My 7 year old CPU beats a 8700k at stock.

[Turtle Rig]

I ran AIda Queen Test and my CPU beats a 8700k at stock.  WTF.  Also in other tests it keeps up.  So if you have a 8700k you better OC that biaaatch….. Or its slower then a 7 year old CPU lol.  Wow Intel has come a long way LOL...

It also keeps up with other tests.  This tripped me out.  It is sad you get a 2018 CPU and at stock speeds you lose to a 7 year old CPU in Queen bench.  sighs

[GoldenLag]

And who wins in the standard CPU tests like Cinebench or say blender?

 

Edit: you are comparing a heavily overclocked to a Stock CPU.......

[TempestCatto]

And how would it perform in AAA games of it's era compared to today's titles?

[GoldenLag]

Also. Isnt that HEDT?

 

Because HEDT doubled quite rapidly in performance due to a certain threadripper.

[Fasauceome]

Did you put a system with an 8700k side by side or did you use the preloaded reference? Chances are a stock 8700k also beats a stock 8700k.

[TempestCatto]

I got curious and Google'd it. Found a lot of results, even a semi recent LTT post on the very matter

 

Have a Redit link too https://www.reddit.com/r/intel/comments/8eaap1/4930k_to_8700k_worth_the_upgrade/

Also have a UserBenchmark link https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-8700K-vs-Intel-Core-i7-4930K/3937vs1976

 

Long story short, the 8700k OC'd would be about 30% better, otherwise, there's not to much of a discernible difference. That honestly should not be a surprise, since Intel really stopped improving much when AMD stopped being a competitor (for the while that is). So OP's claim actually is pretty damn solid it would seem. Why am I shocked Intel, why am I shocked?

[agent_x007]

Fact checking : 

Just so you know, Queen test uses/stresses INT units, not FPUs.
Since FPU = SSE/AVX/etc, this test really doesn't show how far newest CPUs have got.

[Turtle Rig]

12 minutes ago, TempestCatto said:

I got curious and Google'd it. Found a lot of results, even a semi recent LTT post on the very matter

 

Have a Redit link too https://www.reddit.com/r/intel/comments/8eaap1/4930k_to_8700k_worth_the_upgrade/

Also have a UserBenchmark link https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-8700K-vs-Intel-Core-i7-4930K/3937vs1976

 

Long story short, the 8700k OC'd would be about 30% better, otherwise, there's not to much of a discernible difference. That honestly should not be a surprise, since Intel really stopped improving much when AMD stopped being a competitor (for the while that is). So OP's claim actually is pretty damn solid it would seem. Why am I shocked Intel, why am I shocked?

I agree about being 30 percent faster when the 8700k is OCed, and it would beat my CPU handily.  I just find it odd that we are minority, most people buy the new CPU and use it, they don't even know what OCing is ya know.

[Turtle Rig]

1 minute ago, PacketMan said:

Almost everyone here knows what OC is, but half of the members need to OC their CPUs

I have an i7 6700K, I run it stock because I'm running my PC about 10 hours a day; OCing it to 4.6GHz would consume over 40% more and for just the 5% of the time it would make sense to OC it (games, for example)

And for OC you really need a good cooler, I run mine with a CM 212 Evo and it's 30ºC idle (50% fans) or 40ºC (20% fans), why would I OC my CPU? Make it hotter? Paying a larger bill? Hearing the fans spinning at 100%?

OC is not meant for everyone because it's not that useful

Ya Im with you pacman,  I mean we Linus people know what overclock is, but if a Dad goes to a store to buy his 16 year old a computer,  I doubt that computer is going to be overclocked.  Also woman customers know nothing about OCing and that is 40 percent of the market if not 50 percent ya know.  It is just sad that you have to be a guru and OCer to get the best out of your CPU.  Well ya if your 6700k is running hot then upping the voltage will be painful experience.  However if you OC that CPU you will get amazingly better performance.  As for games, it doesn't matter much, Ive played with 3.4Ghz and 4.6Ghz and honestly there is not really a big difference.  However for pro app usage the overclock would really kick in.  Let me give you a example.

 

I was running a project on my DAW and had 30 tracks of virtual insruments.  The CPU usage was like 30 to 45 percent at max.  I went and put my CPU at 3.4Ghz just for kicks and ran the project and it wouldn't even play and jump to 100 percent cpu usage and crash lol,  So for me OCing really really makes a difference for my Sonar Platinum DAW.