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Someone explain why Haswell would be better than Pentium?

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In general, when one CPU performs better than another CPU even though they have the same clockspeeds, number of cores or cache (or whatever other spec you might be comparing, it comes down to architecture, the way the electric workings of the chip itself is laid out. Newer CPUs are generally able to do more for each clock cycle than older ones, this is often referred to as IPC, instructions per clock.

 

So if you're wondering why an old CPU performs worse singlethreaded than a new CPU even though they run at the same clock speeds, there's your answer.

 

But there are other reasons why newer is better. Generally: more cores, lower power consumption, more features, integrated graphics. 

I now that they can have similar clock speeds but what makes one better than the other? What makes a one cpu greater than the other? (Could make a nice TechQuickie video)

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Pentium is 30+ years old. no support left for it

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New manufacturing process, more cores, more threads, more cache, smaller die, cooler, more power efficient, 291376512903875601293879 years newer, and may may more reasons. When you say Pentium do you mean P1, P2, P3, or P4?

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It's not all about clock speeds. Just because a Pentium chip and a Haswell chip have the same clock speed that doesn't mean that they will perform the same. They are completely different.

 

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It's not all about clock speeds. Just because a Pentium chip and a Haswell chip have the same clock speed that doesn't mean that they will perform the same. They are completely different.

 

you are completely wrong.

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*facepalm*

I know Haswell is better I understand that I was just looking for a explanation as to why. Doing that *facepalm* adds nothing to the conversation. What technical differences between the two makes one greater than the other. What changes makes one better than the other

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you are completely wrong.

Okay that is fine, But instead of saying that everyone on this thread is completely wrong it would be nice to elaborate why as well as answering the guys question.

 

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if you dont use hyperthreading then get pentium

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Okay that is fine, But instead of saying that everyone on this thread is completely wrong it would be nice to elaborate why as well as answering the guys question.

 

pentium is only a brand name you could also call it "i1"

 

"i1" aka Pentium G < i3 < i5 < i7

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pentium is only a brand name you could also call it "i1"

 

"i1" aka Pentium G < i3 < i5 < i7

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I know Haswell is better I understand that I was just looking for a explanation as to why. Doing that *facepalm* adds nothing to the conversation. What technical differences between the two makes one greater than the other. What changes makes one better than the other

u didn't specify what pentium u were talking about also haswell is an architecture not a cpu naming scheme so how could i contribute...

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Pentium as in like the old P4 or as in the current Pentium?, lets go with the Current Haswell Pentium vs something like an i5. What makes them different can be because of IPC (Instructions Per Clock), Clock speed, cores, architecture of the chip.

Put it this way, a Pentium can make a Lego building in 10 seconds at 3ghz and the i5 can do it in 1 second at 3ghz, One is faster even though its at the same clock speed.

 

Only way I could think of showing why they are different.

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In general, when one CPU performs better than another CPU even though they have the same clockspeeds, number of cores or cache (or whatever other spec you might be comparing, it comes down to architecture, the way the electric workings of the chip itself is laid out. Newer CPUs are generally able to do more for each clock cycle than older ones, this is often referred to as IPC, instructions per clock.

 

So if you're wondering why an old CPU performs worse singlethreaded than a new CPU even though they run at the same clock speeds, there's your answer.

 

But there are other reasons why newer is better. Generally: more cores, lower power consumption, more features, integrated graphics. 

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Pentium is 30+ years old. no support left for it

Nope not that old.

 

And it has x86 instruction set which means it's still supported. Whether it's fast enough to run your application usefully is a different question.

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Nope not that old.

 

And it has x86 instruction set which means it's still supported. Whether it's fast enough to run your application usefully is a different question.

ok 20 but still http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/feature/2256771/intels-pentium-processor-turns-20-years-old-today

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