Ryzen 5 2400g overpriced compared to the RX 580's and many other AMD GPUs release prices.

[1stGuyGamez]

Look, I know the Ryzen 5 2400g has a superior upgrade path.

The RX 580's launch price was $229, and has 6.2 teraflops of performance.

The Ryzen 5 2400g costs $149, and with 1 teraflop.

If you do the math, 149/229 is 0.65, which means that the Ryzen 5 2400g is 65% of the RX 580's price.

And for performance, if the Ryzen 5 2400g were better, the percentage will be higher for the Ryzen 5 APU.

But no, it's 1/6th of the RX 580's performance.

You know, if you use a Pentium G4560 with an RX 580, the price would be $299, so the Ryzen 5 2400g's price would be 45% of the RX 580 with a g4560 and still not be better for the price/performance ratio.

I posted this because GPU stocks will fall down soon, and get back to their original prices again.

Any way to prove that the Ryzen 5 2400g is still a good option for entry level builds, that only performs as good as a GT 1030 (disregarding the upgrade path point)?

 

[Supportsneedlove]

4 minutes ago, 1stGuyGamez said:

Look, I know the Ryzen 5 2400g has a superior upgrade path.

The RX 580's launch price was $229, and has 6.2 teraflops of performance.

The Ryzen 5 2400g costs $149, and with 1 teraflop.

If you do the math, 149/229 is 0.65, which means that the Ryzen 5 2400g is 65% of the RX 580's price.

And for performance, if the Ryzen 5 2400g were better, the percentage will be higher for the Ryzen 5 APU.

But no, it's 1/6th of the RX 580's performance.

You know, if you use a Pentium G4560 with an RX 580, the price would be $299, so the Ryzen 5 2400g's price would be 45% of the RX 580 with a g4560 and still not be better for the price/performance ratio.

I posted this because GPU stocks will fall down soon, and get back to their original prices again.

Any way to prove that the Ryzen 5 2400g is still a good option for entry level builds, that only performs as good as a GT 1030 (disregarding the upgrade path point)?

 

Other than it being an APU meaning you get the CPU and GPU in one easily upgradeable package?

[Blebekblebek]

So the comparison is 2 cores cpu and non existent price range gpu?

Seems valid.... NOT.

 

GPU prices isn't going down, and the new GPU line up isn't going to be cheap either.

RAM fix price isn't even addressed yet.

[1stGuyGamez]

Just now, Blebekblebek said:

So the comparison is 2 cores cpu and non existent price range gpu?

Seems valid.... NOT.

 

GPU prices isn't going down, and the new GPU line up isn't going to be cheap either.

RAM fix price isn't even addressed yet.

They have been reportedly going down $5 or $10, so this might be a sign. Stocks are landing, not falling.

[Jurrunio]

Because RX 580 didnt come with a quad core SMT-enabled CPU? That CPU smashes the G4560 in every way.

 

Also the R5 2400G came at the time when RX 580s are like $500 each.

 

No one should consider the 2400g anyway when the a bit slower 2200g cost $99

[AskTJ]

Pretty bad comparison. Were talking about a GPU on one side, and a CPU with a decent GPU on the other side. Who cares about flops of performance? The package where the APU is in is much smaller than an RX580, and is more power efficient.

[1stGuyGamez]

3 minutes ago, Supportsneedlove said:

Other than it being an APU meaning you get the CPU and GPU in one easily upgradeable package?

That's not my point. I gave an RX 580 as an example.

[Guest]

7 minutes ago, 1stGuyGamez said:

Look, I know the Ryzen 5 2400g has a superior upgrade path.

The RX 580's launch price was $229, and has 6.2 teraflops of performance.

The Ryzen 5 2400g costs $149, and with 1 teraflop.

If you do the math, 149/229 is 0.65, which means that the Ryzen 5 2400g is 65% of the RX 580's price.

And for performance, if the Ryzen 5 2400g were better, the percentage will be higher for the Ryzen 5 APU.

