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Posted · Original PosterOP

Witch desktop would you choose. Should i go with AMD or Intel.

Yes I know that you can build your own for cheaper. I have a $3,000 budget on the desktop

Looking at this one, anything i need to change/customize let me know. https://www.ibuypower.com/Store/AMD-Creator-Daily-Deal

https://www.ibuypower.com/Store/Mothers-Day-Sale-AMD-Ryzen-9

https://www.ibuypower.com/Store/AMD-Creator-Pro

 

 

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you answered the question pretty well already.. what are you trying to do with? what is the budget?

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Just now, bmx6454 said:

you answered the question pretty well already.. what are you trying to do with? what is the budget?

Editing the post rn

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2 minutes ago, JayR said:

Witch desktop would you choose. Yes I know that you can build your own for cheaper.

 

 

Prebuilts? Two ways to go. Boutique and upgradable or non upgradable.  Non-upgradable might as well go full Monty and get one of those SFF systems.   CorsairONE kind of thing.

 

Boutique upgradable I don’t know.  Lot of choices. IBuyPower had a funky rep after that cooler fiasco.  Not sure if iBuyPower falls into upgradable or non-upgradable.


 


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7 minutes ago, JayR said:

Witch desktop would you choose. Should i go with AMD or Intel.

Yes I know that you can build your own for cheaper. I have a $3,000 budget on the desktop

Looking at this one, anything i need to change/customize let me know. https://www.ibuypower.com/Store/AMD-Creator-Daily-Deal

 

 

 

that thing should do literally anything you throw at it, although the ram is a bit slow imo. you are spending a lot more money to get it pre-built, but if your fine with that, then go for it.

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6 minutes ago, bmx6454 said:

that thing should do literally anything you throw at it, although the ram is a bit slow imo. you are spending a lot more money to get it pre-built, but if your fine with that, then go for it.

Can you explain how the ram is slow it says ddr4 32gb

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15 minutes ago, JayR said:

Witch desktop would you choose. Should i go with AMD or Intel.

Yes I know that you can build your own for cheaper. I have a $3,000 budget on the desktop

Looking at this one, anything i need to change/customize let me know. https://www.ibuypower.com/Store/AMD-Creator-Daily-Deal

 

 

 

Asus tuff gaming x570 is rated tier E on the motherboard tierlist.  You can fit a 3950 in it but it won’t power it reliably.  Also 3000mhz memory?

 

this is looking like a bad idea.


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2 minutes ago, JayR said:

Can you explain how the ram is slow it says ddr4 32gb

it's only 3000mhz, which is kinda slow at this point, especially with a 3950x.

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1 minute ago, JayR said:

Can you explain how the ram is slow it says ddr4 32gb

It says ddr4 32gb 3000mhz. Ddr4 is what kind, 32gb is how much (a fairly large amount) 3000mhz is how fast.  3200 is reasonable if not quick, 3600mhz is recommended for ryzen2


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2 minutes ago, Bombastinator said:

It says ddr4 32gb 3000mhz. Ddr4 is what kind, 32gb is how much (a fairly large amount) 3000mhz is how fast.  3200 is reasonable if not quick, 3600mhz is recommended for ryzen2

would 16gb of ddr4 4000 be better than 32gb of 3200?

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10 minutes ago, JayR said:

would 16gb of ddr4 4000 be better than 32gb of 3200?

No, because 4000 is too fast.  There’s this weird thing about the ryzen2 infinity fabric: if it goes above 3733mhz it runs at half speed. 
 

32 of 3200 will be slower than 16gb of 3600 for anything that uses less that 16gb (which is every game ever) but faster for things that use more (like workstation stuff) kinda depends on what you are doing.

 

the aorus elite WiFi is a little more money but a much better board.  It will actually handle that 3950 without choking.


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Operating System :: Windows 10 Home - (64-bit)
Case :: iBUYPOWER CB007 Aluminum
iBUYPOWER Elite Build Package :: None
Case Fans :: Default Case Fan
Case Lighting :: None
iBUYPOWER Labs - Noise Reduction :: None
iBUYPOWER Labs - Internal Expansion :: None
Processor :: AMD Ryzen 9 3950X Processor (16x 3.5GHZ/64MB L3 Cache)
Processor Cooling :: iBUYPOWER 240mm Addressable RGB Liquid Cooling System - Black
Memory :: 32 GB [8 GB X4] DDR4-3600 Memory Module - Certified Major Brand Gaming Memory
Video Card :: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti - 11GB GDDR6 (VR-Ready) - Single Card
SLI Bridge :: None
Motherboard :: MSI MPG X570 GAMING PRO CARBON WIFI -- RGB, 802.11ax WiFi 6, ARGB Header (2), USB 3.2 (6 Rear, 2 Front)
Power Supply :: 800 Watt - High Power - 80 PLUS Gold (White Cables)
Advanced Cabling Options :: Professional Wiring - for all standard default cables inside the system
Primary Hard Drive :: 1 TB WD BLUE SSD + 2 TB 7200RPM Hard Drive
Secondary Hard Drive :: None
External Optical Drive :: None
Media Card Reader / Writer :: None
Sound Card :: 3D Premium Surround Sound Onboard
Network Card :: Onboard LAN Network (Gb or 10/100)
USB Expansion Card :: None
 
