So I have seen some responses in here that misunderstand why undervolting on 50xx is so good. The quick run down is it creates thermal and voltage headroom which then allows PBO2 to push higher clocks. So you end up with higher clocks and slightly better temps compared to stock.
Anyways each chip is different. I am able to do 30 on my 5900x, but my friends 5800x can only do 10.
I found this quick video that does a good job explaining and walking you through the setup. Give it a try. I can see cores barely breaking 5.1k time to time and my full load clocks bounce in thec 4.6 - 4.75 range. I did tweak a few things like max pbo boost limits, but that all comes after you get the undervolts dialed in.
Here's a crazy thought, how about LTT stop releasing videos everyday, shoving whatever dumb and useless idea they have out there and instead upload few times a week, videos containing actually REAL content?
For those who don't know, in Firefox, under customization, you can set the theme to:
- Default
- Light
- Dark
- or a pre-made custom theme, with suggestions given and "Get more theme" button which jumps you to the website to get more themes.
I use the dark one.
Then you can pick if you have a touch friendly extra large version of the interface, normal, or compact under the "Density" drop down menu list.
This version of Skylake could be expensive, it looked like intel will keep the prices at least within the same levels as with Kaby Lake.
Basically, with Coffee Lake you could pay nearly as much for 6/6 CPU as for 8/16 CPU.
8700K has a ton of performance but it could be close to 7800X/1900X pricewise.
420 euros is approximately USD500 (pure currency conversion).
Edit: If this is true (Most likely not), the US price would be maximally 430-450USD. The european taxes are way higher than US.
Source: http://fudzilla.com/news/processors/44477-possible-intel-coffee-lake-cpu-prices-leaked
I've been thinking that the recent style of edits only attracts little kids, they are far from profesional and mature, and it shows. On the LTX videos the main audience where kids.
It's one of the things I've been saying lately on youtube, the new writers produce too much cringe, and Linus attitude amplifies that.
Here's a crazy thought, how about LTT stop releasing videos everyday, shoving whatever dumb and useless idea they have out there and instead upload few times a week, videos containing actually REAL content?
Here's a crazy thought, how about LTT stop releasing videos everyday, shoving whatever dumb and useless idea they have out there and instead upload few times a week, videos containing actually REAL content?
Here's a crazy thought, how about LTT stop releasing videos everyday, shoving whatever dumb and useless idea they have out there and instead upload few times a week, videos containing actually REAL content?
Here's a crazy thought, how about LTT stop releasing videos everyday, shoving whatever dumb and useless idea they have out there and instead upload few times a week, videos containing actually REAL content?
With this kind of quality videos I don't get why anyone would even think of subscribing to the early access platform that you have.
Oh wait I forgot the majority of viewers are 10 year olds.
1) buy a custom copper heatsink from http://www.heatsinkusa.com/
Something like this but longer, the full length of the card:
They can make the custom holes necessary to fit components and mounting.
2) have them make the fins bent at the end, such that they produce a "tube" like structure for the air to flow straight through. This will also eliminate the need for a shroud, and will dissipate additional heat on the outside of the heatsink.
Like this:
3) Have them mill out a circular section near the rear of the card for a low profile blower fan.
4) lower the frequency and voltage of the titan a little to prevent throttling under load.
5) enjoy your actually working single slot card, for about the same price as all the tools used in the video. It will look way better too!
Threadripper specs are official now with TDP and confirmed pricing. I hope the RAM support is stellar on launch. ( Alienware is offering up to 64GB at 2933Mhz)
As someone looking to upgrade my workstation/gaming system I am extremely excited about what's been shown so far, and cannot wait for reviews comparing it against Skylake X.
I know plenty will be interested in the overclocking potential as well, and at least Noctua has so far confirmed all new coolers for Threadripper based on their best performing coolers.
The TDP of 180W is more than the early leaks, but still rather decent for essentially two 1700X's in the same socket.
Temps, especially under Prime95 and other AVX loads will be interesting.
Asrock motherboards shown off.
Noctua's new cooler designs, and baseplate for Threadripper.
Also very interesting is the Alienware Threadripper machine! They sport up to 64GB at 2933Mhz.
That's actually darn impressive, considering how much Ryzen has struggled to get to that barrer and break it with Dual channel, 16GB max usually.
As for Ryzen 3
Sorry folks, AMD hasn't settled on a price yet. Although the official launch day for retail stock is July 27th.
UPDATE
Microsoft issues an official date of release, passing from "end of March" or April 11.
https://www.neowin.net/news/windows-10-creators-update-microsoft-announces-rollout-will-begin-on-april-11
It would seem that the company delayed the OS release to fix some final issues to reduce issues to users.
