Is this a decent pre build?

[theunnamedgamer]

My friends looking for a pre build, I've offered to build one, but he said no, so I've looked at pre builds.

Is this OK, could I get anything better for the budget?

https://www.ebuyer.com/859688-cyberpower-gaming-paladin-elite-i5-8400-gtx-1060-6gb-ebu081810

 

[3 Lions]

Why won't your friend build one? 

Edited November 24, 2018 by LinusTechTipsFanFromDarlo

[orbitalbuzzsaw]

No such thing as a good prebuilt.

[theunnamedgamer]

On 11/24/2018 at 10:05 PM, LinusTechTipsFanFromDarlo said:

Why won't your friend build one? 

Lazy.....

 

I've tried everything.... 

tried for 1 year. 

He finally has money. 

[3 Lions]

1 minute ago, theunnamedgamer said:

Lazy.....

Probs maybe scared.

I've tried everything.... 

tried for 1 year. 

He finally has money. 

Have you shown him a build guide? 

[XR6]

Try to convince him into building it. 

If not, try to use a company like pcspecialist who let you choose the components and then they build the PC for you.

[saladcrack]

Yeah looks alright to me. Tbh don't worry about your friend not wanting to build his own or let you build it. With a prebuilt (especially this one) you're getting a warranty on the entire thing not just individual parts so if something goes wrong it's incredibly easy to remedy (if their customer support is up to scratch of course).

[theunnamedgamer]

2 minutes ago, LinusTechTipsFanFromDarlo said:

Have you shown him a build guide? 

I've offered to build it out right for free for him... still no. 

[theunnamedgamer]

Just now, Gamessys said:

Yeah looks alright to me. Tbh don't worry about your friend not wanting to build his own or let you build it. With a prebuilt (especially this one) you're getting a warranty on the entire thing not just individual parts so if something goes wrong it's incredibly easy to remedy (if their customer support is up to scratch of course).

Personally never had a problem with Ebuyer, 

[saladcrack]

Just now, theunnamedgamer said:

Personally never had a problem with Ebuyer, 

Never bought from there so no opinion really but Cyberpower is a good SI so it should be a quality system.

[XR6]

Ebuyer is alright. Never bought from there before but I know people who have. They don't seem to have had any issues.

[3 Lions]

Just now, theunnamedgamer said:

I've offered to build it out right for free for him... still no. 

This is totally the route you should go without a doubt, I'd try your hardest to convince him. 

[theunnamedgamer]

4 minutes ago, LinusTechTipsFanFromDarlo said:

This is totally the route you should go without a doubt, I'd try your hardest to convince him. 

You think I haven't been trying? XD.

All my friends have, but all have given up.

I'm basically gonna help him find a good value system, rather than spending a lot and getting ripped off.. 

[Bananasplit_00]

only up priced about $150 or so, its not the worst you could do i guess

[theunnamedgamer]

He was gonna get a company to "configure" a build to his specs, but this pre build is same price and better specs (e.g double amount of RAM, 6GB instead of 3GB card, 240GB SSD instead of £120...

[theunnamedgamer]

20 minutes ago, 1kv said:

Try to convince him into building it. 

If not, try to use a company like pcspecialist who let you choose the components and then they build the PC for you.

That was his original plan, however as above,

 this pre build is same price and better specs than his "configured" build/ (e.g double amount of RAM, 6GB instead of 3GB card, 240GB SSD instead of £120...

[LogicWeasel]

I'm not sure how many other SI's you have available in the UK, but if NZXT BLD or iBuyPower is available I'd compare what they can offer to that budget just to be sure.  iBuyPower tends to run big sales (just like CyberPower) so you may get more bang for your pound there.

[XR6]

3 minutes ago, theunnamedgamer said:

That was his original plan, however as above,

 this pre build is same price and better specs than his "configured" build/ (e.g double amount of RAM, 6GB instead of 3GB card, 240GB SSD instead of £120...

