Ryzen 7 OC'ing and Memory timings?

[zaesho]

 I got my 1700 to 3.9ghz on 1.36875 volts, and my trident z rgb to 2866 @ 1.25, do you think i can bring down the voltage of either the cpu or memory clocks. also what are good timings for that ram?

[GoldenLag]

10 minutes ago, Virtual_Gian said:

 I got my 1700 to 3.9ghz on 1.36875 volts, and my trident z rgb to 2866 @ 1.25, do you think i can bring down the voltage of either the cpu or memory clocks. also what are good timings for that ram?

on the CPU i think youve been very lucky in terms of silicon lottery. you should be able to do 4,0 maybe 4,1 with 1.4 voltage (still considered safe). I doubt you can bring the cpu voltage down much further. 

 

i believe Ryzen like tigher timings, but i havent dwelled into ram OC'ing yet

[NelizMastr]

That's pretty low voltage on the RAM. My RAM defaults to 1.35V and that's sufficient for stable operation @ DDR4-3000.

[Jurrunio]

Are you using the default XMP profile of the RAM?

[zaesho]

1 hour ago, Jurrunio said:

Are you using the default XMP profile of the RAM?

Each time ive tried enabling xmp in the bios the system doesnt boot up... ive had better luck oc'ing on ryzen master than on the bios level, in bios 3.8 at 1.35 volts wont boot

[zaesho]

1 hour ago, GoldenLag said:

on the CPU i think youve been very lucky in terms of silicon lottery. you should be able to do 4,0 maybe 4,1 with 1.4 voltage (still considered safe). I doubt you can bring the cpu voltage down much further. 

 

i believe Ryzen like tigher timings, but i havent dwelled into ram OC'ing yet

ill check it out now

[GoldenLag]

1 minute ago, Virtual_Gian said:

ill check it out now

You might be the 1 in a million capable of 4.2 without killing it over time with Voltage

[zaesho]

6 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

You might be the 1 in a million capable of 4.2 without killing it over time with Voltage

4.0 at 1.41 volts doesnt pass cinebench

[zaesho]

6 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

You might be the 1 in a million capable of 4.2 without killing it over time with Voltage

but ram is running well at 3ghz

[zaesho]

7 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

You might be the 1 in a million capable of 4.2 without killing it over time with Voltage

think i can get 4.2 but i dont think itllpass cinebench

 

[GoldenLag]

1 minute ago, Virtual_Gian said:

think i can get 4.2 but i dont think itllpass cinebench

 

I see. Ryzen is finiky as i alsl cant get past 3.9(probably mobo in my case). Better to use the old overclock then. I dont recommend going much past 1.4 volts. People have reported lower lifepans at 1.45 and killing it relativly quickly at 1.5

[zaesho]

Just now, GoldenLag said:

I see. Ryzen is finiky as i alsl cant get past 3.9(probably mobo in my case). Better to use the old overclock then. I dont recommend going much past 1.4 volts. People have reported lower lifepans at 1.45 and killing it relativly quickly at 1.5

yeah, im ok with 3.9 as it is only a 100mhz increase.... im going to try 1.35 for 3.9 instead of 1.6285

[zaesho]

3 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

I see. Ryzen is finiky as i alsl cant get past 3.9(probably mobo in my case). Better to use the old overclock then. I dont recommend going much past 1.4 volts. People have reported lower lifepans at 1.45 and killing it relativly quickly at 1.5

1.35 volts @3.9ghz, memory is at 3000mhz at 1.2 volts.

[Santo22]

I'd honestly be surprised if the Memory stays stable at that voltage. Passing Cinebench isn't a true indication of stability. I'd run Aida64 for a good hour to make sure. I mean anything is possible, but most RAM require at least 1.35 for an overclock. I'm running my TridentZ at 3000mhz at 1.35 and have tried 3200. At 3200 it would pass several CB runs but only last 20mins in Aida64

[zaesho]

1 hour ago, Santo22 said:

I'd honestly be surprised if the Memory stays stable at that voltage. Passing Cinebench isn't a true indication of stability. I'd run Aida64 for a good hour to make sure. I mean anything is possible, but most RAM require at least 1.35 for an overclock. I'm running my TridentZ at 3000mhz at 1.35 and have tried 3200. At 3200 it would pass several CB runs but only last 20mins in Aida64

ill try aida rn. ill get back at you with results.

