-K1/dp/B01N9X3F8F/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1545709791&sr=8-2&keywords=evga+450+watt

[aisle9]

21 minutes ago, deathsblow said:

well iv upgraded my case from a normal case to a newer  one with better air flow i have a no  name psu right now and will be upgrading my psu i have a..... i5 7500..... 2x 8gb DDR4 (16gb)  2400mhz ram....Asus z270 tuff mk2 ...Asus Cerberus GTX1050 TI Advanced  4GB......... 128gb ssd .....2tb and a 1tb HHD .. should i get a 750w ? or will i be fine with a 500w ???  my new case is below

Aerocool Cylon PC Gaming Case, Mid-Tower ATX, RGB,

This would do you quite nicely. $30 after MIR. If you want extra overhead for future upgrades, the non-modular 550W version of this PSU is the same price.

[Stefan Payne]

2 hours ago, {EAC} Shoot em UP said:

Honestly, with the exact parts in that PC, it won't draw more than 250 watts. That said, I agree, any 4-500 watt unit from a reputable name (corsair, EVGA, seasonic etc) would be fine. 

 

This is actually a very good PSU. Its not the most efficient, but for the price you can't beat it. Its good quality.

 

https://smile.amazon.com/EVGA-Bronze-Warranty-Supply-100-BT-0450-K1/dp/B01N9X3F8F/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1545709791&sr=8-2&keywords=evga+450+watt

You mean this one that got tested a couple of weeks ago on Jonnyguru and failed miserably?
This one:
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story&reid=569

 

RLY?!
Sorry, but no. That PSU is shit and must not be gotten.

 

 

Minimum requirement should be DC-DC, even if it is more expensive, it is worth it.

[LIGISTX]

2 hours ago, Stefan Payne said:

You mean this one that got tested a couple of weeks ago on Jonnyguru and failed miserably?
This one:
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story&reid=569

 

RLY?!
Sorry, but no. That PSU is shit and must not be gotten.

 

 

Minimum requirement should be DC-DC, even if it is more expensive, it is worth it.

Never said it’s a top notch unit, but for 29 bucks.... as they stated in your provided link below.

 

I admit last I knew the EVGA B series was better than that, is this a new revision? They used to be a pretty solid option for the price. That said, OP doesn’t have a very demanding system. It won’t even come close to its 450 watt advertised number, I doubt it would ever go over ~200 watts.

 

Either way, the lowest mark bringing down the score was value, which was valued at 45 bucks. It’s almost half that price right now on amazon on the link provided, so that would bring the 4 to a what, 7 ish? Once again, not the best PSU humanity has every created, but for 29 bucks... hard to beat. If you want a better unit, sure, check out other options. Plenty of PSU’s to pick from. 

 

“The EVGA 450BT turned out to be somewhere in the middle of the recent bargain units from EVGA I've looked at recently. It's not quite as good as the 450BV, but a little better than the 750N1. With that said, it is clearly an old group regulated unit built for systems of a bygone era, and I'm strongly advising you to get something more in tune with modern systems. This unit isn't barking at the gutless wonder door, but it's just not that good of a unit here near the end of 2018. 

The Good:

• excellent ripple control
• excellent turn on spike suppression
• can handle a bit over rated temperature
• great for old 5V based computers

The Bad:

• lack of overtemp protection nearly allowed the 3.3V parts to fail
• solder boogers on the mainboard

The Mediocre:

• second tier capacitors
• fan quality
• can't handle 12V heavy crossloads 
• over and under voltage protection is a bit loos”

[seon123]

1 hour ago, {EAC} Shoot em UP said:

Either way, the lowest mark bringing down the score was value, which was valued at 45 bucks. It’s almost half that price right now on amazon on the link provided, so that would bring the 4 to a what, 7 ish? Once again, not the best PSU humanity has every created, but for 29 bucks... hard to beat. If you want a better unit, sure, check out other options. Plenty of PSU’s to pick from. 

You do realise noone cares about the conclusion page? Look at the numbers instead. 

It's very easy to beat it for the price, actually. With their own BR, for example... that one at least has DC-DC for the minor rails. 

Then again, for $45, you can get the CX450, which is much much much better than any of the B series PSUs. 