But no, it's 1/6th of the RX 580's performance.

You know, if you use a Pentium G4560 with an RX 580, the price would be $299, so the Ryzen 5 2400g's price would be 45% of the RX 580 with a g4560 and still not be better for the price/performance ratio.

I posted this because GPU stocks will fall down soon, and get back to their original prices again.

Any way to prove that the Ryzen 5 2400g is still a good option for entry level builds, that only performs as good as a GT 1030 (disregarding the upgrade path point)?

 

If you think about it, the r5 2400g is like a i7 6700k and a gt 1030 in one package, but much cheaper.

 

The pentium you named has 2 cores, while 2400g has 4c and 8threads.

 

Also while Nvidia gpu prices are falling, don't expect the same for rx 580s, because they just are too good for mining.

[1stGuyGamez]

1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

Because RX 580 didnt come with a quad core SMT-enabled CPU? That CPU smashes the G4560 in every way.

 

Also the R5 2400G came at the time when RX 580s are like $500 each.

 

No one should consider the 2400g anyway when the a bit slower 2200g cost $99

I know, but the Pentium g4560 paired with an RX 580 smashes the Ryzen 5 2400g in every way, which is what I said.

[1stGuyGamez]

2 minutes ago, Some Random Member said:

If you think about it, the r5 2400g is like a i7 6700k and a gt 1030 in one package, but much cheaper.

 

The pentium you named has 2 cores, while 2400g has 4c and 8threads.

 

Also while Nvidia gpu prices are falling, don't expect the same for rx 580s, because they just are too good for mining.

How tf do you remove best answer lol

Edit: Issue fixed. nvm

Edited June 12, 2018 by 1stGuyGamez

[Jurrunio]

1 minute ago, Some Random Member said:

r5 2400g is like a i7 6700k and a gt 1030 in one package, but much cheaper.

More like a 6700 non-K, since k chips overclock a lot further.

 

1 minute ago, 1stGuyGamez said:

I know, but the Pentium g4560 paired with an RX 580 smashes the Ryzen 5 2400g in every way, which is what I said.

It'd better smash a 2400g in every way, you spend twice the money for it.

[1stGuyGamez]

2 minutes ago, Some Random Member said:

If you think about it, the r5 2400g is like a i7 6700k and a gt 1030 in one package, but much cheaper.

 

The pentium you named has 2 cores, while 2400g has 4c and 8threads.

 

Also while Nvidia gpu prices are falling, don't expect the same for rx 580s, because they just are too good for mining.

My point is, for Price/Performance, an RX 580 with a Pentium g4560 would be better than a Ryzen 5 2400g for gaming.

[1stGuyGamez]

2 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

More like a 6700 non-K, since k chips overclock a lot further.

 

It'd better smash a 2400g in every way, you spend twice the money for it.

Did you even read my post?

 

[Morgan MLGman]

Just now, 1stGuyGamez said:

That's not my point. I gave an RX 580 as an example.

You cannot compare a racecar to a minivan. Sure, we all know that the racecar is faster but it costs more and does only a very limited amount of things, when on the other hand you have a minivan which can go anywhere, even when the road is bad, take more than 5-6 people inside and pack a lot of luggage while costing less.

Are there reasons to buy each of them? Sure, but they're different reasons.

The same applies in this case:

2 minutes ago, 1stGuyGamez said:

I know, but the Pentium g4560 paired with an RX 580 smashes the Ryzen 5 2400g in every way, which is what I said.

Yeah but you're still omitting the price argument. You just can't compare a 350$ purchase to a 150$ one...

It's more like an i7-6700 + GT 1030 comparison which would look terribly in terms of value when compared to the APU.

[Jurrunio]

2 minutes ago, 1stGuyGamez said:

Did you even read my post?

 

You said a $350-400 CPU+GPU outperforms a $150 APU. You dont say?

