How to upgrade hp pro 6300 MT power supply or HP Elite 8200 sff (fix)

[Mr.Yuck]

19 hours ago, FPS god said:

OK, fantastic. Now that your adapter is exactly wired like mine, go to my post on the first page and see where I talk about cutting the black cable on my adapter and attaching it to the green TAC cable of the CPU cooler. In your case, that black cable I'm talking about is yellow. simply cut your yellow cable from here https://imgur.com/qlHYwlJ and attach it to the CPU cooler.

Ok, everything is good now. No more nagging F1. TYVM

[MyNameWontFi]

8 hours ago, killer_bunny said:

Just upgraded my HP 800G1 (Haswell) to an aftermarket PSU.

Everything works great, but I'm having issues getting rid of the "515" fan error code at the start.

 

I tried jumping the "TAC" wire off the P2 connector, which originally was white, to the "TACH" wire on the CHFAN2 (rear fan) connector, which is grey.

And I get 2 codes instead  - The "515" PSU fan error, and also a "512" Chassis fan error. If I try and jump of the CPU's 4-pin fan connector, I have the same issue (2 error code, 515 and I think it was 511)

Anyone have any suggestions?

 

Thanks for any help.

Simply attaching a wire to the Chassis fan should not be giving you Chassis fan errors, as long as the fan is correctly plugged in. Are you sure the TACH cable is grey on your Haswell PC? I haven't dealt with that specific model, so things might be a little different, I don't know. Sending a few photos might help me better understand the situation. 

[killer_bunny]

1 hour ago, FPS god said:

Simply attaching a wire to the Chassis fan should not be giving you Chassis fan errors, as long as the fan is correctly plugged in. Are you sure the TACH cable is grey on your Haswell PC? I haven't dealt with that specific model, so things might be a little different, I don't know. Sending a few photos might help me better understand the situation. 

Yeah I messed up - I  spliced a wire into the (OEM white) tach wire on the P2 plug instead of replacing it, so it was still connected on the ATX 24pin adapter side.

I cut the (OEM white) tach wire at the 24 ATX adapter, ran it to the grey PWM fan connector (as you described) and it works now.

 

Thanks for your help, no more errors!

 

[PaceyIV]

On 1/26/2019 at 1:29 AM, Tristerin said:

A normal length GPU (2 fan) cannot fit in there unless its SINGLE slot.  The CPU cooler will block this application.  I have the HP Pro 6300 MT completely modded the F out.  Best GPU you can put in it with the stock PSU (320w lite on) is a GTX 1060.  After that you have to upgrade PSU with the above cablemod. 

I've just received the HP Elite 8300 CMT with i5.

For now I don't want to change the PSU (320 W). You say that the best GPU I can install in this case is a GTX 1060 with the 2 sata to 6 pin cable adapter . Which model? 6GB or only 3? Single Fan? OC? Mini? I'm quite confused with all the available models.

 

[Tristerin]

5 minutes ago, PaceyIV said:

I've just received the HP Elite 8300 CMT with i5.

For now I don't want to change the PSU (320 W). You say that the best GPU I can install in this case is a GTX 1060 with the 2 sata to 6 pin cable adapter . Which model? 6GB or only 3? Single Fan? OC? Mini? I'm quite confused with all the available models.

 

2x Sata to 6 pin twice (if that is what your card needs).  I.E. You have 2 sata rails coming off the mobo due to the proprietary design.  One of the Sata rails use 2x of the sata power to the pinout you need, and if you have a 2 pin requirement the second 2x sata to pinout needs to come from the SECOND Sata rail (hope that makes sense) - this is all of course if your card you select needs 2x power plugs in it.

 

It has to be a single fan mini variant because you wont clear the stock heat sink. 

 

You also want to disconnect the ODD, and any extra HDD's/SSD's you aren't using as the i5 3470 + GTX 1060 and the rest of the power requirements will hit right near the max of that PSU, and while an ODD and HDD etc aren't much, you will be using up that PSU's limit quickly.

