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Sorry for pulling you guys again to this topic... I think I found some good settings, so... I was trying to tweek my voltage and I was able to set 4300mhz at 1.3v, the temps went down 10ºC... WOW
Today when I booted the coputer at 1.325v it was on iddle at 50º-52º now, I'm on 40º-42º.
 
I'm so much happier now! Hope it helps. Lower than that... windows wont boot (at least for me)... also, at 1.3v my C15 score went up... lol

Ah, it's a placeholder. Actually waiting for 3950x. Since I have an online retailer here with 60 days trial, I'll just send the 3700x back and grab the 3950x come september. I could have grabbed the 3900x for the trial period but just in case something goes wrong ( they refuse it back or I overshoot the time limit ) it's less of a money loss ( also, I gambled 3700x would be easier to sell in that case ).
And, France. We also got lovely taxes ! And to think these are the best deals PCPP could find ... I actually got the SSD directly from Corsair in Taiwan, even with shipping it's still a win

I recently came into contact with someone claiming CAS was way more important than ram speed, and should almost be the only criteria to factor in when choosing a ram kit.
They also claimed saying that "3600 is the sweetspot for am4" is stupid and moronic.
Finally, they said they'd rather get a 2666mhz CL 12 kit than a 3600 CL 15 kit.
 
Now from what I understand, the "common" formula used to calculate actual timings or "true latency", (CL/FREQ) * 1000 * 2, yields us the following score :
(12/2666)*2000 = 9.00ns
(15/3600)*2000 = 8.33ns
making the theoretical 3600 CAS 15 kit a winner. Not to mention it also gets better bandwidth, and should be a better base for OCing ?
 
As for me, I think speed and latency are obviously connected, hence the term of sweetspot after all. I'd go as far as give a little preference to speed as long as latency doesn't suffer too much ( went with 64gb 3600/17, couldn't find 16, don't know how much the ram amount and stick setup can affect latency ). You can always underclock the frequency to get good latency or something, but that's a world I do not know yet.
 
So... Are they wrong, or am I missing something fundamental here ?
 
a few links to common sources over the internet :
 

I recently came into contact with someone claiming CAS was way more important than ram speed, and should almost be the only criteria to factor in when choosing a ram kit.
They also claimed saying that "3600 is the sweetspot for am4" is stupid and moronic.
Finally, they said they'd rather get a 2666mhz CL 12 kit than a 3600 CL 15 kit.
 
Now from what I understand, the "common" formula used to calculate actual timings or "true latency", (CL/FREQ) * 1000 * 2, yields us the following score :
(12/2666)*2000 = 9.00ns
(15/3600)*2000 = 8.33ns
making the theoretical 3600 CAS 15 kit a winner. Not to mention it also gets better bandwidth, and should be a better base for OCing ?
 
As for me, I think speed and latency are obviously connected, hence the term of sweetspot after all. I'd go as far as give a little preference to speed as long as latency doesn't suffer too much ( went with 64gb 3600/17, couldn't find 16, don't know how much the ram amount and stick setup can affect latency ). You can always underclock the frequency to get good latency or something, but that's a world I do not know yet.
 
So... Are they wrong, or am I missing something fundamental here ?
 
a few links to common sources over the internet :
 

Yeah... Ah well it's better than nothing, amirite ?
Heh, I was chuckling to myself earlier thinking exactly that.

it really is a shame there aren't more usb in the back. I too am still toying with the idea of getting the creation instead myself because I have a sh!tload of things to plug. im a bit intimidated by the eatx form though...
 
I have also been recommended the Aorus Ultra but you already covered that one.
 
These considerations aside, however angle I look at it the meg ace seems like the right solution for my needs and at this price. 3 m2 slots, above average Ethernet, wifi, and I even just learned there was the heatpipe stuff. Dang couldn't they have put just two more usb back behind !

My very very first own computer was an Amiga 500 - I even got a bonus floppy disk drive a few years later!
My very first PC was a Pentium 100. Such speed!
Can't track them after that... I believe I had another Pentium 1xx and switched to Core 2 duo later.
 
I can barely remember what I did yesterday or the name of any of my friend in highschool so it's a small miracle I'd even remember I had a pentium100 in the first place ...

AMD themselves state 3600 is the price/performance sweet spot, and 3733 is the pure performance one. 
 

1. planning on cl14 3600.
2. I'm personally waiting on pcie 4.0 nvme ssds, rumored at 5gb/s, although not really necessary, no hdd planned, there are lanes directly to the cpu just for the nvme ssd.
3. will be fine.
4. just marketing, but it is smaller and more convenient, the 2080 ti also has a usb-c port regardless.
5. full water/loop>air>AIOs, if you plan to fully oc the 3950x and you don't mind water, this might be the gen to do it.