i changed the ram to 3600 32gb
also switched out the motherboard
Price $3380.00
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Operating System :: Windows 10 Home - (64-bit)
Case :: iBUYPOWER CB007 Aluminum
iBUYPOWER Elite Build Package :: None
Case Fans :: Default Case Fan
Case Lighting :: None
iBUYPOWER Labs - Noise Reduction :: None
iBUYPOWER Labs - Internal Expansion :: None
Processor :: AMD Ryzen 9 3950X Processor (16x 3.5GHZ/64MB L3 Cache)
Processor Cooling :: iBUYPOWER 240mm Addressable RGB Liquid Cooling System - Black
Memory :: 32 GB [16 GB x2] DDR4-3000 Memory Module - Certified Major Brand Gaming Memory
Video Card :: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti - 11GB GDDR6 (VR-Ready) - Single Card
SLI Bridge :: None
Motherboard :: MSI MPG X570 GAMING PRO CARBON WIFI -- RGB, 802.11ax WiFi 6, ARGB Header (2), USB 3.2 (6 Rear, 2 Front)
Power Supply :: 800 Watt - High Power - 80 PLUS Gold (White Cables)
Advanced Cabling Options :: Professional Wiring - for all standard default cables inside the system
Primary Hard Drive :: 1 TB WD BLUE SSD + 2 TB 7200RPM Hard Drive
Secondary Hard Drive :: None
External Optical Drive :: None
Media Card Reader / Writer :: None
Sound Card :: 3D Premium Surround Sound Onboard
Network Card :: Onboard LAN Network (Gb or 10/100)
USB Expansion Card :: None
 
 
 

MSI mpg isn’t on the tierlist. I don’t know.  Here’s a link to the tierlist for what it’s worth

 


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Just now, Bombastinator said:

MSI mpg isn’t on the tierlist. I don’t know.  Here’s a link to the tierlist for what it’s worth

 

Operating System :: Windows 10 Home - (64-bit)
Case :: iBUYPOWER CB007 Aluminum
iBUYPOWER Elite Build Package :: None
Case Fans :: Default Case Fan
Case Lighting :: None
iBUYPOWER Labs - Noise Reduction :: None
iBUYPOWER Labs - Internal Expansion :: None
Processor :: AMD Ryzen 9 3950X Processor (16x 3.5GHZ/64MB L3 Cache)
Processor Cooling :: iBUYPOWER 240mm Addressable RGB Liquid Cooling System - Black
Memory :: 32 GB [8 GB X4] DDR4-3600 Memory Module - Certified Major Brand Gaming Memory
Video Card :: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti - 11GB GDDR6 (VR-Ready) - Single Card
SLI Bridge :: None
Motherboard :: MSI MPG X570 GAMING PRO CARBON WIFI -- RGB, 802.11ax WiFi 6, ARGB Header (2), USB 3.2 (6 Rear, 2 Front)
Power Supply :: 800 Watt - High Power - 80 PLUS Gold (White Cables)
Advanced Cabling Options :: Professional Wiring - for all standard default cables inside the system
Primary Hard Drive :: 1 TB WD BLUE SSD + 2 TB 7200RPM Hard Drive
Secondary Hard Drive :: None
External Optical Drive :: None
Media Card Reader / Writer :: None
Sound Card :: 3D Premium Surround Sound Onboard
Network Card :: Onboard LAN Network (Gb or 10/100)
USB Expansion Card :: None
 
i changed the ram to 3600 32gb
also switched out the motherboard
Price $3380.00
 
Do you think the water cooling sytem and fans are up to par
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2 minutes ago, Bombastinator said:

MSI mpg isn’t on the tierlist. I don’t know.  Here’s a link to the tierlist for what it’s worth

 

 
It has this card on it by default 
Onboard LAN Network (Gb or 10/100)
Onboard LAN Network (Gb or 10/100)
 
Should i change it out for this for a extra $40?
 
