Delidding worth it?

[Firewrath9]

Should i delid my i5 8600k, runs at 80c, how much time does it take and how high can i OC with it post delid? 5.2 ghz all core? 5,5?

[Skiiwee29]

You may get lucky and get up to 5.1 or 5.2 on all cores with a delid. Delidding takes about 30-60 minutes depending on how you are doing it and possibly longer. 80c is fine for the CPU under full load, but wouldnt push it any further than what it is now. 

[nick name]

What is your current cooling solution? Is it possible to find a better cooling solution before de-lidding? The de-lidding of course would benefit from a better cooler also.

[Amazonsucks]

6 hours ago, Firewrath9 said:

Should i delid my i5 8600k, runs at 80c, how much time does it take and how high can i OC with it post delid? 5.2 ghz all core? 5,5?

No you should not. Its not worth it.

 

You need to figure out why your CPU is running so hot, and my guess is that its not the TIM.

[DarkSmith2]

4 hours ago, Firewrath9 said:

Should i delid my i5 8600k, runs at 80c, how much time does it take and how high can i OC with it post delid? 5.2 ghz all core? 5,5?

It did take like 20-25minutes when i delidded my 8700k, the whole delidding process was only about 1minute, since ive used a cheap tool. The cleaning was time consuming, getting rid of all that silicon glue Intel used to seal it. The potential OC gain is about 1 Multiplier at max delidded vs non delidded at the same voltage, but you really would like to aim for ~60°C temps to reach additional stability at all. 

 

So you would just be able to crank your vcore a little higher because of more thermal headroom, you havnt said how much vcore you are already pumping into it at 4.8GHz, that makes it impossible to estimate how much more your chip could be capable of.

[Firewrath9]

4 hours ago, Amazonsucks said:

No you should not. Its not worth it.

 

You need to figure out why your CPU is running so hot, and my guess is that its not the TIM.

80c during stress tests isnt bad, considering its OCed.

[Firewrath9]

4 hours ago, DarkSmith2 said:

It did take like 20-25minutes when i delidded my 8700k, the whole delidding process was only about 1minute, since ive used a cheap tool. The cleaning was time consuming, getting rid of all that silicon glue Intel used to seal it. The potential OC gain is about 1 Multiplier at max delidded vs non delidded at the same voltage, but you really would like to aim for ~60°C temps to reach additional stability at all. 

 

So you would just be able to crank your vcore a little higher because of more thermal headroom, you havnt said how much vcore you are already pumping into it at 4.8GHz, that makes it impossible to estimate how much more your chip could be capable of.

 I thinks its either 1.25v or 1.3

[Sernefarian]

If you kill your processor it is never worth it. Though if you are going to delid I wholeheartedly suggest trying liquid metal. There are tons of videos on how to do that, and the additional cooling gains can be ridiculous. Have seen decreases on the same cooler posted in the area of around 20 degrees C.

[DarkSmith2]

53 minutes ago, Firewrath9 said:

 I thinks its either 1.25v or 1.3

so without upgrading your cooling solution delidded your max OC goes into a max range of 5GHz for a 24/7 OC. This is nothing bad, just average.
Coffeelake scaling is 0.04-0.06v per 100MHz. i wouldnt recommend anything higher than 1.35v for a 24/7 OC under air/aio. 

[AngryBeaver]

Here is the truth.

 

For the majority of people delidding isn't for them. Chances are if you are asking if you should or not, then it isn't for you.

 

Delidding helps lower cpu temps by increasing the efficiency of which heat can transfer from the die to the IHS then from the IHS to your cooling solution. For most people the current solution works fine and while it might hit 70 and 80C temps, these are well within the acceptable range of these chips.

 

Now when you want to push for high overclocks and need the thermal headroom as well as the reduced thermal leakage generated by heat... then delidding might be worth it. Now if you are running big air or an AIO this will get you some decent gains, but it really shines when done with custom water.

 

The next thing to consider is this. Why are you overclocking? Is it just for some benchmark e-peen flexing fun or do you have a real reason to need those high clocks? With the current gen and even next gen of GPU's a 4th gen or higher intel should not be a bottleneck and the real world gains you see from going from say 4.5ghz to 5.2ghz are not noticeable outside of anything but benchmarks. So you are essentially using more power, producing more heat, and running more voltage through your chip for no meaningful gains. So when you look at it from THAT perspective then the need for you to push those clocks and even need to delid are just silly.

 

So while I have delidded all my chips since intel moved back to TIM over Solder... I am a very rare scenario and hell I don't even technically need to anymore. My scenario was somewhat different because I have been known to run servers for games that are very dependant on ST performance and only run on 1 or 2 cores so having high clocks on those cores was largely beneficial to the servers I was hosting... however when it comes to gaming that load just isn't the same and most current cpu's aren't going to bottleneck a gpu in any meaningful way at 1080P or higher.

[Velcade]

2 minutes ago, AngryBeaver said:

benchmark e-peen flexing fun

Is there any other reason?