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@Biohazard777Thank you so, so, sooo much. I had actually gotten everything plugged in like you described with 2 in one header and the third in the last header. Thank you for the thorough response and describing difference between the 3 and 4 pin connectors. Will actually use that knowledge in the future when building a PC for my friend soon. I will use that software then. Very glad I don't need a controller. Thank you again you are extremely helpful!

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Jayzuz fuck, 2 more years and my 3570K will perform worse than a Netburst Pentium 4. 

Again, another local access only exploit that 99% of people don't have to worry about and likely would be better without the performance penalty from rushed mitigations.

Let's actually look at it.  Ad-free video.  No real issue there.  You still get the same video.  Exclusive content.  It's the internet and nothing is exclusive, as for earlier videos.  I can wait a week to hear something.  Getting your news a week late would be a problem for someone.  But it's not the viewer who has that problem.  It's a competitive world.  If they want to splash the news a week late. Then people will get it from the new guy who has some ambition and puts it out there sooner. Content creators who get it out there sooner will be the winners when it comes to news or Breaking news on new products.  I'm only going to watch so many videos on the latest and greatest graphics card.  Youtube is not going away and Neither is LTT going to leave Youtube.  It's why Linus was so clear on the fact that new creators to floatplane don't have exclusivity contracts.  It's the only way to try to  bring them in.  Now why would I pay for 10 extra videos a month from a creator.  When the situation is most creators struggle to make the content they already publish interesting.  Now they will struggle and sacrifice quality for quantity.  I love these guys I really do.  I even live in the same Burb as the LMG studios and offices are  located.  So maybe I'll get a chance to tell them thank you in person.  But Money is Money. 

Eh, I don't think that's really in line with the pricing, especially since you can get most of it if you wait an extra day or two.
Do they take out the Linus inserted ads in the videos? I'd say that might be worth it, but I can also just click the timeline to avoid them *shrugs*
Then again, I'm far from the target market; I rarely watch LMG videos.
Not much more, for multitudes more content. It's not even in the same galaxy, let alone league.
No idea, I have no interest in paying per creator, so I've never bothered looking into it.
Haha oh boy. Tech Quickie simply isn't worth paying for on it's own. Plus isn't it largely news based? So, withholding that for a day or two and you've lost your edge.

Nearly tripling the price is a, um, bold move. Maybe subscriptions have plateaued and they are make a significant loss.

Ad-free videos, exclusive content, and earlier videos seem a lot like special perks to me.

I couldn't afford the 3 bucks, can't afford the 8. Floatplane comes with perks beyond early access and I would love to be a part of the community, but such is as it is. Really, 8 bucks is still a steal given that the platform has a lot going for it in its future. Floatplane can be the netflex of techie haven with time, and I think that's where its going.

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Please stop spamming. This is against CoC

if theres nothing it attaches to then, yeah, like he said you should be fine if you just glue it back where it was and make sure all the wires are connected

If the entire chip is ripped out try looking where the chip is supposed to be and and if you can reconnect it to anything

A soldering iron and a steady hand.

Your 3200 will have to slow down to match, so I don't recommend it.

the new modules, if the motherboard accept them, will run at 2400mhz
 
all modules are forced to run at the speed of the slowest module

Well, both X470 and X570 boards suffer from buggy BIOSes at the moment, no one is safe! Though some are more stable than others.
X570 chipset is a repurposed Ryzen I/O chip, from what I've read, and it doesn't have advanced power saving methods so it'll use more power even when nothing uses it. It doesn't downlock or idle in that sense. Also the fan is a big yikes. der8auer made a good video testing the power consumption and heat output a little while ago and he noted that it could be possible to cool x570 chipset by just slapping a moderate heatsink on it. It depends on a manufacturer whether the fan is loud af or inaudible and you could tweak the fan settings in BIOS of course. Just have a good airflow inside your case.
 
Price is also in favour of x470 and b450 for that matter.
You will only lose PCI4.0 from chipset by going with X470. I don't recall there being any new USB connections there. And, well, out-of-the-box Ryzen 3000 support.
 

I haven't heard of anyone's X570 motherboard overheating. My MEG Ace chipset fan doesn't even switch on - although it does have a heatpipe which helps. But most other people I've seen on here with X570 motherboards can barely hear their chipset fan, most don't even turn on. I do agree that maybe using PCIe 4.0 may cause the fan to switch on but again I doubt it's to the level of "melting" your motherboard or the chipset burning out. My chipset tops out at around 46 degrees - with stress tests and so on. I'm not at all worried about that.

Same here, I have the x570 Taichi, which has quite an annoying sounding fan on the Chipset. But I simply changed the fan curve to only ramp up when it hits about 80°, and I've never heard it since. In normal use the temps sit around 60° under gaming up to 70, but absolutely not meling the board. 

Only benefits are pcie 4.0 if you want to use really fast storage and also generally better vrm setups.. but you can of course get good VRMs on the older boards but generally most of the x570s have really nice VRM setups.

Yup, most X570 boards have VRMs strong enough to run comfortably a 16-core chip (3950X). The motherboard tier list has even separated the X570 boards from B450 and X470 boards primarily because of VRMs. 
 
Depends what you want to run in the end. If you want to stick with nothing higher than a 2600(X)/3600(X) or even the 2700(X)/3700X/3800X some of the X470 and B450 boards will run it fine.

The advantage to an X570 board is you won't have to flash the bios to get it to work with a 3000 series cpu, faster PCI speeds IF you have the new expensive hardware that can use it. And for the average person they would probably never notice the difference anyway. And possibly some future proofing for stuff later on down the road.
 
Downside is they cost more, have a fan cooled chipset and use more power than older boards. As for stuff being buggy and the bios issues, X570 boards are having issues as well. It isn't limited to the older boards. It is all based on the code that AMD released so some of the issues it doesn't matter what board you buy or who you buy it from. And I think I saw where one of the companies (asus I believe) had crazy high voltage settings out of the box.
 
Unless you simply don't want to mess with flashing the bios to get the board to work, or there is a specific X570 board that has features you can't find on a previous gen chipset board I would save the money and get something a bit older. And you will still end up having to re flash the bios at some point because there will be updates, but the X570s will boot up out of the box which makes it less of a hassle unless you have an older ryzen cpu or the older board you have has bios flashback where a cpu isn't required to do it.
 
VRMs are of little concern honestly. If you buy a decent board the vrms should be more than capable of supporting that cpu.
 
My opinions anway, and really they are only that. I don't test boards for a living or in my spare time or anything. I have just watched hours and hours of reviews in the past few weeks.

I know about that power draw thing, but I have never heard of overheating issues. That's specifically why all but 2 boards on X570 have a chipset fan. One is the Aorus Xtreme because the the VRM is too efficient to need its heatsink and the chipset is connected to it with a heatpipe, and the Asrock Aqua since its chipset is covered by a waterblock.

From what i've read, note no experience, it is indeed mainly the fan that is required to cool the chipset. In time these tend to derail and start making noise.
On the other hand, the chipset will only get hot (allegedly) when you actually use / utilize the 4.0 bus. So if you don't use it, the fan should not spin and the problem should not arrise.

I don't think people are concerned about its temperature, but the fact that it has small fan makes it a subtle point of failure that might not be so obvious. But you don't get a buggy bios out of the box by going x570. It's just a choice i think