Intel Pro 10/100/1000 Gigabit Ethernet Network Card
Intel Pro 10/100/1000 Gigabit Ethernet Network Card
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2 minutes ago, Bombastinator said:

MSI mpg isn’t on the tierlist. I don’t know.  Here’s a link to the tierlist for what it’s worth

I just call it the Carbon, MEG MAG are both human names, MPG is for fuel consumption. Stop this stupid ****, MSI

 

2 minutes ago, JayR said:
i changed the ram to 3600 32gb
also switched out the motherboard

Not the carbon... it just cant compete with boards from Asus or Gigabyte.

 

3 minutes ago, JayR said:

Do you think the water cooling sytem and fans are up to par

Cooler and fans are acceptable, just dont overclock the CPU cores.

 

2 minutes ago, JayR said:
It has this card on it by default 
Onboard LAN Network (Gb or 10/100)
Onboard LAN Network (Gb or 10/100)
 
Should i change it out for this for a extra $40?
 
Intel Pro 10/100/1000 Gigabit Ethernet Network Card
Intel Pro 10/100/1000 Gigabit Ethernet Network Card

No. The 1000 Gigabit rating is wrong, it should be 1000 Megabit which is 1 Gigabit. So does the one for onboard, 10 megabit, 100 megabit or 1 gigabit.

 

Honestly you should only get faster LAN card when your network switch is also up there and you have something to connect that fast to (say a NAS or internet data plan).


CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: 1TB HP EX920 PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172), 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

I just call it the Carbon, MEG MAG are both human names, MPG is for fuel consumption. Stop this stupid ****, MSI

 

Not the carbon... it just cant compete with boards from Asus or Gigabyte.

 

Cooler and fans are acceptable, just dont overclock the CPU cores.

 

No. The 1000 Gigabit rating is wrong, it should be 1000 Megabit which is 1 Gigabit. So does the one for onboard, 10 megabit, 100 megabit or 1 gigabit.

 

Honestly you should only get faster LAN card when your network switch is also up there and you have something to connect that fast to (say a NAS or internet data plan).

i only get 100mb/s worth the lan card?

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10 minutes ago, Bombastinator said:

MSI mpg isn’t on the tierlist. I don’t know.  Here’s a link to the tierlist for what it’s worth

 

Changed the motherboard to the GIGABYTE X570 AORUS ELITE WIFI

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i only get 100mb/s worth the lan card?

1000mb/s. Just like the onboard one (on the X570 carbon)


CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: 1TB HP EX920 PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172), 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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3 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

1000mb/s. Just like the onboard one (on the X570 carbon)

Okay so my motherboard should do the trick.

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Operating System :: Windows 10 Home - (64-bit)
Case :: iBUYPOWER CB007 Aluminum
iBUYPOWER Elite Build Package :: None
Case Fans :: Default Case Fan
Case Lighting :: None
iBUYPOWER Labs - Noise Reduction :: None
iBUYPOWER Labs - Internal Expansion :: None
Processor :: AMD Ryzen 9 3950X Processor (16x 3.5GHZ/64MB L3 Cache)
Processor Cooling :: iBUYPOWER 240mm Addressable RGB Liquid Cooling System - Black
Memory :: 32 GB [8 GB X4] DDR4-3600 Memory Module - Certified Major Brand Gaming Memory
Video Card :: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti - 11GB GDDR6 (VR-Ready) - Single Card
SLI Bridge :: None
Motherboard :: MSI MPG X570 GAMING PRO CARBON WIFI -- RGB, 802.11ax WiFi 6, ARGB Header (2), USB 3.2 (6 Rear, 2 Front)
Power Supply :: 800 Watt - High Power - 80 PLUS Gold (White Cables)
Advanced Cabling Options :: Professional Wiring - for all standard default cables inside the system
Primary Hard Drive :: 1 TB WD BLUE SSD + 2 TB 7200RPM Hard Drive
Secondary Hard Drive :: None
External Optical Drive :: None
Media Card Reader / Writer :: None
Sound Card :: 3D Premium Surround Sound Onboard
Network Card :: Onboard LAN Network (Gb or 10/100)
USB Expansion Card :: None
 
i changed the ram to 3600 32gb
also switched out the motherboard
Price $3380.00
 
Do you think the water cooling sytem and fans are up to par

Ouch.  I’m not real worried about the AIO. 240mm AIO is more or less 240mm AIO more money is mostly about less noise with those and while 140mm is probably not enough, 240 is more than enough.  Big air might also be an option but it’s not offered.  So lower end 240 AIO should be fine.  The kraken will be a bit quieter but it’s more money. 
 

im a hair worried about the PSU. 800w and 80+gold are nice and all but they don’t say whether the PSU is actually any good or not. PSU stuff is all about component safety.  If a PSU goes it can wreck your whole system. I’ll throw the PSU tierlist at you while I’m at it.

