1070 ti underperforming?

[NeverEatenCake]

So I just upgraded from a 960 to a 1070ti fe. I downloaded the drivers for the card etc. I maxed out the settings (1920x1080) and jumped into a game of battlefield 1 and I only got around 35-50fps and it stutters and freezes alot.

What should I do? I'm a bit suspicous of a bottlenecked cpu

 

i5-4460 @ 3,200mhz

1tb HDD

8gb RAM

[Froody129]

BF1 is infamous for hitting your CPU really hard and an i5 is not enough for a high end GPU at 1080p. I would either upgrade to the next gen CPUs or just bump up resolution scale so the GPU is causing less work for the CPU

[NelizMastr]

Yeah, the 4460 is way too weak for a 1070ti, even for a 1060. You need to upgrade to an i7/Xeon E3 1230+ v3 if you want to stay on that platform. I had the same CPU and upgraded to the E3-1241v3 and all the stutters went away. 

[AugOwnz]

When I was using a 4670k with a 1080 I got sometimes 40% gpu usage with 100% cpu usage (mind you this was at 4k, which is more gpu than cpu reliant). I5's are not enough for bf1 when you are pushing graphics etc. up.

[NeverEatenCake]

1 hour ago, NelizMastr said:

Yeah, the 4460 is way too weak for a 1070ti, even for a 1060. You need to upgrade to an i7/Xeon E3 1230+ v3 if you want to stay on that platform. I had the same CPU and upgraded to the E3-1241v3 and all the stutters went away. 

Ok, thanks for your help, I will upgrade it asap

[NeverEatenCake]

1 hour ago, Froody129 said:

BF1 is infamous for hitting your CPU really hard and an i5 is not enough for a high end GPU at 1080p. I would either upgrade to the next gen CPUs or just bump up resolution scale so the GPU is causing less work for the CPU

I upped the res. scale and it added maybe a 10 fps difference, but it's still not 60fps consitently. I think my best option is to upgrade my cpu

[Crunchy Dragon]

1 minute ago, NeverEatenCake said:

I upped the res. scale and it added maybe a 10 fps difference, but it's still not 60fps consitently. I think my best option is to upgrade my cpu

I would look for an i7-4770K or 4790K.

[Princess Luna]

Did you DDU in safe mode? you went from Maxwell to Pascal so that's always advisable before installing the latest drivers.

[i_build_nanosuits]

12 minutes ago, Crunchy Dragon said:

I would look for an i7-4770K or 4790K.

or a xeon E3-1231V3 which is the same CPU without IGPu but it was even cheaper so intel sold a shit load of them...i7-4770/4771/4790 are also great options.

So basically you have 6 CPU's that could do great to upgrade from the 4460

2 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

Did you DDU in safe mode? you went from Maxwell to Pascal so that's always advisable before installing the latest drivers.

While i don't disagree, it's clear to me that the CPU is the issue...

[Dabombinable]

As people are saying, its the i5 4460 being too weak. I myself had some problems with my old i5 4440 bottlenecking my GTX 970 in some games (eg Fallout 4), even when overclocked to 3.5GHz.

[BarackOBatman]

I have found that a 3rd gen i5 and gtx 1060 is sufficient for 1080p 60fps in BF1 at max/high. I'd redo drivers just incase before you shell out money. Are you sure that the CPU is pegged at 100% usage 24/7? You could also maybe be limited by system ram when it comes to the stuttering. I think this game will use like 10GB at 1080 high?

[NeverEatenCake]

1 hour ago, BarackOBatman said:

I have found that a 3rd gen i5 and gtx 1060 is sufficient for 1080p 60fps in BF1 at max/high. I'd redo drivers just incase before you shell out money. Are you sure that the CPU is pegged at 100% usage 24/7? You could also maybe be limited by system ram when it comes to the stuttering. I think this game will use like 10GB at 1080 high?

Playing around with drivers isn't doing anything for me, but I only have 8gb of ram so that might need to be upgraded as well

[BarackOBatman]

1 hour ago, NeverEatenCake said:

Playing around with drivers isn't doing anything for me, but I only have 8gb of ram so that might need to be upgraded as well

https://forums.battlefield.com/en-us/discussion/37033/is-8gb-of-ram-fine-with-battlefield-1

 

There are mixed opinions on this TBH.

 

I'd mostly point toward a cpu in the end of the day due to 100% usage.

[NeverEatenCake]

3 hours ago, Princess Cadence said:

Did you DDU in safe mode? you went from Maxwell to Pascal so that's always advisable before installing the latest drivers.

no i didn't, but i cant seem to find an option for it anywhere

[Princess Luna]

1 minute ago, NeverEatenCake said:

no i didn't, but i cant seem to find an option for it anywhere

DDU is a program you download, it serves to completely wipe out all the left overs of older drivers that could be messing up with your the full performance of your GPU, it's always nice to use this application (you have to be in safe-mode) just to be sure at least the GPU is operating as it should.

 

While your CPU and 'lack' of memory are issues for such a high end GPU you should at least have a superior experience from what you're having right now.

[NeverEatenCake]

1 hour ago, Princess Cadence said:

DDU is a program you download, it serves to completely wipe out all the left overs of older drivers that could be messing up with your the full performance of your GPU, it's always nice to use this application (you have to be in safe-mode) just to be sure at least the GPU is operating as it should.

 

While your CPU and 'lack' of memory are issues for such a high end GPU you should at least have a superior experience from what you're having right now.

I have unistalled drivers with ddu. what I meant was that I didn't find an option to launch it in safe mode

[Princess Luna]

5 minutes ago, NeverEatenCake said:

I have unistalled drivers with ddu. what I meant was that I didn't find an option to launch it in safe mode

You mean like this?

https://www.digitalcitizen.life/4-ways-boot-safe-mode-windows-10

[NeverEatenCake]

2 hours ago, Princess Cadence said:

You mean like this?

https://www.digitalcitizen.life/4-ways-boot-safe-mode-windows-10

ok, I did did it in safe mode and installed the drivers, didn't make a difference

[Princess Luna]

Just now, NeverEatenCake said:

ok, I did did it in safe mode and installed the drivers, didn't make a difference

If you really care about troubleshooting you should get something like MSi Afterburner that have a lot of readings at once and play the game then see how's the usages with every thing to really pin point your issues.

[overturnedv1]

2 hours ago, NeverEatenCake said:

no i didn't, but i cant seem to find an option for it anywhere

You can boot into safe mode manually by going to advanced restart and choosing the option when your pc reboots. And i bet it isnt it, btw. Also it isnt your ram

[thedude4bides]

Could be some nvidea settings tweaks that could help out.  Do you have physics set to "1070 ti"?  I forget off the top of my head but there is a few other settings under 3D that may help offload some of the work the cpu is doing.  Might even be some windows tweaks to minimize background tasks when you are playing games.  I spent a day optimizing all this stuff in my new build and can't remember everything I did but there are things to do.

[NeverEatenCake]

23 hours ago, thedude4bides said:

Could be some nvidea settings tweaks that could help out.  Do you have physics set to "1070 ti"?  I forget off the top of my head but there is a few other settings under 3D that may help offload some of the work the cpu is doing.  Might even be some windows tweaks to minimize background tasks when you are playing games.  I spent a day optimizing all this stuff in my new build and can't remember everything I did but there are things to do.

I've played around with alot of the settings in the nvidia control panel, no drastic improvements