[MyNameWontFi]

1 hour ago, PaceyIV said:

On 1/25/2019 at 7:29 PM, Tristerin said:

A normal length GPU (2 fan) cannot fit in there unless its SINGLE slot.  The CPU cooler will block this application.  I have the HP Pro 6300 MT completely modded the F out.  Best GPU you can put in it with the stock PSU (320w lite on) is a GTX 1060.  After that you have to upgrade PSU with the above cablemod. 

I've just received the HP Elite 8300 CMT with i5.

For now I don't want to change the PSU (320 W). You say that the best GPU I can install in this case is a GTX 1060 with the 2 sata to 6 pin cable adapter . Which model? 6GB or only 3? Single Fan? OC? Mini? I'm quite confused with all the available models.

Tristerin is right but that only applies to HP 6300 MT owners. The HP 8300 CMT has enough room for any GPU, You're not really forced to buy a single fan GPU. https://youtu.be/fUbocXdrFfw?t=972.

You can upgrade your PSU and buy whatever GPU you want, but since you don't want to replace your 320W PSU, I would recommend buying something like a GTX 1660 or a GTX 1660Ti. Both outperform the GTX 1060 while consuming the same amount of power. I would buy a new PSU though if I were you, a 500W PSU can be found for around $40

 

 

 

[Tristerin]

15 minutes ago, FPS god said:

Tristerin is right but that only applies to HP 6300 MT owners. The HP 8300 CMT has enough room for any GPU, You're not really forced to buy a single fan GPU. https://youtu.be/fUbocXdrFfw?t=972.

You can upgrade your PSU and buy whatever GPU you want, but since you don't want to replace your 320W PSU, I would recommend buying something like a GTX 1660 or a GTX 1660Ti. Both outperform the GTX 1060 while consuming the same amount of power. I would buy a new PSU though if I were you, a 500W PSU can be found for around $40

 

 

 

I noticed the CMT but figured it was just the MicroTower

 

BTW - I no longer get Chassis Fan Errors and have zero fan headers connected on the mobo.  Not sure why.  For the first week after doing my closed loop on it, it gave the error at boot up.  No longer does it.  Didn't have to put any dummy fan headers on it.

[_Massimo_]

Some months ago i modded my HP 6300 MT in order to upgrade the GPU. But I still hated to have a single fan (loud and hot) in 2019 so... I've found the right one: dual fan - right temperatures... the KFA2 1070 OC mini. It's a perfect fit with no mods needed on CPU cooler. A couple of pictures:

[proplayer471]

I know this thread is quite old but if someone can help me that would be great.

I have a HP Compaq Pro 6300MT, with a 320W stock PSU. I have been planning to upgrade the PSU, but have trouble finding this adapter that you are using. I am currently living in Germany, can you tell me where I can find it? The closest thing I found is this, however the images provided with this do not include the small circuit board that you have. Is that board really necessary, or can everything be achieved without it?

I was just confused a little and thought I'd ask here.

On a side note, can you tell me which of the two options should I go for if I want to 1080p gaming at med/high settings:

• Stock 320W PSU and add a GTX 1050Ti or a GTX 1650.
• Upgrade PSU to 500W and add a RX 570.

Looking forwards to your suggestions.

[MyNameWontFi]

1 hour ago, proplayer471 said:

I know this thread is quite old but if someone can help me that would be great.

I have a HP Compaq Pro 6300MT, with a 320W stock PSU. I have been planning to upgrade the PSU, but have trouble finding this adapter that you are using. I am currently living in Germany, can you tell me where I can find it? The closest thing I found is this, however the images provided with this do not include the small circuit board that you have. Is that board really necessary, or can everything be achieved without it?

I was just confused a little and thought I'd ask here.

On a side note, can you tell me which of the two options should I go for if I want to 1080p gaming at med/high settings:

• Stock 320W PSU and add a GTX 1050Ti or a GTX 1650.
• Upgrade PSU to 500W and add a RX 570.

Looking forwards to your suggestions.

That adapter looks exactly like the one I've used, and you can see that it does have the small circuit board wrapped with a black plastic protective sheet. 

