PC Rendering 3000$

[Mephistopt]

Hi guys

I'm building a PC for my brother, my aim is to have all the components in the end of December. The main use is rendering and video editing in Adobe Premiere Pro (professional video). As I said in the topic, my budget is 3000$, I'm from Portugal, so it's a flexible limit. I'm an architect and I will also be using this PC to model 3D and ArchiViz, using Archicad, Enscape, Unreal and Photoshop. I'll also be mounting 3D topography from drone footage. Gaming in this rig will be completely tertiary. My idea is to use the new chipset x299, maybe a Intel Core i7-7820X and a top graphic card. I'm thinking a RTX 2080 TI, I don't know if it's possible within this budget. In terms of storage I want the base to be two SSD Samsung 512GB SSD 970 Pro NVMe M.2 or 960 Pro and one HDD of 4 TB. Memory I'm thinking about 64 GB because of the 3D topography mapping and 4K film editing. Can you recommend something within this parameters? I dont' want any kind of peripherals or monitors, just the PC. I'm having a lot of doubts in which motherboard to choose, Power and cooling. Case is one big qustion mark too. For me looks don't matter, RGB is the new trend I know, but 99% of the time the case will be under the desk, so... Who cares.

I like to thanks in front for any help provided

TKS  

[Zando_]

I'd go for a 1080 Ti, heck you could get 2 for the same price as one 2080 Ti if you shop around. And X99 is actually a rather old platform, if it's multicore you need look at the Ryzen 7 2700X or maybe even threadripper if you can fit it in your budget. Lemme hop on PCPartPicker and see what I can come up with. 

[AntiTrust]

9 minutes ago, Mephistopt said:

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I would try to piece together a computer that resembles the Genesis 1 or Genesis 2 from Puget Systems. 

 

https://www.pugetsystems.com/nav/genesis/I/customize.php

 

might help give you a jumping off point. 

[DVA]

1 minute ago, AntiTrust said:

I would try to piece together a computer that resembles the Genesis 1 or Genesis 2 from Puget Systems. These guys are pretty well respected PC builders and they do lifetime service on their machines so they generally use parts that are highly reliable. 

 

https://www.pugetsystems.com/nav/genesis/I/customize.php

 

might help give you a jumping off point. 

Just checked it out and holy crap that is overpriced!

I understand it's for reference, but aside from that. ouchhh

[Dominik999]

9 minutes ago, Zando Bob said:

I'd go for a 1080 Ti, heck you could get 2 for the same price as one 2080 Ti if you shop around. And X99 is actually a rather old platform, if it's multicore you need look at the Ryzen 7 2700X or maybe even threadripper if you can fit it in your budget. Lemme hop on PCPartPicker and see what I can come up with. 

I agree with that.

[AntiTrust]

Just now, DVA said:

Just checked it out and holy crap that is overpriced!

I understand it's for reference, but aside from that. ouchhh

oh yeah it is, they generally service big business and government contracts so a large part of their pricetag pays for service end stuff. Thats why I wouldn't necessarily buy from them but I would copy their builds because they get like actual scientists to design their computers

[Mephistopt]

threadripper is promising, but I don't know how it will handle with premiere. I think I made a mistake, I wanted to say X299, I'm not an expert in motherboard talking sorry. My idea is to choose a MOBO that can handle the next 2/3 years. 

[DrMacintosh]

10 minutes ago, Zando Bob said:

if it's multicore you need look at the Ryzen 7 2700X or maybe even threadripper

I'd drop the 2080Ti and get a TR. The x86 cores are going to do a lot more for the render than the Cuda or OpenCL would. 

[Zando_]

6 minutes ago, Zando Bob said:

I'd go for a 1080 Ti, heck you could get 2 for the same price as one 2080 Ti if you shop around. And X99 is actually a rather old platform, if it's multicore you need look at the Ryzen 7 2700X or maybe even threadripper if you can fit it in your budget. Lemme hop on PCPartPicker and see what I can come up with. 

