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LJay24
By LJay24
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So right now I am trying all i can to research as much as possible. Of course, when I bought my case, I clearly didn't do it enough. The case I bought was the p350x and I didn't notice it had a max cooling size of 160mm (Noctua NH-D15S will be right up against the glass which I don't trust). Now, the problem here is that the best way to cool the 8700k is with a beefy air cooler according to many. 

 

I was desperate so I came into liquid cooling/aio alternatives. I came across some really good looking ones that I would honestly love.  (Corsair h115i pro, nzxt kraken x62 v2, evga clc 280, etc.) The major problems with this is that I am a very anxious person and leakage and pump failure are the factors that make this hard for me to choose. So what I'm basically wondering is out of those 3 AIO's, which one would probably last the longest, known to have extremely little to no failures or leaks, and would support me with replacing all the damaged hardware.

 

I know so many people say, "Liquid cooler aio's have an incredibly rare chance of failing or leaking," but with all the evidence I've gathered there has been numerous reports of RMA's, failures, leakages, etc happening with aio's. Now you may say this probably isnt true but I've seen so many forums about leakages, videos (gamer nexus, paul's hardware etc.). But if anyone can confirm if at least one of the clc's i listed are reliable in replacing damaged hardware, no leakage, reliable pump with extremely low fail rate.

 

TL; DR 

I would appreciate advice on any aio's that are reliable in brands "happy" with replacing damaged hardware other than the aio itself, barely any reports of leakage or failure, and overall noise, cooling, and ease of everything. 

 

  • CPU: Intel Core i7-8700k
  • Mobo: Asus ROG Strix z370-e Gaming
  • Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 2x8gb DDR4-3200mhz CAS 16
  • Storage: Samsung 970 EVO 500GB NVMe SSD
  • GPU: Probably an rtx 2070
  • Case: Phanteks Eclipse p350x
  • PSU: EVGA SuperNova 750w G2

I will probably try to overclock all cores to 4.7-5ghz if this setup allows it and I win the silicon lottery. 

 

I know I am asking a whole lot and this is a looong post, but I want to make sure i do things right and actually find something good. 

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Just get a case that holds big air coolers, cheaper that way.

 

Besides, the only way to make sure a fail in an liquid cooler won't hurt the hardware is to have the CPU socket facing downwards, and the entire liquid cooler below that. Because gravity.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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You really don't need to worry about leakage from an AIO for the most part, while it could happen its very rare, I think all 3 of those are actually manufactured by asetek anyway so they're essentially very similar.

 

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If you really cant get over your anxiety about it then just get a different case that fits your air cooler. Failure rates are a lot lower than you think when you're specifically looking for reports of failure you don't see everyone that has the cooler and no issue at all.

 

Watching linus' videos should have shown you by now that its really ok to no baby your hardware, if your cooler is touching the glass its probably fine if it still closes without force.

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3 minutes ago, LJay24 said:

Now, the problem here is that the best way to cool the 8700k is with a beefy air cooler according to many. 

Actually, that would be liquid oxygen (i think that's colder than liquid hydrogen and helium, right?). Also, I don't know who you talked to, but the vast majority of people I know with an 8700K have an AIO.

 

4 minutes ago, LJay24 said:

I was desperate so I came into liquid cooling/aio alternatives.

You make it sound like buying an AIO is like taking out a loan to buy a Corvette when you're 55.

 

6 minutes ago, LJay24 said:

The major problems with this is that I am a very anxious person and leakage and pump failure are the factors that make this hard for me to choose. So what I'm basically wondering is out of those 3 AIO's, which one would probably last the longest, known to have extremely little to no failures or leaks, and would support me with replacing all the damaged hardware.

The Corsair H110i has 2700 reviews on Amazon. 200 of them are 1 star. And you have to remember, people are more likely to review a product when they have a negative product experience, so many good products go unreviewed. This is particularly true for motherboards.