The 1050Ti is a very bad value and I would seriously avoid it. The 1650 is both more expensive and slower than the RX 570, but you don't need a new PSU for it.

There is also a third option. The 1660/1660 Super consumes around 120W at full load and has a total System power consumption of around 240W. So, you can buy a $4 dual SATA to 6 pin cable, and use the 1660 or 1660 Super with your 320W, as long as you don't overclock the GPU you would be fine. So, you're free to choose any of those 3 options. I would personally go with 3rd first if I can afford the 1660. The RX 570 route would be second, and the 1650 would be the last.

 

[proplayer471]

43 minutes ago, FPS god said:

That adapter looks exactly like the one I've used, and you can see that it does have the small circuit board wrapped with a black plastic protective sheet. 

The 1050Ti is a very bad value and I would seriously avoid it. The 1650 is both more expensive and slower than the RX 570, but you don't need a new PSU for it.

There is also a third option. The 1660/1660 Super consumes around 120W at full load and has a total System power consumption of around 240W. So, you can buy a $4 dual SATA to 6 pin cable, and use the 1660 or 1660 Super with your 320W, as long as you don't overclock the GPU you would be fine. So, you're free to choose any of those 3 options. I would personally go with 3rd first if I can afford the 1660. The RX 570 route would be second, and the 1650 would be the last.

 

Thank you for the detailed reply. Unfortunately the 1660 is a little bit high than my budget, I am planning to keep everything below €200. I did not know about this dual SATA to 6pin option. Is this stable enough to not cause any bottlenecks, and more importantly is it safe?

Also can I use this same cable to plug in the RX 570 without buying a new PSU first?

Thanks.

[MyNameWontFi]

25 minutes ago, proplayer471 said:

Thank you for the detailed reply. Unfortunately the 1660 is a little bit high than my budget, I am planning to keep everything below €200. I did not know about this dual SATA to 6pin option. Is this stable enough to not cause any bottlenecks, and more importantly is it safe?

Also can I use this same cable to plug in the RX 570 without buying a new PSU first?

Thanks.

The RX570 pulls slightly more than 150W and the total system power consumption would be very close to 300W, and that would be pushing it a little bit. So, in your case, it is not recommended to use the dual SATA to 8 pin adapter with an RX 570. 

[MyNameWontFi]

On 11/18/2019 at 6:35 AM, FPS god said:

Thank you for the detailed reply. Unfortunately the 1660 is a little bit high than my budget, I am planning to keep everything below €200. I did not know about this dual SATA to 6pin option. Is this stable enough to not cause any bottlenecks, and more importantly is it safe?

Also can I use this same cable to plug in the RX 570 without buying a new PSU first?

Nvidia just released The GTX1650 Super. It's faster than the RX570, it's priced around $160, and it consumes around 100W. So, if you haven't bought a new PSU yet, buy the 1650 Super and a dual SATA to 6pin adapter. The card will pull 75W from the motherboard's PCIe slot and the rest(15W) from the adapter. The total system power consumption will be around 200W.

Here a review of the 1650 super. 

 

[proplayer471]

18 hours ago, FPS god said:

Nvidia just released The GTX1650 Super. It's faster than the RX570, it's priced around $160, and it consumes around 100W. So, if you haven't bought a new PSU yet, buy the 1650 Super and a dual SATA to 6pin adapter. The card will pull 75W from the motherboard's PCIe slot and the rest(15W) from the adapter. The total system power consumption will be around 200W.

Here a review of the 1650 super. 

 

Yes I have been looking into options for now. I researched into the RX 570 and it seems to be a viable option, but one thing that I am wondering is whether it will be able to fit into the case or not. HP specifies a maximum PCIe x16 card length of 167mm, whereas most RX 570 models are around 240mm, so I am wondering if it will be blocked by the CPU cooler. Can you give any insight into this?

As for the 1650 Super, yes it looks nice, but unfortunately I can't find it online anywhere for sale so I think its not out in Europe yet. I will wait around a month to see when it comes out and if its at a reasonable price or not.

thanks for your replies.