Go for it then. It looks alright. My build is a Zoostorm prebuild and it's been really good for the past 3 years. I have treated it horribly and it's fine.. 

3 minutes ago, LogicWeasel said:

I'm not sure how many other SI's you have available in the UK, but if NZXT BLD or iBuyPower is available I'd compare what they can offer to that budget just to be sure.  iBuyPower tends to run big sales (just like CyberPower) so you may get more bang for your pound there.

I think we have iBuyPower but I'm not sure..

Edit: We don't.

[XR6]

Also this exists: https://www.cyberpowersystem.co.uk/

[theunnamedgamer]

4 minutes ago, 1kv said:

Also this exists: https://www.cyberpowersystem.co.uk/

I did have a look

Works out more expensive for the same build. 

the only over option was this

https://www.cclonline.com/pc/gaming-pcs/ryzen/ccl-ryzen-gs-gaming-pc/

(get OS ISO from MS and get a code from ebay....) 

I think he prefers intel, but this may work out better on his budget. 

[XR6]

2 minutes ago, theunnamedgamer said:

I did have a look

Works out more expensive for the same build. 

the only over option was this

https://www.cclonline.com/pc/gaming-pcs/ryzen/ccl-ryzen-gs-gaming-pc/

(get OS ISO from MS and get a code from ebay....) 

I think he prefers intel, but this may work out better on his budget. 

Yeah, that's better. The 2600X is going to last longer than the 8400 and it'll outperform it by a bit.

[LogicWeasel]

@theunnamedgamerEdit: Update - I did manage to find some tempting options that compete with the eBuyer build:

 

I did manage to find a same day build that beats it on price direct from CyberPowerUK, but the HDD goes to 1TB and CPU goes to an i3-8100, that's still a quad-core (but PC has significant savings and it ships next day) for (GBP symbol) 775 including VAT: http://www.cyberpowersystem.co.uk/saved/1543648

 

I tried seeing if I can match using another i5 customized build, and it turned out being an upgrade with a GTX 1070 and better cpu cooling, ram speed (16GB @ 3000Mhz), and case change for around (GBP symbol)1090 including VAT: http://www.cyberpowersystem.co.uk/saved/1543635

[3 Lions]

1 hour ago, theunnamedgamer said:

You think I haven't been trying? XD.

All my friends have, but all have given up.

I'm basically gonna help him find a good value system, rather than spending a lot and getting ripped off.. 

If you are a competent PC builder then I see very little reason for him to reject this as an option. I would say this to him and reassure him that he is good hands with regards to PC building, another thing you could say is that you'd have to help him set up Windows anyway so it wouldn't be much different from building a custom PC the only difference is that you'd have to build the system before Windows could be set up. 

 

Pre-builts while in recent years have improved, I would personally not spend money on them. They are just slapped together in any old way and are not built with care either, it's mass production so the builder wants to build as many systems as possible to get paid his wages and with doing that no care is put into the system. Pre-builts also cheap out on things like the PSU and motherboard which are the most vital parts in a PC. 

[LogicWeasel]

Also to throw AMD in the mix, if he was willing to take an AMD R3 2300X (4 cores @3.5Ghz) you get a GTX 1070 build for 963 (including VAT): 

http://www.cyberpowersystem.co.uk/saved/1543672

 

It can serve as a good jumping-off link if you wanted to trim cost in areas or beef-up certain things (like case choice, PSU quality, CPU cooling, etc, you know the drill).  At least with the customizer you get choice as compared to what's in the box from eBuyer.

[Cereal5]

This makes no sense... you offered to build one for free for him. You literally get better parts at better prices. A better PC for less money. I don’t know who would want to spend more money for parts that aren’t as good. All the stuff you buy individually come with warranties... this guy needs some reason slapped into him. Give him a good prebuilt and then show him something similar custom. If you already did this then just give him what he wants. I buy power, origin pc, cyber something or other, Walmart. Lol walmart. Still gets me