Good that they are taking their time.
Original News:
Microsoft releases a new version of Windows 10, dub: Creators Update (version: 1703, Build: 15063). Its codename is Redstone 2. This new version of Windows 10 is a massive update over the current version: Anniversary Update (Redstone 1). It features a fast array of features, improvements, and bug fixes. It is expected to be release in a few days, possibly 31st the latest.
While waiting (ISO download links will be available here once it is officially released for those who prefer to a clean install), here is a bit a reading on what is new:
What is new?
Start Menu
The Start Menu gets a new option allowing you to have a new more compact Start Menu.
Under Start > Settings > Personalization > Start, you have the option “Show app list in Start menu”.
If you disable it, your start menu will pass from this:
To this more compact layout:
Under such layout mode, you can access the app list with the second option on the left side:
When pressed, will show the following:
The Start menu can now do folders from live tiles. Simply drag a tile over another one, and the 2 items will in a folder. You can add additional items by dragging other tiles to the now created folder.
For example, here I put all my games at the bottom into a live tile:
Clicking on it, will expand the folder:
These folder tile can also be resized as well, showing more tiles inside the folder. Just right-click on the folder go to, Resize, and pick a size.
Edge
Edge web browser got a number of improvements. Its rendering engine is now better, a lot more stable, faster, and more secure. It also continues to support more of the web standards resulting in an increase website support. Also, the web browser now has ‘Click to run’ on Flash plugin feature which is enabled by default. This means that Flash content won’t be loaded until you tell it to.
As for the web browser interface, it features:
Set tabs aside:
When you have many tabs opens, say related to a certain topic, like a research you are doing on something, you can Set aside all your tabs for later viewing, and work with a new set of tabs. When you want to return to your research, you can just set aside your current tab, and restore the tabs you were using before in a click (well, 2 clicks). And yes, if you close Edge, the tabs that were set aside, will still be there in the list. To do this, you have these new buttons right before your tabs:
The first one to the left, shows you a panel with previously set aside tabs which you can restore one by one or in full, and a following button sets aside all currently open tabs. And yes, you can have different groups. So, you can do your research, set a side, do another research on a different topic, set aside, do some YouTube, set aside, and return back to your first research with all the tabs you had open, then switch to the second research or back to YouTube. If you work with a lot of tabs, this is great to regroup your tabs, and not have a bunch of them open idling on the back, consuming system resources, and then try to find what you were looking for. As you try to search through your tabs. You can also share a group of tabs with people. Like say you can share all your tabs that were set aside on a topic to your group project partner via e-mail.
Tab Preview
You now have an arrow button the right of your tabs, when you click on it, it shows you a thumbnail preview of your open tabs for you to have an easier time finding what you were looking for.
Web payment API support
Make payments online easy. All personal information are stored locally and filled up automatically for fast checkout. That is, if the website support this feature, of course.
Cortana
Cortana gets new features and improvements in this build. As new features, you have:
Pick up where I left off…
This feature makes Cortana continue your session from 1 PC to another (assuming you have the same software installed between). For example, you work on your desktop, then you need to go. So you pick up your laptop, login, click on Cortana, and you’ll find the option “Pick up where I left off”, clicking on that will open all your programs from your desktop.
Settings
Settings panel got some big changes in terms of layout, being more organized, and features more options being passed from the old Control Panel to the Settings panel, as well as new set of new options:
Night Light
You can uninstall your f.lux app now, and use Windows 10 built-in Night light mode. This option adjust the colors of your display to reduce blue light. It is said, although no conclusive research has been done yet, that blue light ‘causes some people to have sleep problem when they use their computer at night. This is more of an issue if your monitor is, like many, uses “white” LED backlight. White LED backlight is sadly not white, it is a very cold white, even on the age of being light blue more than anything. This results that all colors being displayed gets that blue tint. White appears cold white, and all colors have this extra blue to it. Now, premium monitors use other backlight technologies, or uses yellow phosphor layer to adjust the color of the backlight. Some premium TVs feature Quantum Dot technology to adjust the backlight color. But most people, uses a monitor that is simply white LEDs on the back.
Night Light can be enabled in the Settings panels under System > Display. It is configurable to adjust how much you want Windows to reduce the blue light via a slider, and can set to follow the time of day, or enable itself at a specific time. So, if you turn it on, it takes times before you see the image of the screen turn more yellow. The transition between being enabled and disabled one is a smooth one. The option can also be enabled or disabled from the action center quick notification.
