Premire Pro Issues

[Drew Learns Tech]

So I've been learning to use Premiere recently and recently I've been having issues on playback even at 1/4 quality when I really shouldn't. I'm using 1080p video and my Specs are i5 7600K @ ~4.3 Gz 16G 3000Mz Ram GTX 1060 6GB. Why is this happening and how can I fix it thanks!

[DrMacintosh]

What resolution video are you playing back at? What version of Premiere? Are you using hardware acceleration? 

 

Also keep in mind that Premiere is just a garbage program in general in terms of using the hardware it has available. 

[GDRRiley]

1st step stop using premiere and move to DaVinci reslove

2 if you still need premiere pro check what is being used up CPU, GPU, ram

[LaFemmeEnVert]

28 minutes ago, Drew Learns Tech said:

So I've been learning to use Premiere recently and recently I've been having issues on playback even at 1/4 quality when I really shouldn't. I'm using 1080p video and my Specs are i5 7600K @ ~4.3 Gz 16G 3000Mz Ram GTX 1060 6GB. Why is this happening and how can I fix it thanks!

tell me about the video file what is the codec it use?  if the video is using highly compressed interframe codecs NLE like premiere must decode the frames before it plays back and this can be the reason. another reason can be the effects you apply in the timeline sequence like maybe you are doing noise reduction?

you can improve the performance by putting the video on a faster separate drive like ssd and preview rendering timeline sequences

[Enderman]

Are you using an SSD?

[Drew Learns Tech]

42 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

What resolution video are you playing back at? What version of Premiere? Are you using hardware acceleration? 

 

Also keep in mind that Premiere is just a garbage program in general in terms of using the hardware it has available. 

Premiere Pro 2018, 1/4 Resolution,  Pretty sure I'm using GPU hardware acceleration.

[Drew Learns Tech]

37 minutes ago, GDRRiley said:

1st step stop using premiere and move to DaVinci reslove

2 if you still need premiere pro check what is being used up CPU, GPU, ram

I Looked it really isn't allocating more resources than it has in the past having nearly everything other than my GPU at 80% or more but again that is how it's always been and haven't had issues before. 

[Drew Learns Tech]

9 minutes ago, Enderman said:

Are you using an SSD?

Yes

[Drew Learns Tech]

17 minutes ago, LaFemmeEnVert said:

tell me about the video file what is the codec it use?  if the video is using highly compressed interframe codecs NLE like premiere must decode the frames before it plays back and this can be the reason. another reason can be the effects you apply in the timeline sequence like maybe you are doing noise reduction?

you can improve the performance by putting the video on a faster separate drive like ssd and preview rendering timeline sequences

VLC and there is no audio. I have it on my ssd at the moment as well.

[Drew Learns Tech]

Also, I've noticed now that the first minute is played entirely out of order skipping around frames at random and has random speeds up and slowdowns for the rest of the 21 minutes. Don't know if this a sign for something but I thought it could be helpful information.

[DrMacintosh]

12 minutes ago, Drew Learns Tech said:

1/4 Resolution

What is the resolution of the video clips that you are working with, not your playback resolution. 

[Drew Learns Tech]

1 minute ago, DrMacintosh said:

What is the resolution of the video clips that you are working with, not your playback resolution. 

Oh sorry, 1920x1080

[LaFemmeEnVert]

3 hours ago, Drew Learns Tech said:

VLC and there is no audio. I have it on my ssd at the moment as well.

VLC is a video player not a codec.  A codec is something like h264 h265 prores DNXHD cineform...

[Drew Learns Tech]

6 hours ago, LaFemmeEnVert said:

VLC is a video player not a codec.  A codec is something like h264 h265 prores DNXHD cineform...

sorry h264 then

[LaFemmeEnVert]

6 hours ago, Drew Learns Tech said:

sorry h264 then

i get the feeling you don't know much about video editing. it is like having to draw the informatioin from you one tiny bit at a time

what effects are applied to the video in the sequence? give us every detail you can imagine

[Drew Learns Tech]

3 hours ago, LaFemmeEnVert said:

i get the feeling you don't know much about video editing. it is like having to draw the informatioin from you one tiny bit at a time

what effects are applied to the video in the sequence? give us every detail you can imagine

Thank you for your patience. As I said I am new to using Adobe I am learning via crappy YouTube tutorials. In the past, I just used the crappy standard windows video editor that came with windows 7. I literally have nothing else on the file. It is a fresh project with standard settings and I've dragged and dropped my raw video into it so I can clip some of the crap out before I go and put anything else on it.

[LaFemmeEnVert]

7 hours ago, Drew Learns Tech said:

Thank you for your patience. As I said I am new to using Adobe I am learning via crappy YouTube tutorials. In the past, I just used the crappy standard windows video editor that came with windows 7. I literally have nothing else on the file. It is a fresh project with standard settings and I've dragged and dropped my raw video into it so I can clip some of the crap out before I go and put anything else on it.

you need to know some things about premiere and your editing machine and the video files for editing.

 

premiere is not very optimized for multi core cpu, 8-12 cores is where premiere has most efficient.  more than that cores you do not get significant performance gain. but premiere does get good performance with cpu clock speed. a 4ghz cpu will do much better work than 2ghz cpu.  your cpu is not the best but it is also not the worst for premiere. do an overclock if you can to maximize the clock speed.

 

for your computer, 16gb memory is ok but for video editing you should try to have minimum 32gb.  very useful.  for the storage, you can optimize the storage arrangement by having 1 drive dedicated for Windows or Linux or OSX whatever you use and for applications. have 2nd or 3rd drives for storing your video files that are for editing.  best if those drives are fast ssd drives.

