AMD A12-9800 overclocked to 4.8 GHz with Wraith Cooler

[Curufinwe_wins]

11 minutes ago, patrickjp93 said:

 

 

It will require some hefty cooling, loud cooling at that if the whole package is 200W.

Ehh that heavily depends on the TIM and thickness of the heatspreader in use... 

 

If GPU's have proven anything it is the reminder of the large temperature improvement gained by omitting heat-spreaders (with a sufficiently large die that is).

 

Anyways the 9590 is pretty easy to cool quietly by mid-range water coolers and high end air coolers (same with overclocked x99 HEDT chips which can consume as much as 300W).

 

But your standard 212 evo won't do well (unless you are ok with running stock cooler type temps and noises...)

[patrickjp93]

1 hour ago, Curufinwe_wins said:

Ehh that heavily depends on the TIM and thickness of the heatspreader in use... 

 

If GPU's have proven anything it is the reminder of the large temperature improvement gained by omitting heat-spreaders (with a sufficiently large die that is).

 

Anyways the 9590 is pretty easy to cool quietly by mid-range water coolers and high end air coolers (same with overclocked x99 HEDT chips which can consume as much as 300W).

 

But your standard 212 evo won't do well (unless you are ok with running stock cooler type temps and noises...)

And you expect them to fit good cooling solutions for 200+W single packages into an XBox/PS form factor?

[Space Reptile]

all im seeing is 65w tdp , that is pretty fukn impressive for a high end APU , damn whatever amd did , they did a good thing esp since its a 4c/4t w/ 4.2ghz boost and an gpu in one thing , granted the gpu is meh to ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ at best , its still impressively low tdp 

 

(yet not a a sempron 2650 , that thing can be passive cooled so easely , you can run it w/ o heatsink and just a fan pointed at it , its ridiculous) 

[Curufinwe_wins]

18 minutes ago, patrickjp93 said:

And you expect them to fit good cooling solutions for 200+W single packages into an XBox/PS form factor?

No I don't. They could, but it would have to be a substantial increase in metal cost (and heatsink proportion).

 

 

 

[patrickjp93]

44 minutes ago, Space Reptile said:

all im seeing is 65w tdp , that is pretty fukn impressive for a high end APU , damn whatever amd did , they did a good thing esp since its a 4c/4t w/ 4.2ghz boost and an gpu in one thing , granted the gpu is meh to ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ at best , its still impressively low tdp 

 

(yet not a a sempron 2650 , that thing can be passive cooled so easely , you can run it w/ o heatsink and just a fan pointed at it , its ridiculous) 

Yup. Much of it comes from being able to shut off more parts of the CPU when not in use and half-pumping certain logic when not in a performance-constrained application.

 

HDL plays a part, but the bulk of innovations for lower TDPs in the last few years are based in shutting off what isn't needed.

[Prysin]

2 hours ago, patrickjp93 said:

Yup. Much of it comes from being able to shut off more parts of the CPU when not in use and half-pumping certain logic when not in a performance-constrained application.

 

HDL plays a part, but the bulk of innovations for lower TDPs in the last few years are based in shutting off what isn't needed.

or as AMD has done with their Kaveri APUs, regardless if locked or unlocked model, they force the CPU down to 3GHz flat during heavy iGPU load.

[NumLock21]

Zen isn't out yet and they're talking about Zen+, code name Gray Hawk. Runs on AM4+ and might use DDR4 + HBM, arrival...2019.

http://wccftech.com/amd-7nm-gray-hawk-apu/

[patrickjp93]

22 hours ago, Prysin said:

or as AMD has done with their Kaveri APUs, regardless if locked or unlocked model, they force the CPU down to 3GHz flat during heavy iGPU load.

We don't know how Bristol Ridge handles this yet, to be fair. If AMD gave users cTDP at the BIOS level, it would allow people to at least choose.

 

3 hours ago, NumLock21 said:

Zen isn't out yet and they're talking about Zen+, code name Gray Hawk. Runs on AM4+ and might use DDR4 + HBM, arrival...2019.

http://wccftech.com/amd-7nm-gray-hawk-apu/

Gotta get that share price up before the executives all jump ship.

[Prysin]

1 hour ago, patrickjp93 said:

We don't know how Bristol Ridge handles this yet, to be fair. If AMD gave users cTDP at the BIOS level, it would allow people to at least choose.

 

Gotta get that share price up before the executives all jump ship.

i have little faith that they wont lock it at 3GHz. Its Excavator after all, even if v2, its not going to miraculously make CMT and GCN cores efficient enough to run both at peak performance mode and still be within TDP limits

[Dabombinable]

3 minutes ago, Prysin said:

i have little faith that they wont lock it at 3GHz. Its Excavator after all, even if v2, its not going to miraculously make CMT and GCN cores efficient enough to run both at peak performance mode and still be within TDP limits

TBH, I'd be happy with an APU as long as it could actually at least run at its base clock when either it or the GPU is under load all of the. Instead of running at sub base clock speeds after 5 or so minutes.

[NumLock21]

Some leaked info on AMD's enthusiast X370 chipset

• Have 32 Gen 3 lanes for CFX or SLI at x16/x16
• Board makers can add PLX for additional lanes at additional cost
• AMD Zen cpus will have unlocked multipliers

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