What cooler should I get?

[Hetznaz]

I recently picked up a Ryzen 5 2600 and I can't decide what kind of cooler to go with, I do plan on overclocking, but I can't decide if I should spend the money and get an AIO with a 240 rad (EVGA CLC 240) or a high end air cooler (my gpu is already water-cooled with a 120mm AIO, and I'm using a Meshify C TG). I do play games for long periods of time (4-6 hours non-stop)


My build: 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor	$224.30 @ Amazon Canada
Motherboard	MSI - B450-A PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard	$101.99 @ PC-Canada
Memory	Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory	$164.99 @ Mike's Computer Shop
Storage	Western Digital - Blue 1TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive	$179.99 @ Amazon Canada
Storage	Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	$73.75 @ Vuugo
Video Card	EVGA - GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8GB SC HYBRID GAMING Video Card	$591.29 @ Amazon Canada
Case	Fractal Design - Meshify C TG ATX Mid Tower Case	$119.99 @ Newegg Canada
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$1456.30
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-10-31 16:01 EDT-0400

 

[Slottr]

Definitely go for air cooling, has far less problems than AIOs, don't have to worry about pump failing and all that jazz.

 

I use the D15 on my R7 1700 and it keeps it amazingly cool.

[LukeSavenije]

d15 is a great choise.

if you want something simulair for a simulair pricing and a bit different look the Be Quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 is great too!

[Altruist]

1 minute ago, Slottr said:

Definitely go for air cooling, has far less problems than AIOs, don't have to worry about pump failing and all that jazz.

 

I use the D15 on my R7 1700 and it keeps it amazingly cool.

I agree

[Hetznaz]

My only problem with the D15 and the Dark rock pro 4 is size, I personally don't want a cooler that fills half my case. I will look at some low-profile air coolers and see if there are any I like

[r2724r16]

2 minutes ago, Hetznaz said:

My only problem with the D15 and the Dark rock pro 4 is size, I personally don't want a cooler that fills half my case. I will look at some low-profile air coolers and see if there are any I like

Then check out the Arctic Freezer 33 eSports ONE. 

[LukeSavenije]

4 minutes ago, Hetznaz said:

My only problem with the D15 and the Dark rock pro 4 is size, I personally don't want a cooler that fills half my case. I will look at some low-profile air coolers and see if there are any I like

then a aio might be a better choise here. evga does make great ones for oc'ing

[wONKEyeYEs]

29 minutes ago, Hetznaz said:

or a high end air cooler

The Dark Rock TF works for me.

 

 

[Hetznaz]

All the air coolers I can find that will provide adequate cooling are way too large, and all the ones I find that are a size I like won't provide the cooling performance I need to OC a 2600 and keep it below 80 degrees, hence why I'm debating going AIO (would go with one of EK's A240 beginner water-cooling kits but they're a little too expensive for me at just over $160 usd)

[Brasdos]

With that chip air cooling will work just fine. Only go for the aio for aesthetic purposes and if you have the space in your case. There are some great looking air coolers as well.

[Brasdos]

3 hours ago, Hetznaz said:

All the air coolers I can find that will provide adequate cooling are way too large, and all the ones I find that are a size I like won't provide the cooling performance I need to OC a 2600 and keep it below 80 degrees, hence why I'm debating going AIO (would go with one of EK's A240 beginner water-cooling kits but they're a little too expensive for me at just over $160 usd)

Search for low profile air coolers, life the g100m by cooler master. It should be fine even if oc. Also the a240 is NOT an aio, it is a budget full custom loop. If u want to

go that route sure but it is going to be a lot of work to build.

[Vonix]

I wouldn't go with 2400mhz ram. unless ur gonna manualy OC it. There are some 3200mhz kits out there. or even something like a 3000mhz. (Ryzen 2600 runs optimal over 3000mhz) Check some benchmarks on youtube. theres a significant difference in ram speed. 

[xg32]

10 hours ago, Hetznaz said:

I recently picked up a Ryzen 5 2600 and I can't decide what kind of cooler to go with, I do plan on overclocking, but I can't decide if I should spend the money and get an AIO with a 240 rad (EVGA CLC 240) or a high end air cooler (my gpu is already water-cooled with a 120mm AIO, and I'm using a Meshify C TG). I do play games for long periods of time (4-6 hours non-stop)


My build: 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor	$224.30 @ Amazon Canada
Motherboard	MSI - B450-A PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard	$101.99 @ PC-Canada
Memory	Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory	$164.99 @ Mike's Computer Shop
Storage	Western Digital - Blue 1TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive	$179.99 @ Amazon Canada
Storage	Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	$73.75 @ Vuugo
Video Card	EVGA - GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8GB SC HYBRID GAMING Video Card	$591.29 @ Amazon Canada
Case	Fractal Design - Meshify C TG ATX Mid Tower Case	$119.99 @ Newegg Canada
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$1456.30
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-10-31 16:01 EDT-0400

 

i'd recommend at least 3200 on ram with ryzen

that m2 isnt nvme

the stock cooler will do 4.0 just about fine, unless you are going for 4.2, you are losing more performance on the ram more than anything by far, so upgrade that before your cooler if you are on a budget.

 

spending 100bucks more on ram will net you about 15% more performance while using a aio for 100bucks will give about 5%, of course, you can do both.

