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Need quality B450 board.

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7 hours ago, PopsicleHustler said:

IT can run 4.2Ghz no problem, but I'm afraid about CPU power delivery because its not designed for CPU of this caliber.

Personally speaking I'd just run it at 4.1ghz all cores or leave it stock for the XFR that does works well for gaming.

 

Spending money for pretty much non-existing to negligible performance boost when you might want a X570 chipset with sweet PCI-e 4.0 and what not just this following year sounds like the way to go.

Hi

 

I recently upgraded to R7 2700x from R5 1600. Currently its sitting in B350-F. Chip is capable of 4.2Ghz at 1.375V. I tried putting all my System fans at 100% and ran Prime95 for 15 minutes, system survived but I stopped it because I don't want to blow up my house.

 

So I need a B450 board that is capable of atleast 4-4.1Ghz at 1.3v. I don't feel like getting X470 because I'm not doing anything crazy.

 

My current pick is https://www.amazon.co.uk/GIGABYTE-B450-AORUS-PRO-Socket/dp/B07G2N5SST/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1544413482&sr=8-5&keywords=B450

 

Recommendations are welcome. If I have to get X470 - no issues there. Budget 200 euros.

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6 minutes ago, PopsicleHustler said:

Currently its sitting in B350-F. Chip is capable of 4.2Ghz at 1.375V.

your current b350 cannot OC to 4/ 4.1? what issue did you have?

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Just now, dgsddfgdfhgs said:

your current b350 cannot OC to 4/ 4.1? what issue did you have?

IT can run 4.2Ghz no problem, but I'm afraid about CPU power delivery because its not designed for CPU of this caliber.

Main system: i7 8700k 5Ghz / Asus Prime Z370-A / Corsair Vengeance 2x8GB 3000Mhz / Asus TUF RTX3080 / EVGA 750W GQ / Fractal Design Meshify C

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The MSI B450 Gaming Pro Carbon is basically an X470, but slightly cheaper, and it holds the crown out of all of the B450 motherboards. If you can't get a good OC with it you'd really need to step up a few tiers.

 

Hardware Unboxed gave it their "No Compromises" award in their B450 roundup (Timestamp 7:16):

 

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B450 / 350 power delivery is pretty much the same, may be slight diff from brands. so no harm using your B350 is it already has top quality in asus line.

you can keep temp monitored till a point you really feel uncomfort

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what were your temps

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2 minutes ago, ears_ears said:

what were your temps

CPU Stays in 60s while gaming at 4.1Ghz. 

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1 minute ago, PopsicleHustler said:

CPU Stays in 60s while gaming at 4.1Ghz. 

What about at 4.2ghz?

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23 minutes ago, PopsicleHustler said:

Budget 200 euros.

That's enough for boards like the X370-F, Gigabyte X370 Gaming 5/K7, even Crosshair VI Hero. Honestly if you aren't pushing things very far (at 1.3V 2700X draws roughly the same power as 1st gen Ryzen 7 at 1.4V)  then might as well stay with the B350-F, the gains by getting even the best B450 will not come close to the cost of just adding fans directly blowing the Vcore VRM.

 

also the Gigabyte B450 boards are just as incapable (if that's what you use to describe the B350-F) in handling an 8 core as the B350-F

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7 minutes ago, ears_ears said:

What about at 4.2ghz?

75 during stress test.

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Just now, PopsicleHustler said:

75 during stress test.

looks fine to me 

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1 minute ago, ears_ears said:

looks fine to me 

I never said they were bad.

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9 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

That's enough for boards like the X370-F, Gigabyte X370 Gaming 5/K7, even Crosshair VI Hero. Honestly if you aren't pushing things very far (at 1.3V 2700X draws roughly the same power as 1st gen Ryzen 7 at 1.4V)  then might as well stay with the B350-F, the gains by getting even the best B450 will not come close to the cost of just adding fans directly blowing the Vcore VRM.

 

also the Gigabyte B450 boards are just as incapable (if that's what you use to describe the B350-F) in handling an 8 core as the B350-F

I have DRP4, so there is no option for active VRM cooling.

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1 minute ago, PopsicleHustler said:

I never said they were bad.

so why do you need another motherboard

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1 minute ago, ears_ears said:

so why do you need another motherboard

Because VRMs on my current board could die.

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are there temp issues with your VRMs?

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1 minute ago, ears_ears said:

are there temp issues with your VRMs?

I don't know, but from what I've seen from other posts, VRMs are getting very hot when running overclocked 2700x

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what are the temps

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7 minutes ago, ears_ears said:

what are the temps

VRMs probably stay around 90-100°C under stress test at 1.375v.

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Very high, but as long as it's not throttling fine i guess

 

if you're not comfortable drop the voltage by 0.05 increments, deal with the lower clockspeeds it's not that much of a performance decrease anyway

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7 hours ago, PopsicleHustler said:

IT can run 4.2Ghz no problem, but I'm afraid about CPU power delivery because its not designed for CPU of this caliber.

Personally speaking I'd just run it at 4.1ghz all cores or leave it stock for the XFR that does works well for gaming.

 

Spending money for pretty much non-existing to negligible performance boost when you might want a X570 chipset with sweet PCI-e 4.0 and what not just this following year sounds like the way to go.

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7 hours ago, PopsicleHustler said:

I recently upgraded to R7 2700x from R5 1600. Currently its sitting in B350-F.

You talking about this?

https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/ROG-STRIX-B350-F-GAMING/

 

7 hours ago, PopsicleHustler said:

Chip is capable of 4.2Ghz at 1.375V. I tried putting all my System fans at 100% and ran Prime95 for 15 minutes, system survived but I stopped it because I don't want to blow up my house.

How do you know??

How did you test that??

 

7 hours ago, PopsicleHustler said:

So I need a B450 board that is capable of atleast 4-4.1Ghz at 1.3v. I don't feel like getting X470 because I'm not doing anything crazy.

You already have one of the best B-Series AM4 Boards.

If you want better, you have to go X-Series.

 

7 hours ago, PopsicleHustler said:

My current pick is https://www.amazon.co.uk/GIGABYTE-B450-AORUS-PRO-Socket/dp/B07G2N5SST/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1544413482&sr=8-5&keywords=B450

 

Recommendations are welcome. If I have to get X470 - no issues there. Budget 200 euros.

IMO waste of money.

Stick with what you have and wait for the 500 series and see what happens...

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18 hours ago, Princess Cadence said:

Personally speaking I'd just run it at 4.1ghz all cores or leave it stock for the XFR that does works well for gaming.

 

Spending money for pretty much non-existing to negligible performance boost when you might want a X570 chipset with sweet PCI-e 4.0 and what not just this following year sounds like the way to go.

Alright then, I will leave it running  at 4.1 In B350. Will start saving up for X570 and R7 3000 series.

Main system: i7 8700k 5Ghz / Asus Prime Z370-A / Corsair Vengeance 2x8GB 3000Mhz / Asus TUF RTX3080 / EVGA 750W GQ / Fractal Design Meshify C

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