 

gpu does not play a huge role for premiere but having a good gpu is helpful.  premiere uses gpu when rendering effects that use gpu acceleration or for a few other situations, for all others it uses cpu more.  this is why when you check some computer monitoring software you will see that gpu usage is low.  look on the internet for explanations on how premiere uses gpu.

 

there are basic 3 types of video codecs and several types of containers.  h264 is a codec and mp4 is a container.

the 1st type of video codec, from largest file size to smallest, is RAW video. there are a few different types of raw formats like cinema dng, RED camera raw, and now ProRes raw.  raw files are usually the largest in size for each minute of video recorded because they contain the maximum ammount of information captured by the sensor.  but raw is not 100% lossless.  some cameras offer a slightly compressed raw format to save storage space on memory cards.  raw is also the fastest for NLE like premiere to process because it does not need to be decoded as other codecs.

 

the 2nd type is intraframe codecs. intraframe codecs are lossy codecs but can still have large file sizes for each minute of recorded video.  intraframe codecs contain data for each individual frame of video recorded. it is more compressed than raw but less compressed than interframe and requires less processing to decode.

 

the 3rd type is interframe codecs, sometimes you will see people say the codec uses Long GOP or Group of Pictures to compress the file.  they are talkking about a interframe codec.  interframe codecs uses less storage space because the compression takes 1 key frame, looks at the video frames that exist before it and after it and checks what are the differences.  the compression only saves the differences between each keyframe.  this kind of codec requires more processing to be done by Premiere because premiere must uncompress the video frames or decode before it can play back.

 

some codecs have both interframe and intraframe versions.  this is depend on the amount of compression levels and types the codec applies.

 

this is not a thorough explanation. i wrote this only to give you basic idea on why you are getting slow performance.

 

 

[Drew Learns Tech]

15 hours ago, LaFemmeEnVert said:

you need to know some things about premiere and your editing machine and the video files for editing.

 

premiere is not very optimized for multi core cpu, 8-12 cores is where premiere has most efficient.  more than that cores you do not get significant performance gain. but premiere does get good performance with cpu clock speed. a 4ghz cpu will do much better work than 2ghz cpu.  your cpu is not the best but it is also not the worst for premiere. do an overclock if you can to maximize the clock speed.

 

for your computer, 16gb memory is ok but for video editing you should try to have minimum 32gb.  very useful.  for the storage, you can optimize the storage arrangement by having 1 drive dedicated for Windows or Linux or OSX whatever you use and for applications. have 2nd or 3rd drives for storing your video files that are for editing.  best if those drives are fast ssd drives.

 

gpu does not play a huge role for premiere but having a good gpu is helpful.  premiere uses gpu when rendering effects that use gpu acceleration or for a few other situations, for all others it uses cpu more.  this is why when you check some computer monitoring software you will see that gpu usage is low.  look on the internet for explanations on how premiere uses gpu.

 

there are basic 3 types of video codecs and several types of containers.  h264 is a codec and mp4 is a container.

the 1st type of video codec, from largest file size to smallest, is RAW video. there are a few different types of raw formats like cinema dng, RED camera raw, and now ProRes raw.  raw files are usually the largest in size for each minute of video recorded because they contain the maximum ammount of information captured by the sensor.  but raw is not 100% lossless.  some cameras offer a slightly compressed raw format to save storage space on memory cards.  raw is also the fastest for NLE like premiere to process because it does not need to be decoded as other codecs.

 

the 2nd type is intraframe codecs. intraframe codecs are lossy codecs but can still have large file sizes for each minute of recorded video.  intraframe codecs contain data for each individual frame of video recorded. it is more compressed than raw but less compressed than interframe and requires less processing to decode.

 

the 3rd type is interframe codecs, sometimes you will see people say the codec uses Long GOP or Group of Pictures to compress the file.  they are talkking about a interframe codec.  interframe codecs uses less storage space because the compression takes 1 key frame, looks at the video frames that exist before it and after it and checks what are the differences.  the compression only saves the differences between each keyframe.  this kind of codec requires more processing to be done by Premiere because premiere must uncompress the video frames or decode before it can play back.

 

some codecs have both interframe and intraframe versions.  this is depend on the amount of compression levels and types the codec applies.

 

this is not a thorough explanation. i wrote this only to give you basic idea on why you are getting slow performance.

 

 

Okay, that is a lot of information. From what I can gather though I still shouldn't be having this issue my raw is nothing major it is a screen capture and the audio plays fine it's just the video that is not behaving like it is supposed to. You gave me a lot of good information but I still can't figure out why only now I can't even start to edit my footage. Edit: Also I've put it through Adobe Encoder now and I'm having the same issue so I think that it is an issue with the source videos. I'll figure out my settings later .thanks for the help!

 

Update: I've done some more tests and yes it definitely is my footage that is messed up not Adobe

[LaFemmeEnVert]

21 hours ago, Drew Learns Tech said:

Okay, that is a lot of information. From what I can gather though I still shouldn't be having this issue my raw is nothing major it is a screen capture and the audio plays fine it's just the video that is not behaving like it is supposed to. You gave me a lot of good information but I still can't figure out why only now I can't even start to edit my footage. Edit: Also I've put it through Adobe Encoder now and I'm having the same issue so I think that it is an issue with the source videos. I'll figure out my settings later .thanks for the help!

 

Update: I've done some more tests and yes it definitely is my footage that is messed up not Adobe

if you wnat video files for practicing search online for free video files. don't use video you screen recorded