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Hello everyone

 

I've decided to upgrade my "spend first few paychecks PC", and CPU is on the list. At the moment i'm running i5 6600K paired with Gigabytes 1080Ti, and I waited for 9th gen to release cause i wanted to see what happens. As much as benchmarks look good, paying over 875$ (in my country at least) for 9900K is a no go. I'm also switching to 1440p, 144Hz monitor cause i'm perfectly aware that this 1080Ti (swithed from 970 last year cause i got sweet deal through a friend) is an overkill for 1080p monitor. I'd need an advise as to what to upgrade to. I'm fully aware that at the moment Ryzen is the best performance for money but i've always been with Intel so not sure I'd switch, old habbits die hard i guess. Since they're fairly similar in cost i'm debating between 9700K and 8700K but i don't want to spend money when i don't have to. Liquid cooling loop parts are already waiting so i'm going to OC this without temps being that big of an issue. As to what is it's destination: gaming. Random titles, random genres, new, old, pretty much anything i'll find interesting so high performance will be needed as well. With either of those CPUs i'll need new motherboard so if possible i'd be glad to get some recommendations for that as well.

i might have missed some details you'll need so ask away, happy to provide it

 

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The 8700K since it's a better value with a Prime Z370-A

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6 minutes ago, ShaggyPB said:

 

Wait for Ryzen 3000 early next year if you can to get a cheap effective 6 or 8 core CPU

 

Otherwise an R5 2600 is the best value CPU currently, or just get an 8700K and maybe get it delidded.

I edit my posts a lot, Twitter is @LordStreetguru just don't ask PC questions there mostly...
 

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What is your budget/country for your new PC?

 

what monitor resolution/refresh rate?

 

What games or other software do you need to run?

 

 

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What's the price difference between the 8700k and the 9700k?
The 9700k showed to be a better performer in games than the 9900k.

 

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10 hours ago, dizmo said:

What's the price difference between the 8700k and the 9700k?
The 9700k showed to be a better performer in games than the 9900k.

 

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With quick currency calc:

 

8700K would be 583

9700K would be 689

 

so it's still quite a bit but not as much as 875$... plus I've recently saved up a bit cause I decided to go with Define R6 instead of a full tower like Dark Base Pro 900. That's why I consider it but at the same time don't want to spend money just for the sake of spending it

 

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6 hours ago, ShaggyPB said:

With quick currency calc:

 

8700K would be 583

9700K would be 689

 

so it's still quite a bit but not as much as 875$... plus I've recently saved up a bit cause I decided to go with Define R6 instead of a full tower like Dark Base Pro 900. That's why I consider it but at the same time don't want to spend money just for the sake of spending it

 

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I'd go with the 9700k.

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The 9700k is better, yes but if the price difference between the 8700k and the 9700k is significant for you, I think the 8700k will do you fine with the 1080ti. What @Streetguru said about waiting for the new ryzen stuff is true though. The 3000 ryzen's are predicted to be realllly good, and if you're willing to make that switch i think you'll be happy with it. I love Intel too, but if you wait for the new ryzen stuff you'll be able to save more money.

 

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5 hours ago, mxk. said:

The 9700k is better, yes but if the price difference between the 8700k and the 9700k is significant for you, I think the 8700k will do you fine with the 1080ti. What @Streetguru said about waiting for the new ryzen stuff is true though. The 3000 ryzen's are predicted to be realllly good, and if you're willing to make that switch i think you'll be happy with it. I love Intel too, but if you wait for the new ryzen stuff you'll be able to save more money.

 

Yeah i know it's coming soon but i've posponed ugrade by 3-4 months already cause i heard of 9th gen, now i'd add another 6 to wait for Ryzen and let's be honest, considering tech... there's always some other rumor about something coming soon. If i'd make this post when 3000 series is out there might be something yet again from intel that they miraculously figured out their 10nm issue and bring 10th gen in another 5 months (doubtful but who knows)

It's awesome and i appreciate that you guys give well though and reasonable advices not some elitist crap like "9900K all the way!" but i just don't want to end in a loop of "wait a tiny bit and groundbreaking CPU comes along"

when i mentioned i don't want to spend money when i don't have to i didn't mean that i have a tight budget, i love tech so if i have to cough up more then be it, just not spend it in stupid way 

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15 hours ago, dizmo said:

-I'd go with the 9700k.

Can you recommend a good motherboard that would handle it well if i would go with it? Cause as Steve from Hardwere Unboxed explained it, a good VRM and motherboard matters a lot 

Also you've mentioned that 9700K sometimes shows better results than 9900K in games but when i checked some benchmarks FPS between 9700K and 8700K had not that much of a diffrence of maybe 2-5 on average

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if you wait for ryzen 3000, you are going to save money, because even if you do not like amd, the arrival of these processors surely forces intel to lower prices.

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I also have a i5 6600k, I'm going to change to something below 14nm of intel or I'm going to amd .. I think all the expense right now that involves the update is not worth a skylake refresh refresh refresh, nothing new in architecture since 2015 , only cores and higher frequencies.

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On 10/24/2018 at 7:26 PM, dizmo said:

The 9700k showed to be a better performer in games than the 9900k.

This actually isn't true, day one reviews just ran into a little 'bug' with Hyper-Threading which is patched already by Microsoft, Windows Scheduler is just lame.

 

Either ways the i7 8700K and i7 9700K are identical in gaming for the most part, if one can afford the slightly premium for the newer chip that's great, if not it hardly really matters.

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14 hours ago, Princess Cadence said:

This actually isn't true, day one reviews just ran into a little 'bug' with Hyper-Threading which is patched already by Microsoft, Windows Scheduler is just lame.

 

Either ways the i7 8700K and i7 9700K are identical in gaming for the most part, if one can afford the slightly premium for the newer chip that's great, if not it hardly really matters.

I remember the days when you could read reviews right when they were released and they'd paint a realistic picture of a product...

I miss those days.

Why even bother reading or watching reviews anymore. ?

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CPU: Intel i3 4160 Cooler: Integrated Motherboard: Integrated

RAM: G.Skill RipJaws 16GB DDR3 Storage: Transcend MSA370 128GB GPU: Intel 4400 Graphics

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Monitor: LG 29WK500 Mouse: G.Skill MX780 Keyboard: G.Skill KM780 Cherry MX Red

 

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RAM: Crucial LPX 16GB DDR4 Storage: Intel S3510 800GB GPU: Nvidia GTX 980

PSU: Corsair CX650M Case: EVGA DG73

Monitor: LG 29WK500 Mouse: G.Skill MX780 Keyboard: G.Skill KM780 Cherry MX Red

 

OG Gaming Rig - Gone

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CPU: Intel i5 4690k Cooler: Corsair H100i V2 Motherboard: MSI Z97i AC ITX

RAM: Crucial Ballistix 16GB DDR3 Storage: Kingston Fury 240GB GPU: Asus Strix GTX 970

PSU: Thermaltake TR2 Case: Phanteks Enthoo Evolv ITX

Monitor: Dell P2214H x2 Mouse: Logitech MX Master Keyboard: G.Skill KM780 Cherry MX Red

 

 

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