 To continue on that, if you go with an R7 2700X you could get this (that's the same CPU, cooler, and mobo I have so I can confirm they're pretty great, haven't tried any overclocking yet though):

 

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6knf29
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6knf29/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 2700X 3.7GHz 8-Core Processor  ($318.89 @ OutletPC) 
CPU Cooler: EVGA - CLC 280 113.5 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($109.98 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Asus - ROG STRIX B450-F GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($124.01 @ B&H) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 64GB (4 x 16GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($580.98 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Samsung - 970 Pro 512GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($197.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Samsung - 970 Pro 512GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($197.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: Asus - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB STRIX GAMING Video Card  ($719.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Fractal Design - Define R6 Gunmetal TG ATX Mid Tower Case  ($109.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($89.99 @ B&H) 
Total: $2449.81
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-09-25 11:26 EDT-0400

 

That leaves you $500 of wiggle room in the budget, if you shop around for deals on 1080 Tis you can get them for $550-600 or so sometimes, so you could fit 2 in the budget, and SLI 1080 Tis should outdo one 2080 Ti in most render tasks and any games that scale well with SLI. IDK about 4TB HDDs though, it'd probs be cheaper to go with 2x 2TB Seagate Barracuda drives, I also have one of those and they're great, and only about $60 each. 

 

If you content yourself with going a bit over budget and only using one 1080 Ti, you can stuff in a 16 core TR2 CPU:

 

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gJWpV6
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gJWpV6/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Threadripper 2950X 3.5GHz 16-Core Processor  ($898.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
CPU Cooler: Fractal Design - Celsius S36 87.6 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($119.99 @ Newegg) 
Motherboard: ASRock - X399 Taichi ATX TR4 Motherboard  ($323.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 64GB (4 x 16GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($580.98 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Samsung - 970 Pro 512GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($197.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Samsung - 970 Pro 512GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($197.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB AMP Edition Video Card  ($679.99 @ B&H) 
Case: Fractal Design - Define R6 Gunmetal TG ATX Mid Tower Case  ($109.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($89.99 @ B&H) 
Total: $3199.89
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-09-25 11:33 EDT-0400

 

 

 

[DrMacintosh]

4 minutes ago, Mephistopt said:

hreadripper is promising, but I don't know how it will handle with premiere.

Threadripper works great in Premiere. It could always be better but you should be informed 

 

[brob]

Good data on Premiere Pro performance with various cpu, https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Premiere-Pro-CC-2018-AMD-Threadripper-2990WX-2950X-Performance-1218/..

 

Suggested hardware for Premiere Pro, including benchmark data https://www.pugetsystems.com/recommended/Recommended-Systems-for-Adobe-Premiere-Pro-CC-143/Hardware-Recommendations.

 

I'm not sure this will price out locally within your budget. 

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-7820X 3.6GHz 8-Core Processor  ($800.00) 
CPU Cooler: be quiet! - Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler  ($84.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Motherboard: Asus - TUF X299 MARK 2 ATX LGA2066 Motherboard  ($243.76 @ Amazon) 
Memory: G.Skill - Sniper X 64GB (4 x 16GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($525.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Samsung - 970 Pro 512GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($197.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Samsung - 970 Pro 512GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($197.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Seagate - IronWolf 4TB 3.5" 5900RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($119.56 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce RTX 2080 8GB XC GAMING Video Card  ($810.00 @ B&H) 
Case: Fractal Design - Define S ATX Mid Tower Case  ($89.98 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($104.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $3175.25
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-09-25 11:40 EDT-0400

[Mephistopt]

24 minutes ago, Zando Bob said:

 To continue on that, if you go with an R7 2700X you could get this (that's the same CPU, cooler, and mobo I have so I can confirm they're pretty great, haven't tried any overclocking yet though):

 

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6knf29
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6knf29/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 2700X 3.7GHz 8-Core Processor  ($318.89 @ OutletPC) 
CPU Cooler: EVGA - CLC 280 113.5 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($109.98 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Asus - ROG STRIX B450-F GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($124.01 @ B&H) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 64GB (4 x 16GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($580.98 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Samsung - 970 Pro 512GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($197.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Samsung - 970 Pro 512GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($197.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: Asus - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB STRIX GAMING Video Card  ($719.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Fractal Design - Define R6 Gunmetal TG ATX Mid Tower Case  ($109.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($89.99 @ B&H) 
Total: $2449.81
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-09-25 11:26 EDT-0400

 

That leaves you $500 of wiggle room in the budget, if you shop around for deals on 1080 Tis you can get them for $550-600 or so sometimes, so you could fit 2 in the budget, and SLI 1080 Tis should outdo one 2080 Ti in most render tasks and any games that scale well with SLI. IDK about 4TB HDDs though, it'd probs be cheaper to go with 2x 2TB Seagate Barracuda drives, I also have one of those and they're great, and only about $60 each. 