[MyNameWontFi]

3 hours ago, proplayer471 said:

HP specifies a maximum PCIe x16 card length of 167mm, whereas most RX 570 models are around 240mm, so I am wondering if it will be blocked by the CPU cooler. Can you give any insight into this?

Oh I forgot that most RX 570s are over 200mm in length so, you're right about the RX 570 not fitting in your case.

HP specifies a GPU length of 167mm, but anything around 182mm and under will fit. You can find GPUs length on Techpowerup GPU database. Here's a video of 182mm GPU being fit into a HP 6300 SFF. https://youtu.be/r-TIELH9jXU?t=279 (Ignore that that 's a 6300 SFF PC, cause HP uses the same motherboard in 6300 MT PCs too.) 

[Rado77]

Hi guys, maybe stupid q...I have 6300 SFF with original 240w psu, i5 cpu with max consumption 77w. If I buy GTX 1650 which has consumption 75w and is powered only from pcie slot + ssd drive + 2x4gb ram...looks that my 240w psu can handle it right?

What do you think guys? I dont care now that GTX 1650 isnt low profile, I plan to run this comp without case - dyi solution with wood...

Coolermaster's psu calculator shows me 236 watts total...so it looks promissing

[MyNameWontFi]

53 minutes ago, Rado77 said:

Hi guys, maybe stupid q...I have 6300 SFF with original 240w psu, i5 cpu with max consumption 77w. If I buy GTX 1650 which has consumption 75w and is powered only from pcie slot + ssd drive + 2x4gb ram...looks that my 240w psu can handle it right?

What do you think guys? I dont care now that GTX 1650 isnt low profile, I plan to run this comp without case - dyi solution with wood...

Coolermaster's psu calculator shows me 236 watts total...so it looks promissing

The GTX1650 videos that I see on youtube show a total system consumption of under 150W. So, you'll be fine.

[Rado77]

Thank you very much 1st I thought about psu upgrade and so on, but finaly you guys mentioned here this gtx 1650 with low power consumption (and good performance for my needs). Thank you very much for all information here guys! Good work with cabling mods!

[yonkhuan]

 

On 4/28/2019 at 9:52 AM, FPS god said:

OK, fantastic. Now that your adapter is exactly wired like mine, go to my post on the first page and see where I talk about cutting the black cable on my adapter and attaching it to the green TAC cable of the CPU cooler. In your case, that black cable I'm talking about is yellow. simply cut your yellow cable from here https://imgur.com/qlHYwlJ and attach it to the CPU cooler.

hi,

I have an HP 8200 Elite Tower which I recently changed it's power supply.
The computer is working great, but when I turn on the computer, I get a 515 power supply fan not detected error.
I can press F1 to continue anyway, but it's really annoying.
I did some research but all the diagrams are a bit different from what I have.

Which wire should I connect to which?

I found this schema:

 

 

[MyNameWontFi]

27 minutes ago, yonkhuan said:

Which wire should I connect to which?

Just like I said in my first post, the error will disappear on it's own, and it happened to another guy as well. I think there is a certain number of times that that error shows up then it goes away, or the error goes away when you clear the CMOS. I used the adapter on another HP PC without connecting the black cable on the CPU cooler and I didn't get that error. In fact, I had the cable completely removed from the adapter. 

 

If you still wanna go ahead. Cut that cable from there https://imgur.com/a/p2rE7aH and connect it to the green tac cable of your CPU cooler. 

[yonkhuan]

17 minutes ago, FPS god said:

Just like I said in my first post, the error will disappear on it's own, and it happened to another guy as well. I think there is a certain number of times that that error shows up then it goes away, or the error goes away when you clear the CMOS. I used the adapter on another HP PC without connecting the black cable on the CPU cooler and I didn't get that error. In fact, I had the cable completely removed from the adapter. 

 

If you still wanna go ahead. Cut that cable from there https://imgur.com/a/p2rE7aH and connect it to the green tac cable of your CPU cooler. 

Izit correct as below pic.

