Switch to intel?

[Guest]

I pre ordered a 2080 ti and I'm pretty sure that my Ryzen 1600 is going to bottleneck it, I'm pretty interested in the 8700k and I can wait for the 9700k for it to release but i'm not really sure. I rarely ever record anything or do anything other than gaming. Would a 8700k/9700k be better than Ryzen? I can also get a 8700k + a good Z370 for $400 + taxes at microcenter. Thanks in advance.

[Slottr]

Wait for intels 9th gen.

 

If youre strictly gaming then yeah, going intel may be more useful for you

[xg32]

3 minutes ago, Slottr said:

Wait for intels 9th gen.

 

If youre strictly gaming then yeah, going intel may be more useful for you

the 9700k won't have hyperthreading so it might actually be similar to the 8700k, unless you are going for the 9900k, a cheap 8700k is a decent deal.

 

Though if the 9700k is soldered you will get some beast single threaded performance purely for gaming.

[Slottr]

1 minute ago, xg32 said:

the 9700k won't have hyperthreading so it might actually be similar to the 8700k, unless you are going for the 9900k, a cheap 8700k is a decent deal.

 

Though if the 9700k is soldered you might get some beast single threaded performance purely for gaming.

Exactly, unless the guy can get a fairly cheap 8700k then I'd just say wait anyways, never know what it will offer.

[Guest]

13 minutes ago, Slottr said:

Wait for intels 9th gen.

 

If youre strictly gaming then yeah, going intel may be more useful for you

yea I can wait, Have to wait for the 2080 ti anyways so it's fine. Another question when is 9700k suppose to arrive?

[Slottr]

4 minutes ago, Masr said:

yea I can wait, Have to wait for the 2080 ti anyways so it's fine. Another question when is 9700k suppose to arrive?

Supposedly early october.

 

Heres some released performance for it: https://wccftech.com/intel-core-i9-9900k-core-i7-9700k-core-i5-9600k-cpu-performance-leak/

[GoldenLag]

wait for Ryzen 3000. much better upgrade path.

5 minutes ago, Masr said:

yea I can wait, Have to wait for the 2080 ti anyways so it's fine. Another question when is 9700k suppose to arrive?

9700k is nolonger the top chip and wont have hyperthreading. 

[Guest]

1 minute ago, GoldenLag said:

wait for Ryzen 3000. much better upgrade path.

9700k is nolonger the top chip and wont have hyperthreading. 

Don't really want ryzen because I'm never doing anything with multi threaded applications. I rarely even record, All I do is just play. 

[geo3]

19 minutes ago, xg32 said:

the 9700k won't have hyperthreading so it might actually be similar to the 8700k,

Having more real physical cores is much better than hyperthreading. Also there will be small clock and IPC improvements which games will benefit from.

[Guest]

4 minutes ago, Slottr said:

Supposedly early october.

 

Heres some released performance for it: https://wccftech.com/intel-core-i9-9900k-core-i7-9700k-core-i5-9600k-cpu-performance-leak/

That's pretty good ngl, and that's around the same time my 2080 ti will ship (Best buy). It obviously destroys my 1600 in single threaded and also destroys it in multi threaded even though I won't even need it at all.

[GoldenLag]

1 minute ago, Masr said:

Don't really want ryzen because I'm never doing anything with multi threaded applications. I rarely even record, All I do is just play. 

Ryzen 3000 gives you the clockspeed you want. rumoured 5ghz based purely on node spec. when accounting for other things it wither 5ghz or better

[GoldenLag]

2 minutes ago, geo3 said:

Having more real physical cores is much better than hyperthreading. Also there will be small clock and IPC improvements which games will benefit from.

"better" once the threads are used up it gets worse. also there is no IPC improvement, actually probably worse IPC due to how the ringbus works. the longer the ring gets the worse latency. it is why the meshbus is a thing

[Guest]

Just now, GoldenLag said:

Ryzen 3000 gives you the clockspeed you want. rumoured 5ghz based purely on node spec. when accounting for other things it wither 5ghz or better

Yea that's true, I'm not really sure what to do since I'm a VERY impatient person and don't like waiting that long for stuff. Longest I can wait is like around a month for this kind of stuff I'm not very sure if I can wait until April of next year.

[dtaflorida]

5 minutes ago, Masr said:

Don't really want ryzen because I'm never doing anything with multi threaded applications. I rarely even record, All I do is just play. 

I guess hyper-threading won't help you much either. 9700k all the way. Or wait for the next gen.

[GoldenLag]

5 minutes ago, Masr said:

Yea that's true, I'm not really sure what to do since I'm a VERY impatient person and don't like waiting that long for stuff. Longest I can wait is like around a month for this kind of stuff I'm not very sure if I can wait until April of next year.

i would highly suggest waiting. unless you want to possibly doing another swap in april back to Ryzen 3000 (because you can technically do that aswell

[xg32]

3 hours ago, geo3 said:

Having more real physical cores is much better than hyperthreading. Also there will be small clock and IPC improvements which games will benefit from.

check the benchmarks of 8600k vs 7700k, and i'd be surprised if ipc gains was anything more than 3%. That said, waiting is still the better idea, i was just saying that 8700k isn't too bad if he actually can't wait.