 

[zaesho]

1 hour ago, Santo22 said:

I'd honestly be surprised if the Memory stays stable at that voltage. Passing Cinebench isn't a true indication of stability. I'd run Aida64 for a good hour to make sure. I mean anything is possible, but most RAM require at least 1.35 for an overclock. I'm running my TridentZ at 3000mhz at 1.35 and have tried 3200. At 3200 it would pass several CB runs but only last 20mins in Aida64

any help? my profile in ryzen master sets the voltage to 1.35 but when the system boots up, it just uses 1.2

[Santo22]

Personally, I don't use Ryzen Master. I did when I first finished my system just to see where the chip was happy, but all my settings are in Bios. I'm running a 1700x on a C6H at 3.9ghz with 1.375v. LLC level 2 and SOC at 1.15 LLC level 2. I'm also using DOCP for my 3000mhz RAM which helps put the timings where they should be 15-16-16-16-35 and 1.35v. But yeah, just set Ryzen Master at 3.9ghz, ram to 3000mhz and set your timings as per your SPD information. You can find the SPD in either CPU-Z or in the bios. Run Aida64 for about 20mins and if doesn't crash you can start lowering voltage. Once it crashes then raise the voltage back up a bit and let it run for 1-2hours. If it passes at that point you can either continue to let it run to make sure it's stable or start playing a bunch of different games. If you need any more help then that, let me know. 

[zaesho]

2 hours ago, Santo22 said:

Personally, I don't use Ryzen Master. I did when I first finished my system just to see where the chip was happy, but all my settings are in Bios. I'm running a 1700x on a C6H at 3.9ghz with 1.375v. LLC level 2 and SOC at 1.15 LLC level 2. I'm also using DOCP for my 3000mhz RAM which helps put the timings where they should be 15-16-16-16-35 and 1.35v. But yeah, just set Ryzen Master at 3.9ghz, ram to 3000mhz and set your timings as per your SPD information. You can find the SPD in either CPU-Z or in the bios. Run Aida64 for about 20mins and if doesn't crash you can start lowering voltage. Once it crashes then raise the voltage back up a bit and let it run for 1-2hours. If it passes at that point you can either continue to let it run to make sure it's stable or start playing a bunch of different games. If you need any more help then that, let me know. 

thanks, ocing in the bios doesnt work for me 3.5 ghz at 1.35 volts doesnt boot, and on ryzen master i have 3.9 on 1.35

[Santo22]

Hmm, most likely because something is not stable. Using software to overclock at times takes longer to show instability. What motherboard are you using? 

[zaesho]

On 5/15/2018 at 3:59 PM, Santo22 said:

Hmm, most likely because something is not stable. Using software to overclock at times takes longer to show instability. What motherboard are you using? 

Asrock X370 KIller SLi?

[Santo22]

That's a decent board and should overclock pretty well. Best I can offer with out knowing your exact OC attempts is watch a youtube video with a similar setup to yours and follow along. You should be able to get at least 3.8ghz with a bios overclock. You should start by overclocking the RAM though and making sure that is stable. Then go back in and start increasing core clock freq and voltage. You should be able to set DOCP and select 3000mhz for the RAM. Then change core clock to  manual and start around 3.8ghz and 1.35v. Also make sure you are setting RAM voltage to 1.35v. This is a good starting point and plenty safe for 24/7 use. RAM will actually take ALOT of voltage before any kind of degradation. 

[zaesho]

4 hours ago, Santo22 said:

That's a decent board and should overclock pretty well. Best I can offer with out knowing your exact OC attempts is watch a youtube video with a similar setup to yours and follow along. You should be able to get at least 3.8ghz with a bios overclock. You should start by overclocking the RAM though and making sure that is stable. Then go back in and start increasing core clock freq and voltage. You should be able to set DOCP and select 3000mhz for the RAM. Then change core clock to  manual and start around 3.8ghz and 1.35v. Also make sure you are setting RAM voltage to 1.35v. This is a good starting point and plenty safe for 24/7 use. RAM will actually take ALOT of voltage before any kind of degradation. 

ok will definately check it out