8 minutes ago, LJay24 said:

I would appreciate advice on any aio's that are reliable in brands "happy" with replacing damaged hardware other than the aio itself

Doesn't exist.

 

TL:DR Just buy one. I'd recommend Corsair or NZXT. For reference, I have both an H100i v2 and an H115i Pro and have nothing but good things to say about both. Specifically the H115i Pro, which comes with super low noise fans.

 

10 minutes ago, LJay24 said:

I will probably try to overclock all cores to 4.7-5ghz if this setup allows it and I win the silicon lottery. 

Most chips can do 5 GHz just fine, no winning needed.

My Build, v2.1 --- CPU: i7-8700K @ 5.2GHz/1.288v || MoBo: Asus ROG STRIX Z390-E Gaming || RAM: 4x4GB G.SKILL Ripjaws 4 2666 14-14-14-33 || Cooler: Custom Loop || GPU: EVGA GTX 1080 Ti SC Black, on water || PSU: EVGA G2 850W || Case: Corsair 450D || SSD: 850 Evo 250GB, Intel 660p 2TB || Storage: WD Blue 2TB || G502 & Glorious PCGR Fully Custom 80% Keyboard || MX34VQ, PG278Q, PB278Q

Audio --- Headphones: Massdrop x Sennheiser HD 6XX || Amp: Schiit Audio Magni 3 || DAC: Schiit Audio Modi 3 || Mic: Blue Yeti

 

[Under Construction]

 

My Truck --- 2002 F-350 7.3 Powerstroke || 6-speed

My Car --- 2006 Mustang GT || 5-speed || BBK LTs, O/R X, MBRP Cat-back || BBK Lowering Springs, LCAs || 2007 GT500 wheels w/ 245s/285s

 

The Experiment --- CPU: i5-3570K @ 4.0 GHz || MoBo: Asus P8Z77-V LK || RAM: 16GB Corsair 1600 4x4 || Cooler: CM Hyper 212 Evo || GPUs: Asus GTX 750 Ti, || PSU: Corsair TX750M Gold || Case: Thermaltake Core G21 TG || SSD: 840 Pro 128GB || HDD: Seagate Barracuda 2TB

 

R.I.P. Asus X99-A motherboard, April 2016 - October 2018, may you rest in peace. 5820K, if I ever buy you a new board, it'll be a good one.

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8 minutes ago, LJay24 said:

max cooling size of 160mm (Noctua NH-D15S will be right up against the glass

That's fine. It'll get close but shouldn't touch. Here's an example: https://pcpartpicker.com/b/JCq48d

The amount of clearance available is usually slightly more than what's listed.

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1 minute ago, Cereal5 said:

but the vast majority of people I know with an 8700K have an AIO.

http://www.relaxedtech.com/reviews/noctua/nh-d15-versus-closed-loop-liquid-coolers/2

 

AIO isnt really a good representative of the power of liquid, custom loops with high flow rate and radiator surface area are.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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2 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

http://www.relaxedtech.com/reviews/noctua/nh-d15-versus-closed-loop-liquid-coolers/2

 

AIO isnt really a good representative of the power of liquid, custom loops with high flow rate and radiator surface area are.

Most of his post is stemming from anxiety about future issues, I don't think he'd be able to handle building a custom loop himself.

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5 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

http://www.relaxedtech.com/reviews/noctua/nh-d15-versus-closed-loop-liquid-coolers/2

 

AIO isnt really a good representative of the power of liquid, custom loops with high flow rate and radiator surface area are.

Actually I don't think anything is a good representation of cooling an 8700K until you delid it and know that the TIM under there is at least covering the whole die... lol.