3666mhz is for max performance. 
come back in a while. 
 
any cached SSD + a mass storage drive is more or less recommended. uncached SSDs arent great for OS workloads. 
 
depends on the board and configuration. most likely be fine. there is a ton of IO on x570 anyway. 
 
USB-C just points to the shape of the port. not a lot more to it. 
good aircooler are just as good as AIOs and way more reliable. 
 
just come here and ask for a build. 
 
just list your requiements, budget and region. people here will put together the rest. 

Just a little tip though : I have currently reached a bottle neck with my I5. Granted it's the previous gen, a 3570k, but the lack of Hyper threading is now holding me back. It's enough for me to consider upgrading to a i7 which means, sadly, getting another mobo and potentially different ram sticks.
 
However it's for very a specific usage, ie streaming, heavy particle sims, etc, and I never felt the need to upgrade my I5 either for games or work ( maya/softimage ) until then.
Just figured you'd like to know that if you THINK you MAY start using something a bit beefier in the coming... let's say 2 years, you may want to plan ahead. If not, then by all means please just take that I5.

In the meantime I'll see if anyone else bites and gives some advice.
I'm a little biased toward the BenQ right now, but who knows ?
I'm not really planning on getting any kind of special mount right now, and if I did it would probably be some kind of wall mount. It's just that I'm not feeling like putting holes in my rented walls ...

It is true that a 8-bit panel are wide gamut, making it be able to do 10-bit colors with A-FRC.
But getting a 6-bit panel with A-FRC, doesn't get you the best colors over a true 8-bit panel.
 
Also, the 6-bit panels, uses white LED's, which output a blu-ish/cold white which ads a blue tint on everything, especially visible on grays. While 8-bit panels uses, either high grade CFL or GB-LED, or if you have the money RGB-LED, which are all wide gamut back lights, but offers a nice white, for your other colors to be based on.

I would say that maybe having a wider gamut aspect ratio for video isn't that important like if you do graphic design and/or photography...simply because your viewers won't have Adobe RGB color space...but still having a good wide gamut monitor means you can't mess up the colors...viewers will simply see less details) especially less green)... what goodbytes said is true: this as I like to call it "fake" 8 bit  isn't as good as true 8 bit but it is still better then the common 6 bit... Dell U2412h is still the king of the best buy...keep in mind that factory calibration is not enough you will need a color calibration device  if you are going to do some pro work. 

Absolutely! Thank you very much dear sir. So its more or less settled, I'll go for the Asus PA. 248 or 249 will depend on my budget when I get there I guess!

Most modern monitors display 8-bit colors yes, using 6-bit panels.  "10-bit monitors" use 8-bit panels.
 
To answer the question, yes you can display native 1080p on a 1920x1200 monitor and the unused portions will simply be black, giving you thin bars on the top and bottom.  No stretching or anything.
 
The ASUS PA249Q and Dell U2413 are the only 24" with 8-bit panels that I can think of right now.

Does this answer your question?
 

Depends on what you're doing exactly!
 
If you don't really care about picture and color precision because you mainly do animation or modeling, or because you're doing engineering project with no real need for pretty pictures, you won't need an expensive, high color fidelity IPS monitor. You'd probably be better with anything else with a low response time to avoid pixel soup when reviewing your animation. I'd also tell you to stay away from 120hz, since you will be doing work presentation or simple showings on classic 60hz monitors. 120hz would display too much useless details.
 
If you mainly work with 3DSM/Maya/AE, you WILL want at least 2 monitors ( two monitors side by side beat a high res monitor any day when it comes to graphic work, telling from experience ), no need for a higher res than 1080p/1200p and 24''.
Maybe you could try to take one monitor with good response times that will host Maya's viewports and everything interactive-related ( disregarding what I said earlier, maybe a 120hz display can be nice there ) with a good IPS on which you will display the render frame, AE's viewers, etc. Only issue would be that two different monitor models are near impossible to calibrate to match each other's colors, so you may have a slightly blue one and a slightly red one. Appart from the obvious fact that one picture won't look the same on each screen, you may strain your eyes.
If you're often lead to work on large picture on PS or Illustrator, though, a high res monitor will give you more working space.
 
Oh, don't change your GPU, those don't really matter so much when doing actual rendering. it all boils down to the render engine you're using, but the most common ( V-ray, Mental Ray, Arnold ) mostly depends on CPU and RAM. My workplace got some GTX 560ti and it's enough to do the job. Render farms don't even have GPUs unless they are using a GPU-base rendering solution. I don't really know anyone sadly.
 
I can't really recommend anything else, as I'm currently trying to find my own monitors. I'm going more the gaming route as I don't really work from home ( I'm a CG artist, animation, entertainment, advertising, etc ), but I wish you good luck.