[Guest]

19 minutes ago, 1stGuyGamez said:

 

Any way to prove that the Ryzen 5 2400g is still a good option for entry level builds, that only performs as good as a GT 1030 (disregarding the upgrade path point)?

 

What if you want to do productivity? overclocked 8thread APU outperforms your locked 2core pentium by a huge margin in video rendering, general computer usage etc. The 2400g is a much more balanced choice.

[JoostinOnline]

6 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

You said a $350-400 CPU+GPU outperforms a $150 APU. You dont say?

Fake news

[Herman Mcpootis]

18 minutes ago, 1stGuyGamez said:

Look, I know the Ryzen 5 2400g has a superior upgrade path.

The RX 580's launch price was $229, and has 6.2 teraflops of performance.

The Ryzen 5 2400g costs $149, and with 1 teraflop.

If you do the math, 149/229 is 0.65, which means that the Ryzen 5 2400g is 65% of the RX 580's price.

And for performance, if the Ryzen 5 2400g were better, the percentage will be higher for the Ryzen 5 APU.

But no, it's 1/6th of the RX 580's performance.

You know, if you use a Pentium G4560 with an RX 580, the price would be $299, so the Ryzen 5 2400g's price would be 45% of the RX 580 with a g4560 and still not be better for the price/performance ratio.

I posted this because GPU stocks will fall down soon, and get back to their original prices again.

Any way to prove that the Ryzen 5 2400g is still a good option for entry level builds, that only performs as good as a GT 1030 (disregarding the upgrade path point)?

 

thing is, you're comparing between 2 completely different products here. one is a mid-range graphics card and the other is a CPU with an iGPU that can actually game worth a damn. 

[JoostinOnline]

13 minutes ago, 1stGuyGamez said:

I know, but the Pentium g4560 paired with an RX 580 smashes the Ryzen 5 2400g in every way,

Actually it doesn't. You think a dual core can compete with a quad core in CPU intensive tasks?

 

Only an idiot would buy a Pentium now anyway. Dual core is dead.

[Guest]

1 minute ago, JoostinOnline said:

Actually it doesn't. You think a dual core can compete with a quad core in CPU intensive tasks?

 

Only an idiot would buy a Pentium now anyway. Dual core is dead.

Even some games wont even start with a dual core, so which has better gaming performance in those games? the 2400g or the rx580 with a dual core?

[Jurrunio]

7 minutes ago, Some Random Member said:

Even some games wont even start with a dual core, so which has better gaming performance in those games? the 2400g or the rx580 with a dual core?

these games will work when there's 4 threads, so the G4560 will run them. Performance wont be as good as having 4 real cores of course.

[Ordinarily_Greater]

really? you are comparing what is essentially a Ryzen 5 1400 to a GPU! it's like comparing a swiss knife to a kitchen knife

if you really want to look where the value of this APU really shines, compare it to a CPU and GPU combo!

[1stGuyGamez]

1 hour ago, JoostinOnline said:

Actually it doesn't. You think a dual core can compete with a quad core in CPU intensive tasks?

 

Only an idiot would buy a Pentium now anyway. Dual core is dead.

My point was on gaming.

A Pentium g4560 clocks at 3.5 Gigahertz, and is a nice budget gaming CPU.

eoc

[1stGuyGamez]

1 hour ago, Ordinarily_Greater said:

really? you are comparing what is essentially a Ryzen 5 1400 to a GPU! it's like comparing a swiss knife to a kitchen knife

if you really want to look where the value of this APU really shines, compare it to a CPU and GPU combo!

That's what I exactly did. I compared the price/performance.

[1stGuyGamez]

2 hours ago, Herman Mcpootis said:

thing is, you're comparing between 2 completely different products here. one is a mid-range graphics card and the other is a CPU with an iGPU that can actually game worth a damn. 

I can't be bothered to say this again. I'M TALKING ABOUT PRICE/PERFORMANCE HERE, READ THE POST.