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Sorted Linked List of Generics

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Posted · Original PosterOP

I'm back with a sorted linked list question this time. I am implementing an add function for it and I am unsure of how to sort generics. If it was only numbers I could say n.next until it's value is one more than the value it's add then add it at n.next. As there is no previous function to use. But how do I sorta strings? Alphabetically and look at every letter and if they are the same keep going down the line until they aren't? Or is there an easier way to sort generics? Thanks


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I would say depends on your programming language and your needs.

For example, PHP has the plain common sorting of arrays, but also has "natural sort" option, where arrays are sorted the ways humans expect some things to be sorted.

See for example: http://php.net/manual/en/function.natsort.php and http://sourcefrog.net/projects/natsort/

 


<?php
$array1 = $array2 = array("img12.png", "img10.png", "img2.png", "img1.png");

asort($array1);
echo "Standard sorting\n";
print_r($array1);

natsort($array2);
echo "\nNatural order sorting\n";
print_r($array2);
?>


Standard sorting
Array
(
    [3] => img1.png
    [1] => img10.png
    [0] => img12.png
    [2] => img2.png
)

Natural order sorting
Array
(
    [3] => img1.png
    [2] => img2.png
    [1] => img10.png
    [0] => img12.png
)

 

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32 minutes ago, mariushm said:

I would say depends on your programming language and your needs.

For example, PHP has the plain common sorting of arrays, but also has "natural sort" option, where arrays are sorted the ways humans expect some things to be sorted.

See for example: http://php.net/manual/en/function.natsort.php and http://sourcefrog.net/projects/natsort/

 



<?php
$array1 = $array2 = array("img12.png", "img10.png", "img2.png", "img1.png");

asort($array1);
echo "Standard sorting\n";
print_r($array1);

natsort($array2);
echo "\nNatural order sorting\n";
print_r($array2);
?>


Standard sorting
Array
(
    [3] => img1.png
    [1] => img10.png
    [0] => img12.png
    [2] => img2.png
)

Natural order sorting
Array
(
    [3] => img1.png
    [2] => img2.png
    [1] => img10.png
    [0] => img12.png
)

 

Nevermind I found I use an already implemented comparable interface


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11 hours ago, BuckGup said:

Nevermind I found I use an already implemented comparable interface 

A robust tactic, which is used all over the .NET FCL is to allow the user to specify a delegate that is used to sort their objects. If that isn't available, it tries to use a few different default implementations that are basically variations on what you are doing, and if that doesn't work, all objects inherit from the Object type, so all objects have an Object.GetHash method, which is used to sort them. (that last sentence is only applicable to C#. I am unsure what methods that Java.Object provides)

 

Since Java doesn't have function pointers, the equivalent solution would be to allow the user to provide another object which implements some Comparer interface, and use that objects Compare method to sort the objects in the collection. That allows your collection to sort objects that don't implement whatever interface you are requiring, as well as some other benefits, like on the fly changes to sort order.


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Students: No.

Teacher: Ok. Does anyone have a nail file.

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2 hours ago, straight_stewie said:

A robust tactic, which is used all over the .NET FCL is to allow the user to specify a delegate that is used to sort their objects. If that isn't available, it tries to use a few different default implementations that are basically variations on what you are doing, and if that doesn't work, all objects inherit from the Object type, so all objects have an Object.GetHash method, which is used to sort them. (that last sentence is only applicable to C#. I am unsure what methods that Java.Object provides)

 

Since Java doesn't have function pointers, the equivalent solution would be to allow the user to provide another object which implements some Comparer interface, and use that objects Compare method to sort the objects in the collection. That allows your collection to sort objects that don't implement whatever interface you are requiring, as well as some other benefits, like on the fly changes to sort order.

Very good info. How long have you been programming?


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3 hours ago, straight_stewie said:

A robust tactic, which is used all over the .NET FCL is to allow the user to specify a delegate that is used to sort their objects. If that isn't available, it tries to use a few different default implementations that are basically variations on what you are doing, and if that doesn't work, all objects inherit from the Object type, so all objects have an Object.GetHash method, which is used to sort them. (that last sentence is only applicable to C#. I am unsure what methods that Java.Object provides)

 

Since Java doesn't have function pointers, the equivalent solution would be to allow the user to provide another object which implements some Comparer interface, and use that objects Compare method to sort the objects in the collection. That allows your collection to sort objects that don't implement whatever interface you are requiring, as well as some other benefits, like on the fly changes to sort order.

the interfaces  Comparator<T> (for a delegate) and Comparable<T> (defines this.compareTo(T other)) respectively.

 

@BuckGup  There's also (since java 8 ) plenty of static methods defined in the Comparator interface for dynamically building more complex Comparators out of simple ones.  One thing to remember is to read the documentation.  Sometimes things are said about classes and interfaces that aren't necessarily enforceable by the language.  In this case about Comparable<T>:  "Note that null is not an instance of any class, and e.compareTo(null) should throw a NullPointerException even though e.equals(null) returns false."

