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GabenJr

Why Can't They Fix This?

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Ive been having this exact same issue with my Note 8 during medium to heavy use it gets fair good battery but if i take it off charge in the morning and dont touch it at all for the whole day it will be completely flat in 8hrs if theres bad service coverage it will be flat in 2-3hrs.im thinking about just upgrading to the note9 instead of dealing with the replacement through the service provider.

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On 9/8/2018 at 3:08 PM, GabenJr said:

We take some of the most common apps of 2018 and load them on to a Samsung Galaxy S9 Plus and a Google Pixel 2 XL to see why my Samsung phone always seems to overheat and run out of battery.

 

 

Buy a Samsung Galaxy S9+:

On Amazon: http://geni.us/KjgSwE

On Newegg: http://geni.us/L0J4

 

Buy a Pixel 2 XL:

On Amazon: http://geni.us/dheebA

On Newegg: http://geni.us/6ZEB

I have had this issue with many phones before, try completely shutting off all location services as they devour your battery!

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On 08/09/2018 at 10:08 PM, GabenJr said:

We take some of the most common apps of 2018 and load them on to a Samsung Galaxy S9 Plus and a Google Pixel 2 XL to see why my Samsung phone always seems to overheat and run out of battery.

 

 

Buy a Samsung Galaxy S9+:

On Amazon: http://geni.us/KjgSwE

On Newegg: http://geni.us/L0J4

 

Buy a Pixel 2 XL:

On Amazon: http://geni.us/dheebA

On Newegg: http://geni.us/6ZEB

I have an s8+ and I get the same exat trashy battery life from 6am to 12am it goes down to 35% and that is with light use

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On 08/09/2018 at 8:11 PM, OrbitalBuzzsaw said:

O N E P L U S  6

Agreed.

 

Did a review of the Samsung S9+ and I'd have to give it points for overall aesthetics, but when it comes to software and speed the OnePlus6 knocks it way out. 

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On 8.9.2018 at 9:08 PM, GabenJr said:

We take some of the most common apps of 2018 and load them on to a Samsung Galaxy S9 Plus and a Google Pixel 2 XL to see why my Samsung phone always seems to overheat and run out of battery.

 

 

Buy a Samsung Galaxy S9+:

On Amazon: http://geni.us/KjgSwE

On Newegg: http://geni.us/L0J4

 

Buy a Pixel 2 XL:

On Amazon: http://geni.us/dheebA

On Newegg: http://geni.us/6ZEB

This might have been said before... But have you tired to disable Bixby... Not just in the app itself but also by deleting the appdata? So bixby functions as it's not setup... The bixby app uses about 30-40% each day when it's setup (Even though ex bixby voice is disabled) on my S8+ and S9+.

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I made an account to let you guys know this. My s9 plus has been having this problem and I couldn't figure it out. But I think I just did. My phone has never been in any galaxy gear vr devices but gear vr services is using FOURTY FUCKING TWO percent if my battery. This is a screen shot of its usage

 

 

What I am currently doing is going through 

 

Dev options - running services 

 

Finding apps I don't use that are currently running after a fresh reboot

 

 

Then disabling them in settings. Hopefully this helps someone Ill report back if this fixes it. I'm going to try it for a few days

 

Edit:

 

So I used my phone for roughly an hour and half an hour of screen on time ( light stuff tho like sync for reddit.) started at 100% and I'm at 97%. Before I generally dropped 10% am hour regardless of use. I believe I have solved this at least in my caseThis is my usage after disabling gear vr and all Samsung services I wasn't using ( like bixby, Samsung app store.)   the other services were not using as much battery life as gear vr services but I figures it couldn't hurt

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On 9/9/2018 at 9:46 AM, Murtoman said:

Had to make an account finally for LTT just for this.

 

This guy seems to have had the same problem as me.

 

S7 edge user. Battery used to be fine for about a year,  easily 1 day usage. Until one day(no software updates around that time) it started ULTRA draining battery. Like to the amount linus had problems with. Easily less than 50% of previous performance. Only when in online connectivity though, airplane mode was fine. But man if you take that off you can see it dropping in plane sight.

 

I digged deep for this, its an unrooted phone so i went with gsam battery monitor and Systempanel2. Problem was that both were showing largest amount of battery usage% as ''Unallocated'' was getting desperate until randomly found someones comment:

 

You needed to delete Cache and Data from Google play services AND the dalvik cache from recovery menu. It was even REQUIRED to be done 1 before the other( sadly I dont remember which way anymore, but im guessing play services 1st, then dalvik) You can just try :D

 

Worked miracles. Battery life recovered to pretty much normal levels. Phones done the same thing a few times now, but this full wipe/delete play services seems to always fix it. Yes slightly inconvenient as you need to give some permissions again etc. BUT you get to keep your data and doesnt majorly impact regular phone usage.

 

Hope dis helps,

Peace out

 

-M

I too made an account just to look at this these and contribute my experience with Samsung.

 

Back on the Galaxy S1(Galaxy Fascinate on Verizon here in the states) I had this issue with Google sync with my school account. Specifically the Google services my school didn't offer, even more specific, picture backup (Picasa? At the time).

