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New Rig, Is it worth it?

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I am in the process of pricing out/piecing out a new gaming rig. I am not a very rigorous gamer at all, so light gaming and some light video and photo editing would be its main use. I don't have a big budget, but want that bang for my buck.. Is it worth it to go current gen CPU and DDR4 or should I go DDR3 and an older gen cpu model?

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1 minute ago, _Drahcir_ said:

Current gen and ddr4 there is no need for the old stuff

What's your reasoning?

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Cause older stuff is less efficient and performs much worse for its price. My conclusion: go with Ryzen it has the best bang for the buck of all time

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13 minutes ago, _Drahcir_ said:

best bang for the buck of all time

Not entirely sure about that but ok.

 

Getting used stuff is generally a good idea if you get it for a good discount, but if you're only saving 20% by getting haswell over Ryzen, it's not worth it. 

A reasonable scenario would be buying a 4770k and a Z87 board with 16GB of DDR3 all for a grand total of $250 or something. $300 for 16GB, a decent B450 motherboard and a Ryzen 5 CPU is on the low end so you'd actually be making a decent move, but to an extent you do get what you paid for so you'll still have a better PC with Ryzen.

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If I go Ryzen.. First or second gen?

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A ryzen build is very cheap atm and lots of performance.

Might wanna go for a used gpu tho. Thats what i would do

I am here to learn, please correct me if im wrong or you see me putting bs on your screen!

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Just now, BCart said:

If I go Ryzen.. First or second gen?

Second gen is way better. But make sure to get a 4.. series board to get all new features of a second gen.

I am here to learn, please correct me if im wrong or you see me putting bs on your screen!

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1 minute ago, BelgianNoise said:

Second gen is way better. But make sure to get a 4.. series board to get all new features of a second gen.

But, can you really justify the additional price on a budget?

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2 minutes ago, BCart said:

But, can you really justify the additional price on a budget?

Yes you pay a little more, second gen(this is for the r7 2700x, numerous websites say so) gives u 10-15% more performance on a 4.. series then on a 3.. series.

For myself i would go for the second gen. I dont know how much it costs more then a first gen where u live. But where i live its only like 30 on cpu en 20 on mobo.

Also newer gens are more futureproof i guess

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Didnt really justify the cpu. But the second gen with 4.. series mobo gives it a segnificant better perf then a first gen.

Its just the comvo thats way better

I am here to learn, please correct me if im wrong or you see me putting bs on your screen!

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43 minutes ago, BCart said:

I am in the process of pricing out/piecing out a new gaming rig. I am not a very rigorous gamer at all, so light gaming and some light video and photo editing would be its main use. I don't have a big budget, but want that bang for my buck.. Is it worth it to go current gen CPU and DDR4 or should I go DDR3 and an older gen cpu model?

Go to Newegg.com and look at their refurbished PC's - I personally sort by Intel processor I want (most OEM AMD stuff is..not worth even browsing lol), then by price and peruse from there.  You can get a good deal on some i5 3 series or 4 series and pay around $140 for a full functioning PC.  I have less than $200 in my media center in my sig (had the GPU and ram already) and can play GTA 5, ARK on lowest settings, Battlefield 4 etc.  Just depends on your budget and needs.

 

Heck if that's all your going to use it for (light gaming, and light video photo editing) I wouldn't see the reason to buy something new.  If you want best bang for used buck - Look up T3500 workstations with an X5690 Xeon CPU for less than 300...add in an HDD, and OS (can be free) and you will have a great PC.  They typically come with a 6c/12t processor, some Quadro FX card (1700 series usually) and just need the HDD and OS.

 

EDIT - here, heres one for less than $220 shipped, put in an HDD or SSD, get a cheap key from Ebay for Win10 and...off to the races for under 300 bucks.  And it will ABSOLUTELY achieve everything you are wanting and more.

 

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIAC0F7F36675&cm_re=x5690-_-1VK-0001-1FEV2-_-Product

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It all depends on where you live and budget. Here in Brazil, my old ass system cost much less than if I were to buy a new system, specially with the sky high DDR4 prices.

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