Posted August 26, 2017 Just now, charbel1011 said: Is it possible to get a defective cpu that won't transfer the heat to the cooler? or it's impossible? It's possible to get faulty heatsinks. I've never heard of cpus being the problem in terms of heat transfer but if it was broken inside who knows what could happen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 26, 2017 Unless it's defying thermodynamics, no. It might be impeded from the optimal, but not wholly stopped. Cor Caeruleus Reborn v6 Spoiler CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700K CPU Cooler: be quiet! - PURE ROCK Thermal Compound: Arctic Silver - 5 High-Density Polysynthetic Silver 3.5g Thermal Paste Motherboard: ASRock Z370 Extreme4 Memory: G.Skill TridentZ RGB 2x8GB 3200/14 Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive Storage: Samsung - 960 EVO 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive Storage: Western Digital - Blue 2TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive Storage: Western Digital - BLACK SERIES 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive Video Card: EVGA - 970 SSC ACX (1080 is in RMA) Case: Fractal Design - Define R5 w/Window (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA P2 750W with CableMod blue/black Pro Series Optical Drive: LG - WH16NS40 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit and Linux Mint Serena Keyboard: Logitech - G910 Orion Spectrum RGB Wired Gaming Keyboard Mouse: Logitech - G502 Wired Optical Mouse Headphones: Logitech - G430 7.1 Channel Headset Speakers: Logitech - Z506 155W 5.1ch Speakers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 27, 2017 Author 7 minutes ago, ARikozuM said: Unless it's defying thermodynamics, no. It might be impeded from the optimal, but not wholly stopped. Honestly i don't know i have the i7 6700k over a year and i have the phantek PHTC14PE and my temps were great 26c idle and 50c gaming now my temps 35c idle and gaming 70c like i get it it might be summer heat but still too much i tried reapplying the thermal paste didn't work so i made the order for the h100iv2 the first water cooler i ever get so were going to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 27, 2017 3 minutes ago, charbel1011 said: Honestly i don't know i have the i7 6700k over a year and i have the phantek PHTC14PE and my temps were great 26c idle and 50c gaming now my temps 35c idle and gaming 70c like i get it it might be summer heat but still too much i tried reapplying the thermal paste didn't work so i made the order for the h100iv2 the first water cooler i ever get so were going to see. Please let us know, I'm interested to see how that works out. The h100i v2 is really reliable, so hopefully the issue will be resolved. HEADS UP, THIS ACCOUNT IS INACTIVE NOW I'm keeping everything else the way it was for anyone who might check out my answers in future, but I won't be using LTT. Don't forget to quote me when replying to me! Please explain your question fully, so I can answer it fully. PSU Tier List Cooler Tier List SSD Tier List My Specs Below! Spoiler My PC: CPU: Ryzen 5 1600 @ 3.2GHz Cooler: Stock Wraith Spire RAM: G.Skill Trident Z RGB 3000mHz 16GB DDR4 (2x8GB) RGB Motherboard: Asus ROG Strix X370-F Gaming ATX SSD: Crucial MX500 500GB 2.5" HDD: Western Digital Blue 1TB 7200rpm GPU: Asus ROG Strix OC GTX 1060 6GB Case: Cooler Master H500P PSU: Corsair RM650i 650W 80+ Gold Fully Modular OS: Windows 10 Home 64-bit Fans: 4x Cooler Master Masterfan Pro 120 Air Balance Spoiler Potato Laptop (Samsung Series 5 Ultrabook, 2013): CPU: Intel Ivy Bridge i5 3337U @ 1.8GHz RAM: 8GB DDR3 2133mhz SODIMM (1x4GB Samsung, 1x4GB Kingston) SSD: Kingston 24GB SSD (originally for caching) HDD: HGST 500GB 5400rpm GPU: Intel HD 4000 Graphics OS: Windows 10 Home 64-bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 27, 2017 Author Just now, JaegerB said: Please let us know, I'm interested to see how that works out. The h100i v2 is really reliable, so hopefully the issue will be resolved. But i don't think i have a defective cpu like that's very rare Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 27, 2017 Just now, charbel1011 said: But i don't think i have a defective cpu like that's very rare Not only that, but it's impossible. No CPU defection I know of could cause higher temps without showing up somewhere else. Are your voltages the same? HEADS UP, THIS ACCOUNT IS INACTIVE NOW I'm keeping everything else the way it was for anyone who might check out my answers in future, but I won't be using LTT. Don't forget to quote me when replying to me! Please explain your question fully, so I can answer it fully. PSU Tier List Cooler Tier List SSD Tier List My Specs Below! Spoiler My PC: CPU: Ryzen 5 1600 @ 3.2GHz Cooler: Stock Wraith Spire RAM: G.Skill Trident Z RGB 3000mHz 16GB DDR4 (2x8GB) RGB Motherboard: Asus ROG Strix X370-F Gaming ATX SSD: Crucial MX500 500GB 2.5" HDD: Western Digital Blue 1TB 7200rpm GPU: Asus ROG Strix OC GTX 1060 6GB Case: Cooler Master H500P PSU: Corsair RM650i 650W 80+ Gold Fully Modular OS: Windows 10 Home 64-bit Fans: 4x Cooler Master Masterfan Pro 120 Air Balance Spoiler Potato Laptop (Samsung Series 5 Ultrabook, 2013): CPU: Intel Ivy Bridge i5 3337U @ 1.8GHz RAM: 8GB DDR3 2133mhz SODIMM (1x4GB Samsung, 1x4GB Kingston) SSD: Kingston 24GB SSD (originally for caching) HDD: HGST 500GB 5400rpm GPU: Intel HD 4000 Graphics OS: Windows 10 Home 64-bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 27, 2017 Author 3 minutes ago, JaegerB said: Not only that, but it's impossible. No CPU defection I know of could cause higher temps without showing up somewhere else. Are your voltages the same? How can i check my voltage? and they should be the same e.e? