Ayush007

Pot, meet kettle.

Nope, you are nitpicking and biased. I win, bye bye.

I’m looking to get the 4900x/4950x and the 3080(ti?) next year, after I have money saved from my YT and Twitch channels. 
 
Id live to get the Ofdesey G9 but recording and streaming is just a pain in the ass on it so I’ll stick with a 1440p/4K 144hz monitor. 

Well there's not much point in going for 4K if you don't want the best possible graphics.

Agreed - but I am very price to performance minded in my purchasing (most of the time...sometimes I just get what I want even if it makes no sense) and for my use case, time actually used on PC and performance gains Im looking in the price bracket of $400 which I don't see the 2080 dropping too (if it does, Ill still get a 1080ti at closer to $300 which would be better for me - as I am VRAM limited at 4gb of HBM which is causing the most of my performance loss on both of my Ryzen rigs)

NO , its within roughly the 1st  2 hours.

I have talked to at least dozen people that are at various points in the game.  Not a single one of them has dislike it.  Around half of them are not liking it as much as the first one, but are liking it for what it is.  The store where I work will allow members to use a satisfaction guarantee to exchange a game that sucks or that they finish, and so far no one has done so with TLOU2.

Anecdotal evidence sure, but this thread seems heavy on anecdotal evidence.  As for actual reviews, be actual reviewers, it has 100 positive reviews, 6 mixed, and no negative.  With an overall score of 94.  That sounds like a pretty shitty game to me.  And no, don't bring up user reviews, because we all know how easy those are to manipulate.  It has been user review bombed in both directions, massively.

ROFLMAO.
Shad just posted an epic vid. Honestly didnt expect him to make a vid on it tbh, not really what his channel is about ..but still ..how the hell does he keep a straight face
 

I don’t think it’s that people don’t like the lesbian thing I thinks it’s for a start the super false “diversity”. Also it’s not relevant to the plot it’s just shoehorned in which makes it pointless and takes away from the story rather than adds to it. 

I just started playing today (I'm about 2 hours in the game), and it seems VERY promising.

Ah, the old addage. "People are either racist/homophobic if they don't like the game, or are just too upset that things happen."
Aside from everything else garbage about the game that's a perfectly valid reason for not liking it. This is willfully disingenuous. The story sucks, the game blatantly uses cheap "tactics" to try and force emotions, negative consequences only really apply to one party, not both, thus invalidating the entire point of the game. Aging combat systems that were old when the first game released. TERRIBLE dialogue, arbitrarily contrived character decisions at every step of the way, plot holes you could drive a cruise liner through, stupid teen drama the first game ridiculed, the list goes on.
 
If you like it, fine. You might be easily manipulated. But let's not pretend like people only dislike it because they're against the agenda (Which is still a valid reason, the cast is impossibly diverse and there's people in these groups that don't appreciate it) or because thing happens to Joel. I immediately lost interest when the game opens on "Ooh, Ellie kissed Dina! DRAMA!!!" Time for a bigot sandwich. It's fucking dumb. I don't care if Ellie kissed Dina or Jesse or whoever. This is a game that just forgets there's an apocalypse happening constantly and so these dipshits find a hidden weed growing operation... which why the hell is it hidden? Is the fuzz going to come in and do a bust? Anyways they find some weed, take 3 puffs, and then have sex. And then some cheesy, shitty dialogue. WOO! Great storytelling, I've never seen MTV "reality shows" before.
 
Also, no, that's not why people disliked the New Order. Also willfully disingenuous.

Gameplay is more or less identical to the 1st game.
 
Small additions like ability to 'jump' and 'swing' from ropes is more or less just fluff, it doesnt add anything.
 
As i've said, the gameplay isnt what made the 1st game great, it was the story and setting. TLOU2 however doesnt have a good story, so its a rather mediocre game at best. Fans of the original story wont like what TLOU2 is.
 

I'm just 6 hours in so I haven't seen how the story evolves yet. But from what I have played there are a few things i can say.
1. The game looks amazing.
2. The gamplay is fun, but not for everyone. It is slower and heavier than your typical 3rd pearson shooter.
3. The performances from the cast is on another level. 
4. The story moves a bit slow .
5. The games atmosphere is superb.
Overall I would definitely give the game a try.
 

