Why do we need to link everything with the cloud?

[xBlizzDevious]

Hey everyone!

 

Why is every OS and program trying to enforce logging in to it and keeping it online?

 

I don't want to be connected to the internet 100% of the time; I don't want one account that knows more about me than I know myself. I don't want my PC, laptop, phone and whatever else all connected and knowing what I'm doing every second of every minute of every hour, etc.

 

I'm not a big fan of everything online, as you may be able to tell. I only have a Facebook account because a friend made it for me and told me to use it. I almost never (like maybe once every 6 months) post anything - it is connected to NOTHING. My Facebook account is JUST my Facebook account. I don't have Twitter, Instagram, Snapchat or anything like that. Basically, I have a few forum accounts for things that I'm really interested in and an email account which gets almost nothing sent to it.

 

Now the main reason I'm writing this post - your desktop OS wanting a logged in account all of the time. Windows 10 now doesn't want you to be able to log into a local account - the option has been removed entirely, as far as I can see, unless you're physically not connected to the internet. WHAT!?

 

Cortana - which shouldn't need to have an account to perform its basic functions, requires you to be logged in with a Microsoft account before you can use it at all.

 

Everything is becoming far too integrated. I wish that things would allow you to run them on their own, with nothing else connected the way the world used to be. This whole "connected to the cloud" thing is just annoying me.

 

 

 

What's everyone else's thoughts on this? Are there people out there who couldn't live without all of your devices, programs and accounts all working together? For me, my desktop is my desktop, my laptop is my laptop, my phone is my phone - that's it; they're not connected to each other and I don't want them to be.

 

PS: Am I, an IT Technician, turning into a luddite? Haha!

[slightlyjaded]

Most of it is a form of DRM, especially in games. In regards to things like siri, and cortanna it's more about product development. The more samples it sees, the more accurate it's results become.

[Godlygamer23]

The world is heading towards relying on cloud services.

[Briggsy]

For personal stuff, cloud services are convenient but not necessary. For business, the cloud is the greatest thing since the telephone, hands down. You have to have a need for it to understand how much potential there is for decentralized computing and storage, but believe me its a game changer.

[KirbyTech]

While I hate the cloud I see the appeal to the average person. I am not that. I don't have a need for cloud services, I use non other than Google drive and that is only for sending school stuff. 

[nicholician]

People use the cloud mostly for it's convenience factor. No one wants to carry around something with all their data on it ie. a USB drive, they'd rather just get an internet connection and download it wherever they need it. This concept works great because the internet is so widespread now that moist of the time, people do have some way to get a connection

[moderategamer]

Hey everyone!

 

Why is every OS and program trying to enforce logging in to it and keeping it online?

 

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But how else would we get leaked nudes and home porn of celebrities? the cloud is a hackers wet dream. I'm personally not a fan but then I'm not at University anymore so I don't really have the need. It does beg the question though Where are we getting all this storage space when you think about it say every computer user gets a single GB of cloud storage space allocated to them and there's 7 Billion people in the world thats 7 billion GB of storage and considering most people have way more that 1 GB that's a lot of storage that's probably for the most part unused.

 

and before anyone says not everyone in the world has a computer I know...   

[SansVarnic]

I agree with you XBlizzDevious wholeheartedly but I cannot deny the convenience it has made for myself with my line of work. I don't like social networking but online access is nice, I do not utilize the 'cloud' but have my own server 'cloud' set up at home instead to better control where my info is guarded.

However you feel about this subject the future is cloud computing wether we like it or not and OS's and other of the like will push for it continuously until everyone converts or accepts this as the standard. There is no reason to put your life online and be able to enjoy the convenience it provides at he same time, unfortunately a lot of people (sheople) don't pay attention and plaster their life online and then OMG my ID was stolen and then wonder why? um Duh... be smart. Not that I really need tell anyone on this forum this tid bit of common sense.

[xBlizzDevious]

Most of it is a form of DRM, especially in games. In regards to things like siri, and cortanna it's more about product development. The more samples it sees, the more accurate it's results become.

 

And DRM is something I cannot stand. The only reason I still accept Steam is because the end user only sees the login part of the DRM. Everything is handled by Steam itself. As for "product development", why can't I use it in a basic state without it knowing who it's speaking to?

 

 

The world is heading towards relying on cloud services.

 

I know and this really worries me. Up until a few months ago, the fastest internet available where I am was 6Mb/s down and between 0.2 and 0.5 up. NOT enough for cloud services of any kind. A few areas around me can now get fibre at up to 80/20 (which I now have - more on that in a sec) and some other places can at least get nearer 20/1 on their ADSL. Since I've had fibre broadband, the only thing that's changed in the way I use the internet, is the quality I set Youtube to. I'm not using any cloud services or anything like that. Oh, and when you're out and about around here, nowhere has 3G or 4G so you can't use cloud services on the move. What's going to happen to rural communities like this? Are we going to just be MORE cut off from the world because we can't use services that we require to be able to keep using technology the way we do?

 

 

For personal stuff, cloud services are convenient but not necessary. For business, the cloud is the greatest thing since the telephone, hands down. You have to have a need for it to understand how much potential there is for decentralized computing and storage, but believe me its a game changer.

 

I'm an IT Technician for a company that deals with many clients - the closest any of them rely on cloud services is email accounts. One client is soon to start using Office 365, but as far as I can see, there's no cloud integration with the way they're going to use it; it's all locally stored.

 

 

While I hate the cloud I see the appeal to the average person. I am not that. I don't have a need for cloud services, I use non other than Google drive and that is only for sending school stuff. 