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 27, 2017 5 minutes ago, charbel1011 said: But i don't think i have a defective cpu like that's very rare Bad temp sensor? Cor Caeruleus Reborn v6 Spoiler CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700K CPU Cooler: be quiet! - PURE ROCK Thermal Compound: Arctic Silver - 5 High-Density Polysynthetic Silver 3.5g Thermal Paste Motherboard: ASRock Z370 Extreme4 Memory: G.Skill TridentZ RGB 2x8GB 3200/14 Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive Storage: Samsung - 960 EVO 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive Storage: Western Digital - Blue 2TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive Storage: Western Digital - BLACK SERIES 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive Video Card: EVGA - 970 SSC ACX (1080 is in RMA) Case: Fractal Design - Define R5 w/Window (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA P2 750W with CableMod blue/black Pro Series Optical Drive: LG - WH16NS40 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit and Linux Mint Serena Keyboard: Logitech - G910 Orion Spectrum RGB Wired Gaming Keyboard Mouse: Logitech - G502 Wired Optical Mouse Headphones: Logitech - G430 7.1 Channel Headset Speakers: Logitech - Z506 155W 5.1ch Speakers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 27, 2017 Just now, charbel1011 said: How can i check my voltage? and they should be the same e.e? Your voltage should be no more than 1.35 - 1.4 volts. You can check this with software like HWMonitor and CPUZ. Just now, ARikozuM said: Bad temp sensor? That is actually entirely possible. I don't know if he's got a Ryzen or Intel, but I heard that Ryzen cores can have issues with temperature sensing, on the level of being 20+ degrees off or something. HEADS UP, THIS ACCOUNT IS INACTIVE NOW I'm keeping everything else the way it was for anyone who might check out my answers in future, but I won't be using LTT. Don't forget to quote me when replying to me! Please explain your question fully, so I can answer it fully. PSU Tier List Cooler Tier List SSD Tier List My Specs Below! Spoiler My PC: CPU: Ryzen 5 1600 @ 3.2GHz Cooler: Stock Wraith Spire RAM: G.Skill Trident Z RGB 3000mHz 16GB DDR4 (2x8GB) RGB Motherboard: Asus ROG Strix X370-F Gaming ATX SSD: Crucial MX500 500GB 2.5" HDD: Western Digital Blue 1TB 7200rpm GPU: Asus ROG Strix OC GTX 1060 6GB Case: Cooler Master H500P PSU: Corsair RM650i 650W 80+ Gold Fully Modular OS: Windows 10 Home 64-bit Fans: 4x Cooler Master Masterfan Pro 120 Air Balance Spoiler Potato Laptop (Samsung Series 5 Ultrabook, 2013): CPU: Intel Ivy Bridge i5 3337U @ 1.8GHz RAM: 8GB DDR3 2133mhz SODIMM (1x4GB Samsung, 1x4GB Kingston) SSD: Kingston 24GB SSD (originally for caching) HDD: HGST 500GB 5400rpm GPU: Intel HD 4000 Graphics OS: Windows 10 Home 64-bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 27, 2017 Author 18 minutes ago, ARikozuM said: Bad temp sensor? I have intel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 27, 2017 Author 16 minutes ago, JaegerB said: Your voltage should be no more than 1.35 - 1.4 volts. You can check this with software like HWMonitor and CPUZ. That is actually entirely possible. I don't know if he's got a Ryzen or Intel, but I heard that Ryzen cores can have issues with temperature sensing, on the level of being 20+ degrees off or something. Where the voltage excalty located?? In hwmonitor can someone take a screenshot or something so i can see it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 27, 2017 TIM, or thermal compound, can become worse over time, it's possible the TIM between the cooler and IHS isn't as good anymore. It is also possible to have bad TIM under the IHS (as in a defect, not just the less than ideal stuff intel uses) but very very rare. I would say it's more likely the TIM between the IHS and cooler has just become old, what one did you use initially? Yours faithfully Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 27, 2017 Author 2 minutes ago, Lord Nicoll said: TIM, or thermal compound, can become worse over time, it's possible the TIM between the cooler and IHS isn't as good anymore. It is also possible to have bad TIM under the IHS (as in a defect, not just the less than ideal stuff intel uses) but very very rare. I would say it's more likely the TIM between the IHS and cooler has just become old, what one did you use initially? I