Need some help overclocking

[napper_tapper]

Hi all,

 

Currently trying to get some gentle overclocking on my components. So far my best settings are:

 

CPU = 4.2GHz, 1.40V VCore, CPUVcore and VCoreSOC loadline calibration both set to Turbo,

RAM = 3400Mhz at timings of 18-20-20-20-40-2T.

 

The problem is that when I done my benchmarks on Userbenchmark, the results are below expected across the board:

 

UserBenchmark: Results

CPU-Z: Results

 

Any pointers at all here? Really appreciate all the help I get on these forums, and I apologise in advance for being a scrub.

[shmoochie]

only getting 4.2 with 1.4v wow

[Jurrunio]

check temperatures and actual voltage used during testing with HWinfo sensor mode. Max LLC is prone to overshooting it, especially bad on Gigabyte boards

[Jurrunio]

5 minutes ago, shmoochie said:

only getting 4.2 with 1.4v wow

by 2700X standards that's pretty normal, though a bit on the disappointing side

[napper_tapper]

3 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

check temperatures and actual voltage used during testing with HWinfo sensor mode. Max LLC is prone to overshooting it, especially bad on Gigabyte boards

I dialled back the loadline calibration, there is another level above it (Extreme). Should I dial it back another level?

[Jurrunio]

1 minute ago, rmurph17 said:

I dialled back the loadline calibration, there is another level above it (Extreme). Should I dial it back another level?

just make sure under load the voltage doesnt go past what you set it to. 

[napper_tapper]

2 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

just make sure under load the voltage doesnt go past what you set it to. 

sorry for being a dumbass but how do I monitor/ record that? 

[shmoochie]

7 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

by 2700X standards that's pretty normal, though a bit on the disappointing side

LOL thats really bad. the lowest OC Ive ever personally done was was 4.5ghz

[napper_tapper]

8 minutes ago, shmoochie said:

LOL thats really bad. the lowest OC Ive ever personally done was was 4.5ghz

on 2700X? 

[Bananasplit_00]

14 minutes ago, rmurph17 said:

sorry for being a dumbass but how do I monitor/ record that? 

HWInfo and some benchmark will tell you. just look at core voltage and that should have a max. if that max goes over the voltage you set then LLC is being overly agressive. you also have ~0.025V to the limit if you have the cooling to take it and you want to push more. (though i only know that number from gen 1 Ryzen and im a littlle unsure if it applies for Ryzen+)

[napper_tapper]

Just now, Bananasplit_00 said:

HWInfo and some benchmark will tell you. just look at core voltage and that should have a max. if that max goes over the voltage you set then LLC is being overly agressive. you also have ~0.25V to the limit if you have the cooling to take it and you want to push more. (though i only know that number from gen 1 Ryzen and im a littlle unsure if it applies for Ryzen+)

It's currently air cooled with the stock cooler so I am being gentle with it I guess, I tickled it up to 4.25GHz at the same voltage and it's running stable in CPU-Z:

 

New CPU-Z: Results (New)

[Jurrunio]

13 minutes ago, shmoochie said:

LOL thats really bad. the lowest OC Ive ever personally done was was 4.5ghz

frequency with CPUs of different architecture cannot be compared

[Bananasplit_00]

1 minute ago, rmurph17 said:

It's currently air cooled with the stock cooler so I am being gentle with it I guess, I tickled it up to 4.25GHz at the same voltage and it's running stable in CPU-Z:

 

New CPU-Z: Results (New)

yah and i spotted a typo, Ryzen is not ment to be run at 1.65V, that would be pretty bad. i ment that the upper limit would be 1.425V which is the highest voltage a motherboard vendor(MSI) recomended for Ryzen AFAIK

 

If you are on the stock cooler still id be happy with this and be done with it, its a nice performance boost and as long as temps are fine then you are good to go

[shmoochie]

5 minutes ago, rmurph17 said:

on 2700X? 

nope just out of every PC ive ever overclocked. no point in getting an overclockable chip if it can't pass 4.4 IMO

[shmoochie]

1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

frequency with CPUs of different architecture cannot be compared

thats only what noobs say

[Bananasplit_00]

Just now, shmoochie said:

thats only what noobs say

ok so the FX series of chips are the best ones because they can go 8GHz then?

1 minute ago, shmoochie said:

nope just out of every PC ive ever overclocked. no point in getting an overclockable chip if it can't pass 4.4 IMO

do you know what IPC is?

[Jurrunio]

2 minutes ago, shmoochie said:

thats only what noobs say

dat irony is too much to take

[napper_tapper]

OK first of all, thank you to all the guys in here helping me out, it has been a great amount of help and I love these forums for it. 

 

In close to this thread I was able to tweak some things and get more performance:

 

CPU = 4.30 Ghz @ 1.39V,

RAM = 3,600MHz @ XMP Profile 1 (auto timings),

GPU = +157Mhz to base clock and +997Mhz on memory clock.

 

Happy with the thermals, happy with the small increases in performance. I did get the RTX to +202MHz on base clock and the thermals were not bad but it was artifacting space invaders all over the screen.