Are AMD Processors Less Stable Than Intels?

[elifinn1]

Are AMD Processors Less Stable Than Inetls. Is this true or false?

[MikeTz]

Completely false!

[Flyguygamer]

Some are. Most are abut the same.

[Axomite]

Not really less stable, just more sensitive to failure

[Glenwing]

Both are very stable.

[JAW96]

My 8350 is stable (brilliant processor by the way) and going strong.

[ttam]

I've sold many thousands of both Intel and AMD system.

AMD came back a lot more often than Intel systems.

Lets just put it that way.

[TERAFLOP]

I've sold many thousands of both Intel and AMD system.

AMD came back a lot more often than Intel systems.

Lets just put it that way.

I'm sorry but this sounds like complete and utter bullocks to me.

The only time I ever got back AMD processors is when the customers bent the CPU pins and warranty doesn't cover user error.

[Fetzie]

I've sold many thousands of both Intel and AMD system.

AMD came back a lot more often than Intel systems.

Lets just put it that way.

 

And the reasons for the returns?

[tp95112]

I'm sorry but this sounds like complete and utter bullocks to me.

The only time I ever got back AMD processors is when the customers bent the CPU pins and warranty doesn't cover user error.

He didnt specify what reason so that could be one of the reason

[Fetzie]

He didnt specify what reason so that could be one of the reason

 

Bent pins is nothing to do with the build quality or engineering of the CPU. If you bend a pin it is your own bloody fault.

[ttam]

I'm sorry but this sounds like complete and utter bullocks to me.

The only time I ever got back AMD processors is when the customers bent the CPU pins and warranty doesn't cover user error.

And how many systems are you dealing with? 10?

[JAW96]

Bent pins is nothing to do with the build quality or engineering of the CPU. If you bend a pin it is your own bloody fault.

bent pins are user errors

[JAW96]

And how many systems are you dealing with? 10?

well I have had multiple AMD PCs and they all run fine to this day.

[TERAFLOP]

And how many systems are you dealing with? 10?

I don't build systems we have people who do that for us, I manage the inventory.

[ttam]

I don't build systems we have people who do that for us, I manage the inventory.

And for how big of a company.

[TERAFLOP]

And for how big of a company.

Why are you asking me this question ? it isn't me who made a highly inflammatory comment and completely failed to back it up with any evidence.

Somehow AMD CPUs are less stable because you say so ? and we're supposed to believe that because what... you own a 4960X ? if anything that shows you know nothing about processors, otherwise you wouldn't have wasted nearly 500 dollars on a 4960X instead of getting a 4930K.

[ttam]

And the reasons for the returns?

This was before I entered the company.

Our system were tested before sent out.

AMD chips had a much higher rate to come back, dead.

To the point where, we just flat out stopped stocking AMD chips.

[Joshyy]

I've sold many thousands of both Intel and AMD system.

AMD came back a lot more often than Intel systems.

Lets just put it that way.

 

Give us some stats.

How many AMD systems did you send out?

How many Intel systems did you send out?

 

For all we know you could have sent out 900 AMD and 100 Intel. 

[TechFan@ic]

Both Intel & AMD use the exact same binning process of two 9s , three 9s, four 9s and so on.
three 9s as in 99.999% stable, four 9s as in 99.9999%. It's a stability measurement for servers which estimates how often a processor might become unstable or fail.

So a a three 9s processor like the 8350 has a 0.001% chance to fail, Opterons & Xeons have both 4 9s and 5 9s certifications.

[Imabigmac]

I think some people need to calm down...

[TopplesS]

It's all relative to the CPU you get, could be a good batch or a bad batch. Wouldn't stress on it too much, cause if it's a bad one you're likely to run into issues early and warranty will sort you out for that (both blue and red).

 

Oh yes, all you phanboiz continue bickering over who is the greatest, because no one cares really.

[Ja Krispie]

This is why these kinds of topics suck. Someone get's butt-hurt over someone elses opinion and an argument ensues.

[TechFan@ic]

Linus used to work at NCIX so he'd know this sort of thing.
I remember him talking about CPU failure rates on the WAN show a long time ago and how it's almost statistically impossible to get a DOA CPU these days from either the blue or red team.

You have to remember that all processors are tested out and binned before they're shipped, so it is impossible that a defective processor would leave the factory gates.
Almost all CPU failures are related to damage during shipping or user error.

[ttam]

Why are you asking me this question ? it isn't me who made a highly inflammatory comment and completely failed to back it up with any evidence.

Somehow AMD CPUs are less stable because you say so ? and we're supposed to believe that because what... you own a 4960X ? if anything that shows you know nothing about processors, otherwise you wouldn't have wasted nearly 500 dollars on a 4960X instead of getting a 4930K.

Not worth my time at this point. When over 20% of the AMD units (on customer warranty time) show signs of failing or just flat out dead, you start to take notice of these things.

 

Wasted money? I make over well 6 figures a year and can spend my money how I want.

To boot, the 4960 is sitting in a box, on a shelf.