had the cooler only for one year? And what do you mean the IHs and cooler become old is that something should i worry about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 27, 2017 Just now, charbel1011 said: I had the cooler only for one year? And what do you mean the IHs and cooler become old is that something should i worry about? The thermal compound between them becomes old, not the cooler or IHS. I personally overclock hard and dirty and change my pastes when they start to be less effective, usually every 6 months. Yours faithfully Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 27, 2017 Author Just now, Lord Nicoll said: The thermal compound between them becomes old, not the cooler or IHS. I personally overclock hard and dirty and change my pastes when they start to be less effective, usually every 6 months. But as i said i did change the thermal paste and the temps are the same i did order the h100iv2 ima try the water cooling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 27, 2017 Author 34 minutes ago, JaegerB said: Not only that, but it's impossible. No CPU defection I know of could cause higher temps without showing up somewhere else. Are your voltages the same? I just checked my core voltages with cpu-z and its 1.36v is that bad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 27, 2017 Just now, charbel1011 said: But as i said i did change the thermal paste and the temps are the same i did order the h100iv2 ima try the water cooling What paste did you use, not all TIMs are the same, is it the same tube you used before (even the same brand can vary a bit from batch to batch) However if it's the same, its probably the TIM under the IHS, not really much you can do about that. I wouldn't suggest delidding, there is a language barrier here, you don't seem that into PCs and I doubt the CPU is that overclocked. Yours faithfully Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 27, 2017 3 minutes ago, charbel1011 said: I just checked my core voltages with cpu-z and its 1.36v is that bad? That's completely normal. HEADS UP, THIS ACCOUNT IS INACTIVE NOW I'm keeping everything else the way it was for anyone who might check out my answers in future, but I won't be using LTT. Don't forget to quote me when replying to me! Please explain your question fully, so I can answer it fully. PSU Tier List Cooler Tier List SSD Tier List My Specs Below! Spoiler My PC: CPU: Ryzen 5 1600 @ 3.2GHz Cooler: Stock Wraith Spire RAM: G.Skill Trident Z RGB 3000mHz 16GB DDR4 (2x8GB) RGB Motherboard: Asus ROG Strix X370-F Gaming ATX SSD: Crucial MX500 500GB 2.5" HDD: Western Digital Blue 1TB 7200rpm GPU: Asus ROG Strix OC GTX 1060 6GB Case: Cooler Master H500P PSU: Corsair RM650i 650W 80+ Gold Fully Modular OS: Windows 10 Home 64-bit Fans: 4x Cooler Master Masterfan Pro 120 Air Balance Spoiler Potato Laptop (Samsung Series 5 Ultrabook, 2013): CPU: Intel Ivy Bridge i5 3337U @ 1.8GHz RAM: 8GB DDR3 2133mhz SODIMM (1x4GB Samsung, 1x4GB Kingston) SSD: Kingston 24GB SSD (originally for caching) HDD: HGST 500GB 5400rpm GPU: Intel HD 4000 Graphics OS: Windows 10 Home 64-bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 27, 2017 Author 8 minutes ago, Lord Nicoll said: What paste did you use, not all TIMs are the same, is it the same tube you used before (even the same brand can vary a bit from batch to batch) However if it's the same, its probably the TIM under the IHS, not really much you can do about that. I wouldn't suggest delidding, there is a language barrier here, you don't seem that into PCs and I doubt the CPU is that overclocked. Its not like im not into pcs im but in this situation theres nothing much to do to be honest and when you sayd the problem is under IHS should i return the cpu? Or no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 27, 2017 3 minutes ago, charbel1011 said: Its not like im not into pcs im but in this situation theres nothing much to do to be honest and when you sayd the problem is under IHS should i return the cpu? Or no? No, the "problem" isn't a defect, Intel is very much aware of this. It's a compromise between not having an IHS and having to solder the IHS, while it has problems, I prefer it but it costs more. Yours faithfully Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 27, 2017 Author 6 minutes ago, Lord Nicoll said: No, the "problem" isn't a defect, Intel is very much aware of this. It's a compromise between not having an IHS and having to solder the IHS, while it has problems, I prefer it but it costs more. Honestly im little bit confused u prefer what to return the cpu? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 27, 2017 2 minutes ago, charbel1011 said: Honestly im little bit confused u prefer what to return the cpu? Ugh, em, Don;t return the CPU, there is nothing defective in it, the thermal issues are normal for Intel. If you don't want the thermal issues buy AMD or X99. Yours faithfully Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 28, 2017 Author Which one to buy? h110i or x62? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