Storage Sense
This new feature adds a new task to the system maintenance schedule when enabled (Settings > System > Storage), which cleans temporary files and recycle bin files that have been in there for more than 30 days. It is customizable. This is off by default
Lock down your account to block further Win32 apps from being installed.
Settings up an account to a family member that isn’t tech savvy, but, you don’t want to set them a limited standard account only, needing you every time they install a software? This new mode allows Win32 programs already installed to run on the system just fine, but any further exe acquired outside be blocked, or show a warning (up to you). When blocked, only apps from the Windows Store can be installed (whether they are Win32 apps or Universal Apps). Basically, you are locking down the system to allow only programs from trusted source to be ran. This allows you to block viruses being distributed as: “image.jpg.exe” through e-mail, or downloaded, it will block randomware and malware as well, but allow any app and games to be downloaded from the Windows Store, or needs you to install it (either run the exe as admin, or go the admin account, disable the lock, and run the setup). The option is disabled by default.
It is found under Settings > Apps > App & features.
Custom color
Windows 10 allows you to pick custom colors for your accent color and background color.
Themes
Since Windows 10, with the new Settings panel, Theme got obstructed, and difficult to access to setup. Now, Microsoft is bringing Theme to the Settings panel, and integrated Themes to the Windows Store. You can download for free a vast collection of themes, and you can buy some if the author chooses to sell it. All the Windows 7 ones are now here for free to download, as it was before, including new ones.
Game Stream
Integrated with Windows 10 now, is the ability to easily stream your game. It is done via the Game Bar, a bar that appears when you do Win+G on your keyboard. Just open the game bar (Win+G), and click on the Broadcast button. That simple. It streams with the video streaming service called Beam. You can your chat while you game, and see what your viewer see. And yes, you can have your webcam show as well.
Game Mode
Game Mode is a feature that Microsoft says that will be continuous development over time. The feature allows to maximize performance out of your games. Up to now, it affects more UWP made games, than Win32. However, UWP needs this a lot more than Win32 made games, which generarly run slower than the Win32 counterpart due of being at a higher level. It brings the game to the same level as Win32. As for Win32 game, the performance benefits is harder to see, especially if you have a powerful system. What it does is that allocates more resources to your running game than background programs, allowing you get a more steady and solid fps experience as you play, and lose performance because something on the back kicked in (say for example something happening in a website you had loaded in your web browser before you game). Nothing ground breaking, but nice to have nonetheless.
Game Bar Settings
Now, the Game bar settings which used to be under the Xbox app, have been moved to the Settings panel. You will notice a new item in the Settings panel called: “Gaming”. Inside you’ll find options for: Game bar, Game DVR, Broadcasting, and Game Mode.
Reset Apps (UWP)
If you have a universal app that is not working right, you can now reset the app. Simple go to Settings > Apps > Apps & features, pick a Universal App, click on “Advanced options”, and hit on the Reset button.
Windows Update – Pause
Windows now allows you to temporary pause updates from being installed on your computer. Paused update can be paused for up to 7 days. So if you plan to do something important and want to ensure no Windows Update kicks-in, you can pause it.
Windows Update – Active Hours
Active Hours is already there in Windows 10 Anniversary Update. It allows you to specify a time range where you don’t want Windows Update to start. Say, you can put your working hours. So, what’s new about it? Under the Anniversary update you could specify a time range for up to 12h. Now, you can push this further to 18h
Windows Update – Notify before restart
Now Windows 10 will notify you, like the good old days, that it needs to restart your PC.
This notification will pop-up, if you have the option “Show more notification” enabled under: Settings > Update & Security > Windows Update > Restart Options. It allows you to Snooze it, which will show up again at a later time, pick a time where you want your system to restart at, or restart now.
Windows Update – Reduce download size for future OS marge updates
Up to 35% in reduction in download size when you upgrade to a major version of Windows 10 to another. Meaning, when Redstone 3 will be release by the end of the year (estimated), the Windows update will be drastically smaller. This is more biennial to those who are in the Insider program (a feature they have been enjoying for a while now), as new build of the next version of Windows are delivered approximately once a week if they are in the Fast ring.
eBooks
If you show open the Store app, you will notice a new section at the top called “Books”. From here you can buy eBooks (which surprisingly, I have found eBook to be cheaper there than on Amazon, so good!). How to view eBooks? Edge web browser now support eBooks. It features presentation options as well, and properly displays the content.
Paint 3D
New Microsoft Paint! The last time Paint got an update was with Windows 7, where it got a very much needed update from the previous version, bringing up to speed to a basic image editor. Now, Paint got updated again, with 3D support.