 

If you content yourself with going a bit over budget and only using one 1080 Ti, you can stuff in a 16 core TR2 CPU:

 

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gJWpV6
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gJWpV6/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Threadripper 2950X 3.5GHz 16-Core Processor  ($898.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
CPU Cooler: Fractal Design - Celsius S36 87.6 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($119.99 @ Newegg) 
Motherboard: ASRock - X399 Taichi ATX TR4 Motherboard  ($323.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 64GB (4 x 16GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($580.98 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Samsung - 970 Pro 512GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($197.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Samsung - 970 Pro 512GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($197.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB AMP Edition Video Card  ($679.99 @ B&H) 
Case: Fractal Design - Define R6 Gunmetal TG ATX Mid Tower Case  ($109.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($89.99 @ B&H) 
Total: $3199.89
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-09-25 11:33 EDT-0400

 

 

 

That are 2 fantastic builds, thanks for the help. I'm more and more convinced about the Threadripper, and the first build with 2 1080 tis is great. 

 

15 minutes ago, brob said:

Good data on Premiere Pro performance with various cpu, https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Premiere-Pro-CC-2018-AMD-Threadripper-2990WX-2950X-Performance-1218/..

 

Suggested hardware for Premiere Pro, including benchmark data https://www.pugetsystems.com/recommended/Recommended-Systems-for-Adobe-Premiere-Pro-CC-143/Hardware-Recommendations.

 

I'm not sure this will price out locally within your budget. 

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-7820X 3.6GHz 8-Core Processor  ($800.00) 
CPU Cooler: be quiet! - Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler  ($84.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Motherboard: Asus - TUF X299 MARK 2 ATX LGA2066 Motherboard  ($243.76 @ Amazon) 
Memory: G.Skill - Sniper X 64GB (4 x 16GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($525.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Samsung - 970 Pro 512GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($197.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Samsung - 970 Pro 512GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($197.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Seagate - IronWolf 4TB 3.5" 5900RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($119.56 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce RTX 2080 8GB XC GAMING Video Card  ($810.00 @ B&H) 
Case: Fractal Design - Define S ATX Mid Tower Case  ($89.98 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($104.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $3175.25
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-09-25 11:40 EDT-0400

After a lot of reading, I understand that AMD are very good with RED media, which is not this case. I'll be working with non RED media, and now I'm not sure if Intel is worth the money lol 

Once again thanks a lot for the help guys.. The 2 builds AMD and Intel are great and I think the difference is minimal.. I don't know

[Zando_]

5 minutes ago, Mephistopt said:

That are 2 fantastic builds, thanks for the help. I'm more and more convinced about the Threadripper, and the first build with 2 1080 tis is great. 

 

After a lot of reading, I understand that AMD are very good with RED media, which is not this case. I'll be working with non RED media, and now I'm not sure if Intel is worth the money lol 

Once again thanks a lot for the help guys.. The 2 builds AMD and Intel are great and I think the difference is minimal.. I don't know

Deciding between Intel and Nvidia should be easy if the budget isn't the issue. Does your workload favor higher clockspeeds/IPC? Then Intel. If it favors multicore then AMD is pretty much the king right now. If budget is an issue, then again AMD is really ruling the price to performance market right now, unless you're gaming at 144Hz or higher, which isn't the point of this rig. 

 

Personally I'd go with AMD (and did, thus why I'm running an R7 2700X instead of an 8700K), since they're usually better for rendering work because more cores, and usually at least slightly cheaper. 

[Mephistopt]

After all the greats explanations AMD seems a better choice mainly because the price/power factor. I'll continue to investigate, read and discuss with my brother but AMD is in the lead. Thanks for the help, this builds are fantastic starting points.

[dogwitch]

should be noted some heat sinks for T.R.  wont work on some mobo. coolmaster one wont work on the tachi mobo.  due to vrm heat sink and also if you have more then 2 sticks of ram

[Mephistopt]

On 25/09/2018 at 10:24 PM, dogwitch said:

should be noted some heat sinks for T.R.  wont work on some mobo. coolmaster one wont work on the tachi mobo.  due to vrm heat sink and also if you have more then 2 sticks of ram

thanks for the warning!

 

[dogwitch]

your welcome.  i learn the hard way.