Which is better for GAMING, 8600K or 8700?

[Theellyence]

Somebody said that "Core i7-8700 is a better choice for gaming than Core i5-8600K, even you overclock your 8600K to full-core 5.0GHz".

 

Maybe it depend on what games you play? Or it just a lie?

[Jurrunio]

depends on how well does such game work with Hyperthreading. Some work worse with hyperthreading enabled than disabled even at the same clocks.

 

[somerandombloke]

Most games rely on raw horsepower (basically frequency), so an overclocked CPU  with solid cooling SHOULD give you better results, as it heavily depends how smart the game is when it comes to take advantage of the extra threads.

In conclusion, there is no real answer. However, like I said before MOST games take advantage of extra frequency, in almost every game extra frequency is a good choice.

[Firewrath9]

8600k. Few Almost no games will use more than 4t or 4c and the 8600k has 6. The 8600k allows for overclocking and can have really high clocks which means for multithreaded workloads it might perform better and have higher cinebench scores.

 

 

[O9B0666]

9 minutes ago, somerandombloke said:

Most games rely on raw horsepower (basically frequency), so an overclocked CPU  with solid cooling SHOULD give you better results, as it heavily depends how smart the game is when it comes to take advantage of the extra threads.

In conclusion, there is no real answer. However, like I said before MOST games take advantage of extra frequency, in almost every game extra frequency is a good choice.

This is proved with ryzen. Ryzen counterparts have more cores but Intel generally more horsepower and Intel games better. So yeah prolly the over clocked i5. 

[Mr. PC]

47 minutes ago, Theellyence said:

Somebody said that "Core i7-8700 is a better choice for gaming than Core i5-8600K, even you overclock your 8600K to full-core 5.0GHz".

 

Maybe it depend on what games you play? Or it just a lie?

If you are willing to do overclocking the the 8600K will be great... not only will it be a better value but it will also preform equaly or better depending on your overclock since most games don't take advantage of hyperthreading 

[Theellyence]

32 minutes ago, Mr. PC said:

If you are willing to do overclocking the the 8600K will be great... not only will it be a better value but it will also preform equaly or better depending on your overclock since most games don't take advantage of hyperthreading 

Yes, my opinion is just like yours, but my friend refuse to admit that.

 

I decide to buy a 8700 and make a test on my Z370 platform, by the way, there's a lot of people use 8700 on B360 because they think 8700 is not overclockable(

 

But I think RAM frequency is highly related to the minimun fps in game，B360 only support 2666MHz，so I think B360+8700 is not enough for those people who want "high & stable fps".

[Mr. PC]

12 minutes ago, Theellyence said:

Yes, my opinion is just like yours, but my friend refuse to admit that.

 

I decide to buy a 8700 and make a test on my Z370 platform, by the way, there's a lot of people use 8700 on B360 because they think 8700 is not overclockable(

 

But I think RAM frequency is highly related to the minimun fps in game，B360 only support 2666MHz，so I think B360+8700 is not enough for those people who want "high & stable fps".

The 8700 isn't overclockable only processors that end on K or X are overclockable...

Ram speed generally has very little impact on Intel CPUs so 2666MHz should be fine...

[Froody129]

The i7. In general the unlocked i5 will be better now but look at something like the 2500 vs the 2600. The i5 is struggling, while the i7 is still a very relevant CPU. The i7 will also be better in any productivity tasks where the extra threads will help. 

 

The i5 and a good motherboard and cooling is also quite expensive relative to the performance and will use a good bit more power 

 

 

[orbitalbuzzsaw]

The 8600K hands down, 5GhZ is better than 4.x

[Mr. PC]

13 minutes ago, Froody129 said:

The i7. In general the unlocked i5 will be better now but look at something like the 2500 vs the 2600. The i5 is struggling, while the i7 is still a very relevant CPU. The i7 will also be better in any productivity tasks where the extra threads will help. 

 

The i5 and a good motherboard and cooling is also quite expensive relative to the performance and will use a good bit more power 

 

 

1. The decrement between i5 and i7 used to be much bigger than it is now... The locked i7 for example won't be able to compete with newer CPUs as clock speed increases... currently most tasks don't utilize more than 2 cores (except productivity) so on the mainstream market the clock speed wars are gonna start again and then an overclockable CPU will last way longer.

2. This Thread is about what's better for gaming

4 hours ago, Theellyence said:

Somebody said that "Core i7-8700 is a better choice for gaming than Core i5-8600K, even you overclock your 8600K to full-core 5.0GHz

3. The i7 and i5 use the same socket so the motherboards cost the same... sure you would have to get an overclocking capable board but most good boards have oc support anyways

4. The i5 uses 30W more power... I wouldn't call that quite a bit more... especially considering that that measurement is not a stock speeds...

 

[Theellyence]

12 hours ago, Mr. PC said:

1. The decrement between i5 and i7 used to be much bigger than it is now... The locked i7 for example won't be able to compete with newer CPUs as clock speed increases... currently most tasks don't utilize more than 2 cores (except productivity) so on the mainstream market the clock speed wars are gonna start again and then an overclockable CPU will last way longer.

2. This Thread is about what's better for gaming

3. The i7 and i5 use the same socket so the motherboards cost the same... sure you would have to get an overclocking capable board but most good boards have oc support anyways

4. The i5 uses 30W more power... I wouldn't call that quite a bit more... especially considering that that measurement is not a stock speeds...

 

I've bought a 8700 and GALAX HOF2 8G 3600mhz c17 *2 bdie RAM for this test, both CPUs will test on GB Z370 AORUS GAMING 5 motherboard.

 

About power consume, I have some statistics. You can see from AIDA64 that a full-core 5.0GHz 8600K will actually not consume so much power. And for cooling, Without HT, an 5.0GHz 8600K is not so hot like a 5.0 GHz's 8700K.

 

The maximum temperture in 20min FPU stress test, as you see is 73°. My cooling equipment is a Scythe STB120, a 99 Chinese Yuan Air-cooling（about 15.54 USD）...

 

I just want to say, An overclocked 8600K is not so hot at all, even at 4.8 or 5.0GHz.