 

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820232306&cm_re=gskill_trident_z_3600-_-20-232-306-_-Product

[WoodenMarker]

20 hours ago, Hetznaz said:

My only problem with the D15 and the Dark rock pro 4 is size, I personally don't want a cooler that fills half my case.

Is the problem of size a matter of aesthetics, ease of installation, or something else?

 

Moved to Air Cooling. 

[LogicalDrm]

15 hours ago, Hetznaz said:

My only problem with the D15 and the Dark rock pro 4 is size, I personally don't want a cooler that fills half my case. I will look at some low-profile air coolers and see if there are any I like

 

Then don't look at dual towers, smaller single towers, like the mentioned Arctic Freezer 33 eSports ONE or U12S for example are quite enough, latter is said to be best price/performance for Ryzen.

 

15 hours ago, Hetznaz said:

All the air coolers I can find that will provide adequate cooling are way too large, and all the ones I find that are a size I like won't provide the cooling performance I need to OC a 2600 and keep it below 80 degrees, hence why I'm debating going AIO (would go with one of EK's A240 beginner water-cooling kits but they're a little too expensive for me at just over $160 usd)

 

Why you don't like big coolers? Are you looking only dual towers, have you looked at diffirent single towers? You can't have both, performance and smaller size as cooling, both with AIO and air, is based on surface area of heatsink/rad. Bigger the surface area, better the performance. AIOs using water and more of it to carry heat provide bit better performance, but if you look at even 120mm single rad, those are still quite large.

[_Hustler_One_]

Get Schythe Fuma if you can find one.

 

It's a 120mm dual tower, low height, but that'll be a rare one of air cooler now.

I've found 1 unit was sold on one of marketplace I can't remember several months ago when I was looking for high performance 120mm air cooler, but the price is too damn high.. It was around $165 USD (if I'm not mistaken) for a small 120mm cooler.

 

Idk how its availability now..

[Hetznaz]

11 hours ago, LoGiCalDrm said:

 

Then don't look at dual towers, smaller single towers, like the mentioned Arctic Freezer 33 eSports ONE or U12S for example are quite enough, latter is said to be best price/performance for Ryzen.

 

 

Why you don't like big coolers? Are you looking only dual towers, have you looked at diffirent single towers? You can't have both, performance and smaller size as cooling, both with AIO and air, is based on surface area of heatsink/rad. Bigger the surface area, better the performance. AIOs using water and more of it to carry heat provide bit better performance, but if you look at even 120mm single rad, those are still quite large.

its not like I don't like the overall size of coolers, I just don't want half my motherboard covered by and ugly hunk of aluminum with some fans strapped on it (single or dual tower, its still large). I wouldn't go with anything smaller then 240 for rads but I'm trying to find out if the EK A240g will fit my GPU and if it does, I'm gonna go with that





As for ram, I already had that 16gb kit sitting around and I don't really wanna spend another $200 on ram plus $50-200 on a cooler (I'm Canadian, so everything is more expensive unless on sale) (I still have to buy a new monitor, and custom cables for my PSU)

[LogicalDrm]

27 minutes ago, Hetznaz said:

its not like I don't like the overall size of coolers, I just don't want half my motherboard covered by and ugly hunk of aluminum with some fans strapped on it (single or dual tower, its still large).

AIO it is then. Only high end dual towers can compete with 240mm and some 280mm AIOs.

[Hetznaz]

3 hours ago, LoGiCalDrm said:

AIO it is then. Only high end dual towers can compete with 240mm and some 280mm AIOs.

Hence my asking here, do I go with the full cooling performance of a 240 coupled with the fact that it has the look that I like, but at the cost extra Canadian rupees, or do a save a few bucks and get something I hate the look of that provides the same cooling

 

16 hours ago, WoodenMarker said:

Is the problem of size a matter of aesthetics, ease of installation, or something else?

 

Moved to Air Cooling. 

And yes it is a matter of aesthetics more then anything else

[LogicalDrm]

45 minutes ago, Hetznaz said:

Hence my asking here, do I go with the full cooling performance of a 240 coupled with the fact that it has the look that I like, but at the cost extra Canadian rupees, or do a save a few bucks and get something I hate the look of that provides the same cooling

 

And yes it is a matter of aesthetics more then anything else

 

If you want something specific, then you just get it. Its only one hit, and your preferences might change in 3 years that cooler is at is prime. For me looks inside the case are meaningless. I don't have window and case sits in place where I only see front of it (and top is being used as extra table space). Which is why I have Noctua.

[WoodenMarker]

On 11/1/2018 at 2:10 PM, Hetznaz said:

Hence my asking here, do I go with the full cooling performance of a 240 coupled with the fact that it has the look that I like, but at the cost extra Canadian rupees, or do a save a few bucks and get something I hate the look of that provides the same cooling

And yes it is a matter of aesthetics more then anything else

If you have a specific AIO you like the aesthetic of, then go for that.

Otherwise, the best value 240mm seems to be the Liquid Freezer 240 which performs similarly to the ECLC 240 but is much quieter: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/Dt8H99/arctic-cooling-cpu-cooler-acfre00013a

The AM4 kit is free from Arctic with an invoice for proof of purchase: https://www.arctic.ac/us_en/products/cooling/cpu/am4.html