165mm cooler with max allowance bring 165mm

[Aristotle2019]

Is it too much to use a noctua NH-D15 in an NZXT H200/H210? Their max CPU cooler allowance is 165mm while the D15 is 165mm tall. Does that work out? 

[Windows7ge]

How much trust do you have in NZXT when they say 165mm and the same With Noctua? Both parties could be off by 1~2mm and that could make or break it for you.

[Aristotle2019]

5 minutes ago, Windows7ge said:

How much trust do you have in NZXT when they say 165mm and the same With Noctua? Both parties could be off by 1~2mm and that could make or break it for you.

I'm new the whole thing '_'

Shud I not take the risk and cool an i5-9600k with the 158mm NH-U12S? The NH-U14S is also 165 mm so '_'

[Windows7ge]

2 minutes ago, Aristotle2019 said:

I'm new the whole thing '_'

Shud I not take the risk and cool an i5-9600k with the 158mm NH-U12S? The NH-U14S is also 165 mm so '_'

I wonder if @TVwazhere has some better insight. Perhaps the case manufacturer says 165mm but that won't actually mean touching the side panel.

[TVwazhere]

It should fit, but with a catch.

 

Example Builds:

NH-D15

https://pcpartpicker.com/b/qrFtt6

https://pcpartpicker.com/b/GKRJ7P

https://pcpartpicker.com/b/ft29TW

https://pcpartpicker.com/b/hNFtt6

https://pcpartpicker.com/b/hPNQzy

 

You'll notice most of them do not include the front fan. This is because the NH D15's 165mm comes from the 5mm added height of the front fan being positioned higher to not interfere with RAM modules. Most likely you will have to run it with a single fan (They have a SKU for that actually, the NH-D15S)

 

If you're gonna go with a Noctua 120mm cooler, I'd get the NH-U12A which includes their new A series of fans which are some of the best fans on the market. 

[Aristotle2019]

20 minutes ago, TVwazhere said:

It should fit, but with a catch.

 

Example Builds:

NH-D15

https://pcpartpicker.com/b/qrFtt6

https://pcpartpicker.com/b/GKRJ7P

https://pcpartpicker.com/b/ft29TW

https://pcpartpicker.com/b/hNFtt6

https://pcpartpicker.com/b/hPNQzy

 

You'll notice most of them do not include the front fan. This is because the NH D15's 165mm comes from the 5mm added height of the front fan being positioned higher to not interfere with RAM modules. Most likely you will have to run it with a single fan (They have a SKU for that actually, the NH-D15S)

 

If you're gonna go with a Noctua 120mm cooler, I'd get the NH-U12A which includes their new A series of fans which are some of the best fans on the market. 

Thank u so much! Maybe I can take out the fan which adds the extra height and keep it as an extra - use it in case the main fan fails or something. 

And I'll definitely check out the A series. 

[LogicalDrm]

20 minutes ago, Aristotle2019 said:

Thank u so much! Maybe I can take out the fan which adds the extra height and keep it as an extra - use it in case the main fan fails or something. 

And I'll definitely check out the A series. 

Another solution is to use fan on exhaust side. The main reason for height is to allow all size RAM to fit.

[Aristotle2019]

4 minutes ago, LogicalDrm said:

Another solution is to use fan on exhaust side. The main reason for height is to allow all size RAM to fit.

Will that fit above the Rog armour plate in a small itx build ? Then that's good too. But isn't the point of removing the fan to ensure it doesn't get in the way of the side panel ? If it doesn't, then that's better. 

[LogicalDrm]

30 minutes ago, Aristotle2019 said:

Will that fit above the Rog armour plate in a small itx build ? Then that's good too. But isn't the point of removing the fan to ensure it doesn't get in the way of the side panel ? If it doesn't, then that's better. 

Probably not if height of that plate is 44.5mm google gave me. You might be better just going for D15S if the price difference between them is that $25 the fan is worth.

[Aristotle2019]

19 minutes ago, LogicalDrm said:

Probably not if height of that plate is 44.5mm google gave me. You might be better just going for D15S if the price difference between them is that $25 the fan is worth.

Ah ok.. thanks for the help then. Might just stick with the D15 and keep the extra fan since it'll come in use if the fan installed fails. I'm shipping them internationally so it won't be ideal to ship a single fan in case of a failure in the already installed one. 

[Tonberry]

They fits together. Note that by installing the Chromax cover will fix the height of the D15 at 165mm, and it still fit in this case with its covers on.

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[Aristotle2019]

24 minutes ago, PotatoCanDo! said:

They fits together. Note that by installing the Chromax cover will fix the height of the D15 at 165mm, and it still fit in this case with its covers on.

