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Should I upgrade to Skylake?

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Hi everyone,

This has probably been asked before, and I'm sorry if I'm beating a dead horse (someone call PETA) but will Skylake breathe new life into Intel's CPUs? I remember when Haswell came out it didn't really offer anything new performance wise to the generation before it (Ivy Bridge if I recall correctly). I'm fairly new to the Intel family coming from an AMD line, so my only experience with them is my 4790k, which is great by the way. Does anyone know if an upgrade will be advised? I really appreciate any advice and help that I get!

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You wont notice a difference in gaming because your gpu will still be the bottleneck.

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You wont notice a difference in gaming because your gpu will still be the bottleneck

Actually, according to that, your gpu bottlenecks your cpu also. Usually bottlenecks are measured from cpu to gpu not gpu to cpu

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We'll see if Skylake is an unlikely miracle product when the benchmarks for it start appearing, but chances are it will be too marginal to bother with if you've already got a -4790K. Intel's product generations are usually only a few percent faster than the previous.

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If it uses the same socket type as the 4670K then by all means I am upgrading. It might not be a big leap but there might be better overclocking and lower watt usage.

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You wont notice a difference in gaming because your gpu will still be the bottleneck.

Not really a gamer. I do 3-D animation.

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You wont notice a difference in gaming because your gpu will still be the bottleneck.

Not really a gamer. I do 3-D animation.

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Oops, sorry for the double post, don't know how that happened O.o

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If it uses the same socket type as the 4670K then by all means I am upgrading. It might not be a big leap but there might be better overclocking and lower watt usage.

 

Rumor has it the Skylake processors will release alongside the LGA-1151 socket and Z170 chipset.

 

http://wccftech.com/intel-skylake-socket-lga-1151-z170-chipset/

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Oops, sorry for the double post, don't know how that happened O.o

Same I had that happen in this post too. I think its a bug in the forum and I have to refresh the page to see that I commented to I click twice because I think it didn't post

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Oops, sorry for the double post, don't know how that happened O.o

Same I had that happen in this post too. I think its a bug in the forum and I have to refresh the page to see that I commented to I click twice because I think it didn't post

 

There we go again*

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We'll see if Skylake is an unlikely miracle product when the benchmarks for it start appearing, but chances are it will be too marginal to bother with if you've already got a -4790K. Intel's product generations are usually only a few percent faster than the previous.

When was Intel's last chipset that offered the most significant performance increase? I don't know much bout Intel, so I'm curious.

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When was Intel's last chipset that offered the most significant performance increase? I don't know much bout Intel, so I'm curious.

 

Sandy Bridge, released January 2011, was the last big IPC gain from Intel. Which is why Sandy Bridge i5 and i7 are still among the best gaming CPUs on the market.

Why the i5 over the FX-8350?

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It doesn't, only Broadwell does.

Darn. Will Broadwell be any good?

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Sandy Bridge, released January 2011, was the last big IPC gain from Intel. Which is why Sandy Bridge i5 and i7 are still among the best gaming CPUs on the market.

Ah, which is why many people are still using the 2500k and 2600k I presume? I wish I was a PC enthusiast back then, it must've been a great time haha.

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Darn. Will Broadwell be any good?

I really don't know. The rumored clockspeeds don't look too impressive, but they may just be set low to get under the 65W TDP threshold. We won't know how they overclock until a lot of people have retail box CPUs; not sure I'm going to trust early reviews with review samples. They have supposedly cut down the L3 cache by 2MB. But I think they have 128MB of highspeed RAM for the iGPU that could be really awesome if you can use it as an L4 cache for the CPU. A lot of questions still, that aren't going to be answered until these CPUs are actually out in the wild. We do know it has Iris Graphics which destroys HD Graphics for people who don't buy video cards. I think I read somewhere that floating point computation is greatly improved on Broadwell vs Haswell, which would help with game physics but probably isn't useful for game logic or AI.

Why the i5 over the FX-8350?

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Ah, which is why many people are still using the 2500k and 2600k I presume? I wish I was a PC enthusiast back then, it must've been a great time haha.

On top of that the i5-2500k and i7-2600k are legendary overclockers. I hear about 5GHz 2500k all the time. They're about 90% as powerful as Haswell chips at the same clockspeed, so an i5-2500k at stock is about as powerful as an i5-4440, which is already pretty strong.

Why the i5 over the FX-8350?

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When was Intel's last chipset that offered the most significant performance increase? I don't know much bout Intel, so I'm curious.

 

Steve beat me to it, but yeah, the last really big-ish jump was Sandy Bridge up from Nahalem (so i5-2500K versus i5-750). I suppose we're due for another big improvement, but that gets into speculation territory. The only way we'd know is from post-release benchmarks.

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Darn. Will Broadwell be any good?

 

yes it will be good. about 10% better than haswell if previous releases are anything to go by.

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Im only considering upgrading my 2600k because it has pcie 2.0 not because its slow lol, your 4790k is fine!

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yes it will be good. about 10% better than haswell if previous releases are anything to go by.

Clockspeeds are down massively. Broadwell's more about integrated graphics and less TDP than anything else. 

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yes it will be good. about 10% better than haswell if previous releases are anything to go by.

 

http://www.trustedreviews.com/news/intel-core-i7-5775c-and-i5-5675c-to-be-first-desktop-broadwell-cpus

More rumors. It sounds like these are clocked slower than Haswell with 65 Watt TDPs and Iris Pro graphics. Supposedly these will feature unlocked multipliers despite the lack of a "K" suffix, so maybe if the low TDP opens up tons of overclocking headroom they could be slightly better than Haswell. But it sure doesn't sound like there will be a meaningful IPC bump.

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Darn. Will Broadwell be any good?

nay. Not really. They have lower power consumption and lower base clock speed

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