 

 


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1 hour ago, Bombastinator said:

Ouch.  I’m not real worried about the AIO. 240mm AIO is more or less 240mm AIO more money is mostly about less noise with those and while 140mm is probably not enough, 240 is more than enough.  Big air might also be an option but it’s not offered.  So lower end 240 AIO should be fine.  The kraken will be a bit quieter but it’s more money. 
 

im a hair worried about the PSU. 800w and 80+gold are nice and all but they don’t say whether the PSU is actually any good or not. PSU stuff is all about component safety.  If a PSU goes it can wreck your whole system. I’ll throw the PSU tierlist at you while I’m at it.

 

 

Thanks i'll give it a look

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1 hour ago, Bombastinator said:

Ouch.  I’m not real worried about the AIO. 240mm AIO is more or less 240mm AIO more money is mostly about less noise with those and while 140mm is probably not enough, 240 is more than enough.  Big air might also be an option but it’s not offered.  So lower end 240 AIO should be fine.  The kraken will be a bit quieter but it’s more money. 
 

im a hair worried about the PSU. 800w and 80+gold are nice and all but they don’t say whether the PSU is actually any good or not. PSU stuff is all about component safety.  If a PSU goes it can wreck your whole system. I’ll throw the PSU tierlist at you while I’m at it.

 

 

Can you explain what the AIO is and the PSU

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AIO stands for All In One. It’s a liquid closed loop cpu cooler with pump Rez and radiator in a single sealed unit.  
 

PSU stands for Power Supply Unit.  It’s the box with cables that turns wall ac into a couple different voltages of extremely even DC.  It’s got big capacitors and stuff in it and is the most physically dangerous part of the machine.  Because it supplies power to everything if it blows up (they can actually blow up or catch fire unlike the rest of the machine) it can send enough voltage to fry any component in the machine.  A good one resists doing that and has redundant protections so hat if it does fail it won’t hurt the rest of the machine when it does.   A cheap one doesn’t so it’s both more likely to fail and will do more damage if it does.


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28 minutes ago, Bombastinator said:

AIO stands for All In One. It’s a liquid closed loop cpu cooler with pump Rez and radiator in a single sealed unit.  
 

PSU stands for Power Supply Unit.  It’s the box with cables that turns wall ac into a couple different voltages of extremely even DC.  It’s got big capacitors and stuff in it and is the most physically dangerous part of the machine.  Because it supplies power to everything if it blows up (they can actually blow up or catch fire unlike the rest of the machine) it can send enough voltage to fry any component in the machine.  A good one resists doing that and has redundant protections so hat if it does fail it won’t hurt the rest of the machine when it does.   A cheap one doesn’t so it’s both more likely to fail and will do more damage if it does.

Heres my build. Ill go with the PSU that i have and upgrade it down the road. If anything goes wrong with the PC i have a year warranty ill have my psu upgraded by then.

 

Operating System :: Windows 10 Home - (64-bit)
Case :: be quiet! Pure Base 600 Tempered Glass Gaming Case - Black
iBUYPOWER Elite Build Package :: None
Case Fans :: Default Case Fan
Case Lighting :: iBUYPOWER RGB Lighting
iBUYPOWER Labs - Noise Reduction :: None
iBUYPOWER Labs - Internal Expansion :: None
Processor :: AMD Ryzen 9 3950X Processor (16x 3.5GHZ/64MB L3 Cache)
Processor Cooling :: iBUYPOWER 360mm Addressable RGB Liquid Cooling System - Black
Memory :: 32 GB [8 GB X4] DDR4-3600 Memory Module - Certified Major Brand Gaming Memory
Video Card :: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti - 11GB GDDR6 (VR-Ready)
SLI Bridge :: None
Motherboard :: GIGABYTE X570 AORUS ELITE WIFI -- RGB, 802.11 ac WiFi, ARGB Header (2), USB 3.2 (6 Rear ,2 Front)
Power Supply :: 800 Watt - High Power - 80 PLUS Gold (White Cables)
Advanced Cabling Options :: Professional Wiring - for all standard default cables inside the system
Primary Hard Drive :: 1 TB WD BLUE SSD + 2 TB 7200RPM Hard Drive - Single Drive
Secondary Hard Drive :: None - Single Drive
External Optical Drive :: None
Media Card Reader / Writer :: None
Sound Card :: 3D Premium Surround Sound Onboard
Network Card :: Onboard LAN Network (Gb or 10/100)
USB Expansion Card :: None
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