So I beat it yesterday (with all of the collectibles), it took me about 24 hours or so (I used some guides for the collectibles). I like many heard of the leaks then I viewed them and was angry. After a couple of weeks I decided that I would check out the game and preordered it (after I told my wife that I wouldn't get it). I can say that I honestly loved the game. I'm not going to spoil anything but the leaks were wrong about the ending of the game (the footage that they showed was in the game but it was NOT the ending). The ending does have some sort of closure but I feel like some people may not like it. So there are two groups of people that are hating on the game without even playing it

1) People that hate what the leaks show about the game in terms of the story (mainly what happens to certain characters, etc.). For these people, I can recommend playing it but keep an open mind finish playing through the game. 
 
2) People that hate the idea of there being a lesbian main character, trans npc, and a very muscular female character... I don't see how these people would like the game. But tbh I don't think that they were even serious about getting the game (Ellie was always a lesbian and it was a focus of the left behind dlc). People who think this way tend to bash other games too such as Wolfenstein New Colossus for pushing "SJW agenda" because the player in that game is trying to take America back from Nazi control /shrug.
 
 
 
 

You have to be careful of critical praise/ user scoring judgement too as it too can be a result of ...
 

just means you need to do your own due diligence.

Avoid it like the plague.
 
Gameplay hasnt advanced from the 1st game, and to be fair the gameplay wasnt what made the 1st game great.
Graphics are improved but nothing special tbh.
Voice acting is great
 
But the story, the thing that made the 1st game great ...oh boy is that bad. Not just due to certain things that happen ..but just the overall plot, pacing, and script.. its terrible.
 
And the preaching ..or rather ..'agenda' ...could not be more in your face if u tried ...or up the arse
 
If u liked the 1st game for the story ,, dont get No.2 ..if u liked the 1st game purely for the gameplay .. and couldn't care less about the story ..sure go ahead.
 
 
But seriously ..dont buy it.
 
Another thing to note though. When u see a game get highly scored by 'critics' then fail miserably in the user score/reviews, and youtube reivews ...thats when u avoid it. TLOU2 did just that, and for good reason.

Well originally I didn't really want to look into the leaks prior to launch but since I skipped the PS4 so it wasn't like I was going to buy the game now anyway, I checked out some snippets. The problem is that while the leaks were disappointing, the way the whole story's written and laid out is even worse.
I might've given it a chance when the PS5 released as I'm kind of interested in getting one, but after having looked more into the story I've come to the conclusion that I most likely won't even bother.
Part of the disappointment is also that this was the follow-up to a really great ga9me - if this was a separate story on its own, it might not have gotten the backlash it's received.

It'll take around 25-30 hours to finish from what I've heard, unless you're speedrunning it.
Personally, I loved the original, but I'm not touching the sequel because of the utter shite storyline.

The Xbox design is fairly neutral and functional. It won’t overheat and the PS5 has already had rumours about poor thermals which look to be realistic. 

The thing is massive. Like bigger than the PS4 pro.

was shown and Christ I wish it hadn't

the console looks like they stole the design cues from adult toy manufacturers.

Other than Horizon: Forbidden West, the games were pretty underwhelming.

The PS5s issue will be its throttling and devs hating it. Oh and no backwards compatibility. 

The event is about games, not the console. It is extremely likely that the console design won't be showed. Might show UI at best. It is sure that they will not reveal date or price range. How it works was already carefully explained by Mark Cerny's talk, we only need to see the cooler at this point.
 
Hope the event will be good, it should be 1+ hour long and they specifically said to bring headphones so they will probably demo the Tempest engine.

Sure, pricks will always be pricks on the inside but proper training and accountability can do a lot to curb their behavior. This situation was really beyond that of being a prick though. Something was wrong with that cop, like mentally or spiritually. He just had such a disregard for human life.
 
But remember that the other cops were rookies. Some had just started the job. You can hear them in the video questioning the cop pinning Floyd down but he was their superior and so they were obviously apprehensive about intervening. Better training about how to handle situations when a fellow officer crosses the line could have saved Floyd's life. We need to make even rookies aware that in situations such as these, they are permitted, no, required to intervene.