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18 minutes ago, BuckGup said:

Very good info. How long have you been programming? 

I'm 25. On and off since I was 9 (does anyone else remember freewebs??), but most of the actual learning is concentrated in the last three years.


Teacher: Does anyone have a thin ruler?

Students: No.

Teacher: Ok. Does anyone have a nail file.

Students: Why do you need a nail file?
Teacher: I have a staple I need to remove.

Student: Oh. I have a staple remover...

 

People don't want power drills, they want holes.

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1 hour ago, straight_stewie said:

I'm 25. On and off since I was 9 (does anyone else remember freewebs??), but most of the actual learning is concentrated in the last three years.

For work or pleasure?


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As @Yamoto42 said for C# you would use the Comparable if you have a single sorting only. It does happen quite often that you need different sorting and that can also be solved with a custom comparer and feed that comparer to the sort method in a linQ or something like that. There is some patterns that would let you apply a comparer to an object and it will use that one instead but in the end it's the same principle, a method that receive 2 objects and return true or false.

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36 minutes ago, BuckGup said:

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On 3/21/2019 at 8:14 PM, BuckGup said:

I'm back with a sorted linked list question this time. I am implementing an add function for it and I am unsure of how to sort generics. If it was only numbers I could say n.next until it's value is one more than the value it's add then add it at n.next. As there is no previous function to use. But how do I sorta strings? Alphabetically and look at every letter and if they are the same keep going down the line until they aren't? Or is there an easier way to sort generics? Thanks

yeah, the simplest and most intuitive way would be just to check each letter. I am sure there is a much more efficient algorithm though but don't quote me on that. I am struggling badly in my algorithm class. 

 


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4 hours ago, wasab said:

yeah, the simplest and most intuitive way would be just to check each letter. I am sure there is a much more efficient algorithm though but don't quote me on that. I am struggling badly in my algorithm class. 

 

Yeah what I actually did was use the compareTo which is in each object class. So taking a.compareTo(b) if a is before b it returns a value less than 0. If they are equal it equals 0. If it’s after it’s greater than 0. Then just use a loop or recursion to add it


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I was bored of building my BrainFuck Interpreter, and this thread prompted me to take a break and reup some of my data structure skills.

I quickly realized that, for even moderately sized n, a MinHeap or a MaxHeap (depending on sort order) can be made to appear to consumers like a doubly linked list (by using the same API), but will provide faster insert and deletion times. Being a sorted Binary Tree, it also allows Binary Search for lookups, which makes that operation faster as well.

 

Given that you're currently thinking about this type of data structure, this may be a good next step in your study of structures, as they aren't really conceptually harder than a Doubly Linked List, and can be implemented in the same ways in regards to generics, either using an interface or a comparer object.


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On 3/25/2019 at 9:00 AM, straight_stewie said:

I was bored of building my BrainFuck Interpreter, and this thread prompted me to take a break and reup some of my data structure skills.

I quickly realized that, for even moderately sized n, a MinHeap or a MaxHeap (depending on sort order) can be made to appear to consumers like a doubly linked list (by using the same API), but will provide faster insert and deletion times. Being a sorted Binary Tree, it also allows Binary Search for lookups, which makes that operation faster as well.

 

Given that you're currently thinking about this type of data structure, this may be a good next step in your study of structures, as they aren't really conceptually harder than a Doubly Linked List, and can be implemented in the same ways in regards to generics, either using an interface or a comparer object.

Heaps are not really sorted binary trees. The heap property only guarantees that higher nodes along the same path are larger (max heap) or smaller (min heap). This is far from the BST property, and as such it means that finding elements in heaps is not more efficient then in an array. It is linear time as you cannot guarantee the position of objects (except for the max/min). 

 

Also side note, for performance reasons heaps should be stored in arrays, not as actual trees, to leverage the cache locality.  


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On 3/22/2019 at 8:26 AM, straight_stewie said:

Since Java doesn't have function pointers, the equivalent solution would be to allow the user to provide another object which implements some Comparer interface, and use that objects Compare method to sort the objects in the collection. That allows your collection to sort objects that don't implement whatever interface you are requiring, as well as some other benefits, like on the fly changes to sort order.

Java doesn't have function pointers, but it has lambdas and function references, which as far as I know are functionally equivalent. 


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On 3/30/2019 at 9:22 PM, Blade of Grass said:

Java doesn't have function pointers, but it has lambdas and function references, which as far as I know are functionally equivalent.

One of the (few) nice thing in java over C# is you can actually reference constructors as delegates.

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On 3/30/2019 at 8:22 PM, Blade of Grass said:

Java doesn't have function pointers, but it has lambdas and function references, which as far as I know are functionally equivalent. 

C# delegates and C type function pointers are different than the anonymous methods (aka Lambdas) that Java (and C#) provides.

 

While it is possible to write anonymous methods to simulate those patterns, it is different and there are some "gotchas" in those differences.

 

The standard way to emulate function pointers in Java is to use the Strategy Pattern, which is what I described.


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