There is a lot to write here on what you can do, but here is Microsoft video showing a bit of the app in action. The software also has a community which wide range of 3D object done in Paint 3D or other 3D software that you can download and import in your creation.
And yes, the old Paint program is still there.
Windows Defender
Windows Defender got a much needed overhaul to its interface, and brings security related options to it to regroup everything together.
New Out-of-Box experience
When you first install or startup a purchase Windows 10 system, the first setup screen, which is called Out-of-Box experience, can be pretty complicated and uninviting for many non-tech savvy people. Microsoft is addressing this by simplifying the experience. It does this by simplifying the layout experience, but still have the same options as before. Basically, it re-ranged everything. In addition, it includes Cortana, with voice recognition to pass most screen of this setup stage.
Also, now you no more have “Express” and “Custom” option on the Out-of-Box experience. And Privacy settings are always shown towards the end. The text has been updated to make a bit more clear as well, on what does what. When you disable an option, it shows you what impact it will happen to your experience.
It must be noted that you will not see this screen unless you re-install Windows with Windows 10 Creators Update version. However,you can head over to Sat rt > Settings > Privacy to see all available options, and more. It does include some changes over the previous version of Windows 10, if you wonder.
Windows Hello
If your device support Windows Hello, you will notice that Windows Hello is now much faster than before, and features improved facial/iris recognition.
Mixed Reality
Windows 10 Creators Update bring VR and AR support within the OS, with its new Mixed Reality features. If you have a VR or AR headset, you’ll notice a new option in the Settings panel. When enabled, and setup via the Mixed Reality Portal app, a new app introduced in this version of Windows 10, you can have a virtual reality desktop environment that you can interact with.
Improved High-DPI support
The biggest problem in Windows, at a user level who has a high-resolution display for its size, is trying to add to old or unsupported software high-DPI aware support, so that the application appears larger, and is usable. Sadly, this is tricky due to the numerous and custom GUI framework used by a variety of software. Adding support, from a developer perspective, can be easy if the framework they use has support for it, or can be difficult if it doesn’t, or not properly, where it would require an entire recoding of the GUI, potentially, due to the switch to another framework. In the case that they use their own custom framework, like Steam, it would require further work on that front to be done first. Something that most devs aren’t willing to do unless they are a heavy demand from its used done through its support channel.
In the meantime, Microsoft can only bring compatibility options to its user to try and make the experience better.
Under the Compatibility tab, you will notice new set of option for non-supported High-DPI applications.
You have now 3 modes you can pick:
Application: Windows to stop all DPI scaling and let the application scale itself if it has any sort of support. Else the application will not scale at all, and remain small. Some people might prefer to use a smaller application, then to have it be scaled up but blurry, or have content cut out or other visual issues.
System: Windows will stretch the application to be large like a small image made bigger, and apply smoothing effect on it so that everything isn’t blocky/pixelated and hard to read. The result is that is while the program is larger and therefore easier to use, the text and images that the program contains will be blurry due to the smoothing effect.
System (Enhanced): This only works with GDI applications. For applications not using GDI, it will not do anything. What is does is that it attempts to scale the GDI-based content larger within the applications, making the text crisper and easier to read over “System”, while being large.
Native Wireless 802.11ad support
Got a new 802.11ad wireless card? Well Windows 10 now has native support for it. Wireless 802.11ad offers theoretically up to 7 Gbps of throughput. It operates on the 60GHz wireless range, which means that the range is super short, because the oxygen is what interfere with the signal. So further apart you are, the slower your connection will be (reduced signal strength).
Precision Touchpad improvements
Got a laptop or convertible system with that uses Microsoft Precision Touchpad drivers? Well excellent news, your very good to excellent touchpad (depending on your device) will get a nice boost., with improved tracking and a long list of new features, with many nicely customizable. These new features are found under Settings > Devices > Touchpads
On-Screen, virtual touchpad
We have a virtual touch screen keyboard, now we have the virtual touch screen touchpad. What’s the point? It is aimed at tablets to allow to control their cursor on a second non-touch screen. For example, if their Windows tablet is connected to an external display or projector and not set as clone, with the virtual touchpad, they can navigate the cursor that has traveled to the other screen to interact with programs and Windows itself. The virtual touchpad stays on top of all your windows, and is draggable. It supports multi-touch and gestures. You can use your finger or thumb to navigate the cursor on the screen.
Picture-in-Picture mode
Universal Apps can now can have a floating mini panel on your desktop, allowing you to have a mini video player window float on your desktop, or Skype video chat window with the new Skype app, which is now out of Preview. The panel is draggable, and can be interacted.