My Build, v2.1 --- CPU: i7-8700K @ 5.2GHz/1.288v || MoBo: Asus ROG STRIX Z390-E Gaming || RAM: 4x4GB G.SKILL Ripjaws 4 2666 14-14-14-33 || Cooler: Custom Loop || GPU: EVGA GTX 1080 Ti SC Black, on water || PSU: EVGA G2 850W || Case: Corsair 450D || SSD: 850 Evo 250GB, Intel 660p 2TB || Storage: WD Blue 2TB || G502 & Glorious PCGR Fully Custom 80% Keyboard || MX34VQ, PG278Q, PB278Q

Audio --- Headphones: Massdrop x Sennheiser HD 6XX || Amp: Schiit Audio Magni 3 || DAC: Schiit Audio Modi 3 || Mic: Blue Yeti

 

[Under Construction]

 

My Truck --- 2002 F-350 7.3 Powerstroke || 6-speed

My Car --- 2006 Mustang GT || 5-speed || BBK LTs, O/R X, MBRP Cat-back || BBK Lowering Springs, LCAs || 2007 GT500 wheels w/ 245s/285s

 

The Experiment --- CPU: i5-3570K @ 4.0 GHz || MoBo: Asus P8Z77-V LK || RAM: 16GB Corsair 1600 4x4 || Cooler: CM Hyper 212 Evo || GPUs: Asus GTX 750 Ti, || PSU: Corsair TX750M Gold || Case: Thermaltake Core G21 TG || SSD: 840 Pro 128GB || HDD: Seagate Barracuda 2TB

 

R.I.P. Asus X99-A motherboard, April 2016 - October 2018, may you rest in peace. 5820K, if I ever buy you a new board, it'll be a good one.

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Just now, Cereal5 said:

Actually I don't think anything is a good representation of cooling an 8700K until you delid it and know that the TIM under there is at least covering the whole die... lol.

Fuck it just go direct die cooling ;)

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6 minutes ago, Labeled said:

Fuck it just go direct die cooling ;)

That's what I'm saying. Funny you said that, I mentioned that on the discord server like 2 hours ago lol. Might as well just glue the CPU to the top of Mt Everest. That oughtta be enough, right?

My Build, v2.1 --- CPU: i7-8700K @ 5.2GHz/1.288v || MoBo: Asus ROG STRIX Z390-E Gaming || RAM: 4x4GB G.SKILL Ripjaws 4 2666 14-14-14-33 || Cooler: Custom Loop || GPU: EVGA GTX 1080 Ti SC Black, on water || PSU: EVGA G2 850W || Case: Corsair 450D || SSD: 850 Evo 250GB, Intel 660p 2TB || Storage: WD Blue 2TB || G502 & Glorious PCGR Fully Custom 80% Keyboard || MX34VQ, PG278Q, PB278Q

Audio --- Headphones: Massdrop x Sennheiser HD 6XX || Amp: Schiit Audio Magni 3 || DAC: Schiit Audio Modi 3 || Mic: Blue Yeti

 

[Under Construction]

 

My Truck --- 2002 F-350 7.3 Powerstroke || 6-speed

My Car --- 2006 Mustang GT || 5-speed || BBK LTs, O/R X, MBRP Cat-back || BBK Lowering Springs, LCAs || 2007 GT500 wheels w/ 245s/285s

 

The Experiment --- CPU: i5-3570K @ 4.0 GHz || MoBo: Asus P8Z77-V LK || RAM: 16GB Corsair 1600 4x4 || Cooler: CM Hyper 212 Evo || GPUs: Asus GTX 750 Ti, || PSU: Corsair TX750M Gold || Case: Thermaltake Core G21 TG || SSD: 840 Pro 128GB || HDD: Seagate Barracuda 2TB

 

R.I.P. Asus X99-A motherboard, April 2016 - October 2018, may you rest in peace. 5820K, if I ever buy you a new board, it'll be a good one.

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1 minute ago, Cereal5 said:

That's what I'm saying. Funny you said that, I mentioned that on the discord server like 2 hours ago lol. Might as well just glue the CPU to the top of Mt Everest. That oughtta be enough, right?

Nah, just mount it on pluto that's gotta be way cooler.

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