[MyNameWontFi]

14 minutes ago, yonkhuan said:

Izit correct as below pic

yes.

[yonkhuan]

hi all and FPS god.

 

Correction

 

For my problem should be cut the blue cable (24 pin)  and connect it to the green tac cable of your CPU cooler as below picture.

 

Thanks FPS god

 

[kingdie]

Hi!,

 

Im upgrading a 6300 SFF but i dont get the computer power up. The new PSU its a Mars MPII550 of 550W and the GPU its a MSI GeForce GTX 1050Ti.

Here are some photos of my cable:

 

 

Here is the p2 connector of the adapter:

 

 

The p2 connector of the original PSU

 

 

And the motherboard, i have connected a 4 pin connector from the new PSU on the up side. I think its ok.

 

Can you help me?

 

Thanks in advance!!

 

 

[Supersploder]

On 3/4/2018 at 9:37 AM, FPS god said:

Hi, first I apologize for any grammar mistakes, English is not my native language, so i wanted to upgrade my HP pro 6300's power supply to something more powerful but the motherboard gets power from a weird p2 connector and a 6 pin connector instead of a standard 24 pin power connector. after doing a little bit of research, i managed to stick in an EVGA 500w PSU and everything is working fine so far, if anyone wants to know how i did it, here is what you need to do.

 

- buy a 24 pin to 6 pin adapter cable ( around $10) https://i.imgur.com/mAH1oTQ.jpg but they are made for z220/z230 workstations only. so, you'll have to easily change the pins layout of that white p2 connector for the adapter to work with your HP pro 6300. (this is the one I bought   https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B075242NGZ/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1)

 

- remove all 4 cables from that white p2 connector and compare the cables with the ones from your old PSU.

your old PSU will have 4 or 5 cables on that p2 connector ( grey, green, white, white with red stripes, and sometimes black) .

the adapter will have (yellow, green, red, black)

 

ok, then put the yellow cable back in where the grey one was and put the green one back in where the green one was and put the black one back in where the pure white one was. and put the red one exactly next to where you put the yellow one. 

 

ok now turn on your pc and that's it.

 

if you get an error on startup saying that the PSU fan is not detected, press F1 to ignore it and continue, but if you get tired of the error every time you start your pc and want to fix it, here is what to do.

 

remember the black cable you inserted where the pure white one was, that cable is a TAC cable, it sends the PSU fan speed readings to motherboard but since the new PSU's wiring is not the same as the old HP one, the motherboard has no clue. so, you'll need to cut that black cable from where the cable meets with the 24 pin connector thingy (just to get enough length of it) https://i.imgur.com/n3W9MG5.jpg and then you'll need to attach it to the green TAC cable of the CPU fan connector and this will trick the motherboard into thinking that the CPU fan it is sensing is the PSU fan and you won't get any errors. Good luck

https://i.imgur.com/63KGBe5.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/DRN6twk.jpg

Edit : The fan error stopped showing up after a few days or so without doing any modification (that fan error is probably set up to show up a certain number of times). 

 

Edit 2: Another option would be buying a dual SATA to 6 pin or 8 pin cable but it's not really recommended for anything above a GTX1060 cause these prebuilt PCs come with only 320W PSU, here's how it works https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkmsLxnCfrQ

 

Edit 3:  Here's a diagram of how exactly my adapter is wired https://imgur.com/20grXCC. For those that have differently colored adapters, you can still follow this diagram but you gotta check where your wires are going exactly.

 

 

I managed to get an EVGA 750w G3 running in my HP Compaq Pro 6300 MT, i got a different adapter than the one in the picture but it still worked since it was for z220/z230. My red and green cables were different so its important to follow the instructions to the pictures and every detail of what they give you when rewireing the white connector. Another important thing to note is despite the fact that it is a fatter case you can only put short graphics cards in because it collides with the cpu cooler and you cant get a new one, planning on getting a Gigabyte 1070 mini or somthing to go with with the i7 3770 i put in it, something with 1 fan.

Had to mod case a bit too to fit in psu and theres a gap but thats fine.