If you include rebates, there's the CX550 for $30. So yeah... The BT is crap, and crap for the price. 

[Stefan Payne]

11 hours ago, {EAC} Shoot em UP said:

Never said it’s a top notch unit, but for 29 bucks.... as they stated in your provided link below.

Yeah, that's the usual excuse people come up with.

But for XX Bucks its OK.

 

No its not.

If you have the choice between the 10€/Litre Oil that is high quality and increases the lifetime of your car by 500k miles or the choice between the 1€/Litre Oil that will destroy your car within the next 150k miles, would you still choose the Oil?

Because that's what you're arguing for. And no, its not available for "29 Bucks", right now here in Germany the BT is listed for  45€.

For that money I can get a Pure Power 10/400W wich is independantly regulated. I can also go cheaper with the System Power 9/400W wich is 38€.

 

So no, even for that Price is not a valid statement as it depends on region and in some regions there are way better units  for the price. So stop defending your shit, when you are wrong...

 

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I admit last I knew the EVGA B series was better than that, is this a new revision?

No, its a cost down, cheaper version. ANd the EVGA B is still not good. But in the end probably a bit better than the BT. But then again, here in Germany the EVGA B500 is over 50€.

Why the heck should I pay 50€ for an ancient group regulated unit with a shitty fan that's comparable to the be quiet System Power 8 wich is almost half the price. Or rather the EVGA B500 is at least 50% more...

 

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They used to be a pretty solid option for the price. That said, OP doesn’t have a very demanding system. It won’t even come close to its 450 watt advertised number, I doubt it would ever go over ~200 watts.

No they don't. 

At least from People who are interested in PSU and don't rate shit by brand like some people do, who recommend bad PSU because a nice sounding name is on it - like the EVGA BT you recommended.

 

If it were by Chieftec, Silverstone or whoever else, even YOU wouldn't look at it...

 

And no, it won't be fine as its group regulated wich means that the Voltages will be bad because it needs to be loaded the way the manufacturer designed the unit. If it doesn't, you have a Problem.

 

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Either way, the lowest mark bringing down the score was value, which was valued at 45 bucks.

Even without the "Value" part, its a bad unit with bad voltage regulation. Read the Text!

 

For example:

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 voltage regulation was beyond mediocre giving us a 9.59% average in the hot box.

 

Or look at that:

3.562V

5.39V

11.26V

You know wich volage here is in spec??

NONE IS!

Spec allows +/- 5% -> 0,6V on 12V, 0,25V on 5V and 0,165V on 3,3V.

Wich means that 3,3V is 100mV over spec, 240mV over on 5V and 140mV under on 12V.

 

Yeah, absolutely a great unit, an awesome unit you really want inside your PC...

Its like shitty oil in your Car, it slowly destroys (wears down) the components...

 

If you don't have any money for good components in the first place, that's really what you want, isn't it?!

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It’s almost half that price right now on amazon on the link provided, so that would bring the 4 to a what, 7 ish? Once again, not the best PSU humanity has every created, but for 29 bucks... hard to beat. If you want a better unit, sure, check out other options. Plenty of PSU’s to pick from. 

Half the Price doesn't make it a good PSU, it just makes it a cheaper PSU.

For the same price you can find equally shitty PSU from other Manufacturers, though we wouldn't have this discussion right now because nobody cares about PSU from lesser known brands, even if they are better...

 

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“The EVGA 450BT turned out to be somewhere in the middle of the recent bargain units from EVGA I've looked at recently. It's not quite as good as the 450BV, but a little better than the 750N1. With that said, it is clearly an old group regulated unit built for systems of a bygone era, and I'm strongly advising you to get something more in tune with modern systems. This unit isn't barking at the gutless wonder door, but it's just not that good of a unit here near the end of 2018. 

The Good:

• excellent ripple control
• excellent turn on spike suppression
• can handle a bit over rated temperature
• great for old 5V based computers

The Bad:

• lack of overtemp protection nearly allowed the 3.3V parts to fail
• solder boogers on the mainboard

The Mediocre:

• second tier capacitors
• fan quality
• can't handle 12V heavy crossloads 
• over and under voltage protection is a bit loos”

I've marked the important stuff.

 

The last point of the top section is an euphemismus for "its shit for 12V Heavy Systems"...