 

I'm not sure why specifically my Samsung phone did that when it's a Google service, but it did, and other devices didn't. (HTC incredible might have too ...) I'm guessing some way Samsung has "accounts" modified caused that to "wake-lock" the phone.

 

Try taking pictures in the new phone and see if it dies trying to sync pictures to perhaps the LMG Google account(s). Or just start disabling account sync options until you find which service it might be.

 

 

Antidotal Information:

-Not an Android developer, but software engineer nonetheless, so I'm not completely in the dark

-I've only used S1,S4,S7, and now Note 8 as daily drivers

-I've also had the occasional bad day with battery life on each device for similar reasons everyone else had mention in the topic (screen facing pocket, rogue app, cache needed some cleaning... Samsung's skin has been less of a problem lately.)

-My Note 8 and it's "small" battery can last me ~4-5 hours playing Pokemon Go.

-Snapchat wrecks the battery if not closed before locking the screen.

-Facebook does a poor job at implementing contacts sync, and can corrupt the contacts database causing phones' contacts and messaging apps to go into force close loop.

 

I hope any of this helps!

 

-The Mark V.

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I don't have Samsung stuff so I can't test it but I'd be interested in seeing what happens after 

 

adb shell top -m 10 > log.txt

 

 

Is there any process which is regularly eating a lot of CPU on the process list? 

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made the process list slightly shorter for easier log browsing times
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From what i see. u need root. My guess are kernel wakelocks. They dont let the phone sleep in idle mode, which explains ur phone being hot while being in ur pocket. Root it and use Gsam battery apps to narrow down which wakelocks are most active and try to find a way to block them. Most of the time u will need  a  custom kernel to block wakelocks. 

Cheers!!

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I know that Motorola has a HUGE battery problem with the Moto Z. Tons and tons of reports of batteries heavily degradation towards the 1 year mark, me included. Happened on my old Moto G4 too, twice! But that is degradation, not what might just be CPU cycles with Linus. 

https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Moto-Z/MOTO-Z-EXTREME-BATTERY-DRAIN/td-p/3754926

https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Moto-Z/MOTO-Z-battery-life-terrible/td-p/3925826

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Hii, I'v had the same problem with my Sony Xperia Z2. In idle it was hot and the battery didnt last long, phone factory reset didnt fix the problem for me, but then my friend told me to do a factory reset with PC software and that actualy did it. Now my phone works just fine. Maybe your should try this if there is something like Sony companion but for samsung phones. Would like to hear from you if this fixed it!

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I have the g s9 plus as well, and I had this problem. Here are some things I did to fix it. Change everything on your current phone to default. Like the screen res, the location, the performance mode. If not then, I have no idea why your phone is doing this. Maybe you got it too hot at one point or another

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Hi @LinusTech for me the battery drain on an old Samsung was alleviated by switching from push notifications to a less frequent (every 30 minute) check on any email app I used, specifically outlook and Gmail. Had the same issue for years over a few models. 

Never had the drain problem when I switched to an LG or since switching to Pixel 2, but all Samsung's I've used previously forced me to change email off push notifications. No idea if this will help, but I remembered it having see the vid on YT so registered here to say, just in case. 

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On 9/8/2018 at 2:08 PM, GabenJr said:

We take some of the most common apps of 2018 and load them on to a Samsung Galaxy S9 Plus and a Google Pixel 2 XL to see why my Samsung phone always seems to overheat and run out of battery.

 

 

Buy a Samsung Galaxy S9+:

On Amazon: http://geni.us/KjgSwE

On Newegg: http://geni.us/L0J4

 

Buy a Pixel 2 XL:

On Amazon: http://geni.us/dheebA

On Newegg: http://geni.us/6ZEB

You should go to your app section and check the battery usage on those apps I love seen gear take up 12 percent while I never used it but it might help you out

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I am having the same problem with my Samsung galaxy s7 edge for a while, I know the phone is pretty dated but my experience is just like how Linus describes it. My battery is running out so fast when I don't use it, but when I am gaming or watching videos online, the battery doesn't run out extremely fast. I am just speculating but might it be that, because the phone is hot all the time the lithium-ion battery might lose its capacity much faster than the batteries at the other brands?

Please feel free to suggest your opinions about my idea.

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I'm sorry I don't have the time to read trough this atm.

Did you actually find your problem Linus?

 

Any other solutions that worked for other people?

I have been having the same problem on my old S4 and S5 but have it also on my ulefone armor 2. I suspect it is because I'm always connected and have push notifications on for email etc. 

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Yeah, I've got a Note 9 upgrade from a Note 3, and it's lasting longer than the 3! So not sure what app/physical fault it may be. But then again, I'm super aggressive in my use case on app closing/wifi/bluetooth/data/screen brightness etc. Phone should last me 2 days of use if I don't freak out at 50% and plug the charger in. 🤣

 

So IMO must be one of the Apps (even if Samsing/Android stock) that Linus (and others) use. That at least might help narrow down the source of the problem?

 

PS, Samsung also does the "optimise phone once a day" thing. TBH I turned that off instantly. ;)

 

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