For example, the Movie & TV video player app now has a new button where, when you press it, it goes in Picture-in-Picture mode, where you have this mini video player view that floats above your windows, which you can drag around. By default, it is positioned at the top right corner of the screen, with spacing at the top to not interfere with maximized windowed title bar buttons (minimize, restore, close buttons).
Dynamic Lock
All you need is Bluetooth on your phone, and in your PC. Dynamic Lock is a feature where you can connect your mobile phone to your system via Bluetooth. Windows measures the distance between you and the computer Bluetooth module, and when you walk away from the system, it locks the system for you.
All the Apps got updated greatly!
Be sure to checkout every app, they have all been updated greatly. For example, Maps got a new rendering engine, you can set multiple point in your itinerary, you can use the pen to draw and plan, and more. That is just a few things from 1 app. If I cover all of them, this thread will be extremely long. Beside it is fun to discover, when you'll upgrade
And lots more, including lots of improvements for non-Latin based languages.
Expect to see this update in the coming days, as Microsoft is actively preparing for it.
Are you excited or interested in this new update? Are you ready to update?
Or, you know, people may just see this attempt at "clickbait" as you call it (in reality it was a straight up lie) as one more step down the slippery slope that is the chasm of mediocrity LTT has been circling the drain of recently. You say their content was "good" in this video, in my opinion it was rather meh. They didn't account for the fact that we don't know how AMD will split cores/CCX's for their 6c12t SKU as there is a lot more to it than just "disabling" things like LTT did as it will directly affect how well the cores communicate with each other. So this is all basically speculation at it's finest. Couple that with a title of "AMD RYZEN 5 AND 3 TESTED!" and you should be able to see why people got so upset as they expected to get information, not trolled.
I know your account is only from May of 2016 but they have been on the downhill slide for a while so it's more than just "some minor transgression". They've been doing CPU benchmarks at 4K which makes literally zero sense from a CPU benchmarking perspective. They've made pointless videos about the apparently novel idea that upgrading an old laptop with an SSD will "breathe new life into it", which anyone who even faintly knows what an SSD is could have told you. They make a video called "The SOLUTION to Video Card OVERHEATING & DEATH" pretty much all of which is like a paid advertisement from EVGA and their "new" cooler. This doesn't help anyone who is having GPU overheating issues but the title sure as hell wouldn't tell you that. They make a video asking if it's worth it to buy thermal compound in bulk and then say it's not worth it, all because they bought a shit no-named brand. If they bought say the 600g tub of Prolimatech PK-Zero, which is half a degree worse than Gelid Extreme (AKA pretty damn good) they could have actually TESTED this and used it over the course of a couple of months with their testing different CPUs and see how the bulk version held up with frequent air contact due to having the lid open for a while over the course of numerous applications. But no, they take the "easy" way out and make a worthless video that helps nobody.
But hey, we're just "elitist geezers" as you put it. Who gives a shit if we've been around the block a few times and know enough about what we're doing to be able to call bullshit when we see it. Also in regards to the "clickbait/lies" being the future, you/Linus/anybody else who believes and embraces that can blow it out their ass as far as I'm concerned as that's about all it's worth now and ever will be.
Yeah, it's best we say nothing when they do something wrong. Seeing at their like/dislike ratio on the video, there are more people that dislike it than I thought. If such a huge part of the community doesn't like something they should voice their opinion, not keep quiet about it. That is how you actually help them and steer them in the right direction. They should not be doing videos the community doesn't want/support, nothing good can come out of that. It's best they make a video "GTX 3080Ti tested" and then start doing a lot of math how it should perform in the video right?
Remember, loyalty != blind loyalty/fannboyism.
And we should just bend over a take it? This isn't even the beginning of an argument. If anything, you're proving the point that crass commercialism is replacing actual substance across the board. Forgive a few "geezers" for wanting to preserve a bastion of integrity.
Could the LTT crew please listen to the community and stop with the retarded thumbnails and insane clickbait (although that vary's with videos some are worse than others).
We get it that it get's you guys more money but simply faking a title is wrong.
I liked it when the thumbnails represented the product or the topic more like they did a year ago.
This video has a intriguing title and a good Thumbnail. This more recent one sucks, Photo shopped asf and is ugly, not helpful at all.
Gives a good view of the product and is nice. I mean WHAT DO HOTDOGS HAVE TO DO WITH AN ALL-IN-ONE?!?
Or this thumbnail is really good! VS Then you have thumbnails like this one which have nothing to do with the
Topnotch camera work by brandon and the title just works. video itself.. Please.
Thumbnails that are not photo shopped are way better and the ones that are shouldn't be used it as it gives the video a way less professional look and is just plain annoying and anti-consumer.
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