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Woah this is cool. I'll look for the Chromax cover. What ram height is short enough for the fan to fit btw?

[Tonberry]

21 hours ago, Aristotle2019 said:

Woah this is cool. I'll look for the Chromax cover. What ram height is short enough for the fan to fit btw?

Dude, the RAM height restriction under NH-D15 only applies on mATX/ATX motherboard or bigger, but on mITX motherboard which only has 2 RAM slots, both RAM modules sits under the front heatsink cutout, not under the front fan. They sits under heatsink cutout and overlapped the front fan and behind the front fan itself.

So you dont need to lift the front fan higher up.

 

Here is the fact, NH-D15 is more tolerant to RAM heights in mITX builds than in mATX/ATX/bigger builds, trust me.

[Aristotle2019]

7 minutes ago, PotatoCanDo! said:

Dude, the RAM height restriction under NH-D15 only applies on mATX/ATX motherboard or bigger, but on an mITX motherboard which only has 2 RAM slots, both RAM modules sits under the front heatsink cutout, not under the front fan. So it sits under heatsink cutout and overlapped the front fan and behind the front fan itself.

So you dont need to lift the front fan higher up.

 

Here is the fact, NH-D15 is more tolerant to RAM heights in mITX builds than in mATX/ATX/bigger builds, trust me.

So.. that won't? Ok then. Thanks. 

[Tonberry]

38 minutes ago, Aristotle2019 said:

So.. that won't? Ok then. Thanks. 

In ITX builds, NH-D15 can fit any RAM modules as high as its heatsink cutouts can accommodate them without raising the front fan. For how high that cutouts can accommodate RAM heights, you can check in the official NH-D15 specs in their site. There is a clear schematic measurement of every corner of the cooler shape.

[Tonberry]

Here you go,

 

 

You can fit 64mm high RAM modules on ITX motherboards under this cooler without raising the front fan a single millimeter.

 

You will get the front fan directly blows the RAM behind it as an active RAM cooling for bonus.

 

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[Aristotle2019]

2 hours ago, PotatoCanDo! said:

Here you go,

 

 

You can fit 64mm high RAM modules on ITX motherboards under this cooler without raising the front fan a single millimeter.

 

You will get the front fan directly blows the RAM behind it as an active RAM cooling for bonus.

 

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Oh great :):) thank u so much! This was really helpful. 

my ram height is 44mm, so I guess I'll do without the other fan then though.. unless, the ram comes below the heatsink and not the first fan 

either way, at least this is settled then 

ill check what happens when I get it 

[WoodenMarker]

17 hours ago, PotatoCanDo! said:

on an mITX motherboard which only has 2 RAM slots, both RAM modules sits under the front heatsink cutout, not under the front fan. They sits under heatsink cutout and overlapped the front fan and behind the front fan itself.

Are there any photos you can link that show this?

[Tonberry]

2 hours ago, WoodenMarker said:

Are there any photos you can link that show this?

I built ITX system for someone with NH-D15, I can confirm you that ITX motherboard RAM slots are right behind the front fan, and the RAM occupy that heatsink cutout space without any contacts. I put both fan with a pair high enough RAM modules on it. Unfortunately I didnt take pics of it.

 

But here is example from google

 

here, you can clearly see that this TForce Night Hawk RAM module is 53mm high, and it still can fits under the heatsink comfortably. While the cutout can accommodate more than 60mm RAM modules.

 

 

You dont see it's peeking out the heatsink from this view because they are exactly under the heatsink. This build is actually can be added with the front fan without problems and without raising the fan at all.

 

On ITX motherboard with NH-D15, the problem is not the RAM, but it is the 24pin ATX power cables which become problem by nudging the front fan little bit if your PSU has stiff wires, and the case front I/O USB cable that goes onto the motherboard. Not the RAM.

[Aristotle2019]

2 hours ago, PotatoCanDo! said:

I built ITX system for someone with NH-D15, I can confirm you that ITX motherboard RAM slots are right behind the front fan, and the RAM occupy that heatsink cutout space without any contacts. I put both fan with a pair high enough RAM modules on it. Unfortunately I didnt take pics of it.

 

But here is example from google

 

 

here, you can clearly see that this TForce Night Hawk RAM module is 53mm high, and it still can fits under the heatsink comfortably. While the cutout can accommodate more than 60mm RAM modules.

 

 

 

You dont see it's peeking out the heatsink from this view because they are exactly under the heatsink. This build is actually can be added with the front fan without problems and without raising the fan at all.

 

On ITX motherboard with NH-D15, the problem is not the RAM, but it is the 24pin ATX power cables which become problem by nudging the front fan little bit if your PSU has stiff wires, and the case front I/O USB cable that goes onto the motherboard. Not the RAM.

Thanks a lot for all your help