 

When I was in university, I used Dropbox. I still have a Dropbox, Google Drive and Copy.com account, but I haven't used any of them in years. I got an email from one saying that I had to log in or my account would be marked as inactive.

 

I agree, I'm definitely not the average user, but I can't see what the average user would need these services for.

 

 

People use the cloud mostly for it's convenience factor. No one wants to carry around something with all their data on it ie. a USB drive, they'd rather just get an internet connection and download it wherever they need it. This concept works great because the internet is so widespread now that moist of the time, people do have some way to get a connection

 

I must be weird then. What about places where the internet is not available? Do they just give up on life because nothing works?

 

 

I agree with you XBlizzDevious wholeheartedly but I cannot deny the convenience it has made for myself with my line of work. I don't like social networking but online access is nice, I do not utilize the 'cloud' but have my own server 'cloud' set up at home instead to better control where my info is guarded.

However you feel about this subject the future is cloud computing wether we like it or not and OS's and other of the like will push for it continuously until everyone converts or accepts this as the standard. There is no reason to put your life online and be able to enjoy the convenience it provides at he same time, unfortunately a lot of people (sheople) don't pay attention and plaster their life online and then OMG my ID was stolen and then wonder why? um Duh... be smart. Not that I really need tell anyone on this forum this tid bit of common sense.

 

I don't want cloud computing to be the way everything works. "sheople don't pay attention and plaster their life online" is something that has always worried me. Unfortunately, there's almost no common sense left in the world - perhaps that's more the question here, than "why is everything in the cloud?"...

 

New topic:

Why does almost no one have common sense anymore? Haha!

[Trik'Stari]

Because they want your data, you are nothing to them but a potential dollar sign.

[slightlyjaded]

New topic:

Why does almost no one have common sense anymore? Haha!

Because it isn't that common.

[xBlizzDevious]

Because they want your data, you are nothing to them but a potential dollar sign.

 

Ah, corporations... (excuse the language) F*** OFF!

 

I don't want to be a "potential dollar sign" for things that don't need to exist.

 

 

Because it isn't that common.

 

I don't know whether to laugh or cry...

[Trik'Stari]

Ah, corporations... (excuse the language) F*** OFF!

 

I don't want to be a "potential dollar sign" for things that don't need to exist.

 

 

 

I don't know whether to laugh or cry...

Too bad, that's all any of us are. Dollar signs for corporations and politicians to salivate over.

[tomison25]

Because it is easy, syncs across devices on multiple platforms and whether you like it or not, it is the future.

[Briggsy]

I'm an IT Technician for a company that deals with many clients - the closest any of them rely on cloud services is email accounts. One client is soon to start using Office 365, but as far as I can see, there's no cloud integration with the way they're going to use it; it's all locally stored.

 

like I say, "if" you have a need for it cloud tech is great.

 

As an example: In a service based business with multiple employees servicing customers at multiple different locations in a large geographical radius, cloud based technology saves a great deal of time. work orders, inventory, and job assignment based on an employees current location. In this scenario, productivity easily doubles. Plus, these are all parts of a business that are not confidential, so risk is incredibly low. 

 

If you are in a business that would not see any benefit to cloud based technology, than I agree its better to have things localized, especially if its confidential information.

[SansVarnic]

I don't want cloud computing to be the way everything works. "sheople don't pay attention and plaster their life online" is something that has always worried me. Unfortunately, there's almost no common sense left in the world - perhaps that's more the question here, than "why is everything in the cloud?"...

 

New topic:

Why does almost no one have common sense anymore? Haha!

 

Admittedly I don't like cloud anything myself for personal use. The common user doesn't need nor will gain much if anything with cloud computing. Realistically. Dollar signs from using peoples information to increase (personalize is the term they use) advertising is a common goal here (Google-cough-) with the cloud computing thing. Anyone remember Adobe's attempt at cloud computing? It flopped as well as a fish out of water. Ha. But no, cloud based anything is only useful if your a corporation of significant size, you do a lot of logistics or logistical outsourcing and such. (As Briggsy also mentions) But thing is to push the corporate level access to anyone - and so I will quote myself here- "However you feel about this subject the future is cloud computing whether we like it or not and OS's and other of the like will push for it continuously until everyone converts or accepts this as the standard." I said it but I don't necessarily agree with it.  

 

I should stop using the term common sense and say sense of mind due to lack of aforementioned.

 

If you haven't noticed, Microsoft's Holographic computing research the clouds tie in fairly well. From what I've seen is interesting <-- That's another topic for another time another thread.

[mckrackin5324]

People use the cloud mostly for it's convenience factor. No one wants to carry around something with all their data on it ie. a USB drive, they'd rather just get an internet connection and download it wherever they need it. This concept works great because the internet is so widespread now that moist of the time, people do have some way to get a connection

True but I have games that I paid good money for on DVD that are all but unplayable without an internet connection.

 

Why buy the game on hard copy if it just plays from the internet?

Like driver disks...The only thing on a lot of those disks are links to download the driver online...What's the disk for? A list on a piece of paper would do.

[bcredeur97]

before you know it we'll all be booting off of remote servers haha. Things change I guess. 

Systems Administration is going to become an important job soon... 

[SansVarnic]

Why buy the game on hard copy if it just plays from the internet?

Like driver disks...The only thing on a lot of those disks are links to download the driver online...What's the disk for? A list on a piece of paper would do.

 I have asked the same d@$# question.

[adithyay328]

Well, the world's becoming more and more social, and virtually everything is social nowadays. While these highly complex applications do have some cracks which can be exploited, security measures are also becoming more and more sophisticated. I mean, only a very experienced hacker could get into the newest security measures(usually).