Extremely Fast Boot speeds?

[Buhzrk]

I have a 950 PRO 250GB as my boot drive, and a 960 EVO as another drive(because I am too lazy to make this the boot drive)

I have never touched the boot settings, as I thought the boot speed was decently fast enough for me(around 15-25 seconds). But I'm now seeing quite some videos that show people have insanely fast boot speeds with like 4-5 seconds. Without having to turn on Fast Boot( because there may be some issues with it, as I've read), are there any other settings I can tweak in Windows or my BIOS that can cut down my boot time? Thank you guys!

[AvocadosGuac]

Could be bios times. Some bios's take forever to post after you press the power button, especially lower end ones.

[Buhzrk]

Well, I have an ASUS Maximus VIII Ranger motherboard... don't think that it's considered "lower end". any suggestions? thank you!

[Wh0_Am_1]

4 minutes ago, KhronosTheFirst said:

I have a 950 PRO 250GB as my boot drive, and a 960 EVO as another drive(because I am too lazy to make this the boot drive)

I have never touched the boot settings, as I thought the boot speed was decently fast enough for me(around 15-25 seconds). But I'm now seeing quite some videos that show people have insanely fast boot speeds with like 4-5 seconds. Without having to turn on Fast Boot( because there may be some issues with it, as I've read), are there any other settings I can tweak in Windows or my BIOS that can cut down my boot time? Thank you guys!

They could also be using larger SSDs, NVME drives, or Intel Optane drives. 

[Electronics Wizardy]

1 minute ago, KhronosTheFirst said:

Well, I have an ASUS Maximus VIII Ranger motherboard... don't think that it's considered "lower end". any suggestions? thank you!

often the higher end boards take longer to post as there is more stuff to initiaze.

 

Also pcie ssds make bootup longer as they have a longer init process than a sata ssd.

[DocSwag]

2 minutes ago, KhronosTheFirst said:

Well, I have an ASUS Maximus VIII Ranger motherboard... don't think that it's considered "lower end". any suggestions? thank you!

Maximus viii extreme, which is even higher end than yours, takes around 15 seconds

I'm honestly not sure where you're finding people with such fast boot times. I don't know if any boards able to post in less than 10 seconds.

[Buhzrk]

I see... But is m.2 not supposed to be much faster?

[Electronics Wizardy]

Just now, KhronosTheFirst said:

I see... But is m.2 not supposed to be much faster?

m.2 is a connector.

 

nvme can be much faster, but for bootup your not normally disk limited, you limited by other things, and the longer pcie init and other things affect boot time more than the slightly faster speeds.

 

Really nvme isn't a huge jump for random io, normally only 1.5-2 compared to sata.

[Buhzrk]

Just now, DocSwag said:

Maximus viii extreme, which is even higher end than yours, takes around 15 seconds

I'm honestly not sure where you're finding people with such fast boot times. I don't know if any boards able to post in less than 10 seconds.

Ah, ok thanks so much!

 

Possibly just because they're using Fast Boot

 

[tikker]

1 minute ago, KhronosTheFirst said:

I see... But is m.2 not supposed to be much faster?

M.2 is just a form factor. As for speed, PCIe drives are faster than SATA drives yes, but as mentioned:

 

3 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

Also pcie ssds make bootup longer as they have a longer init process than a sata ssd.

 

[Razor Blade]

With those videos is there a way to tell if the computer was off? From a low power state sub 5 seconds seems more plausible.

[DocSwag]

1 minute ago, KhronosTheFirst said:

Ah, ok thanks so much!

 

Possibly just because they're using Fast Boot

 

Especially in the first video considering how quickly it went through the bios portion it probably was on fast boot.

3 minutes ago, KhronosTheFirst said:

I see... But is m.2 not supposed to be much faster?

Nvme drives don't really improve boot times or app launch times much compared to a decent sata ssd. You don't really see the extra speed become noticeable except when doing large reads and writes of files, file transfers, using them as scratch disks, etc.

[manikyath]

Just now, Razor Blade said:

With those videos is there a way to tell if the computer was off? From a low power state sub 5 seconds seems more plausible.

my server does a full reboot in about 10 seconds, but thats because the thing is on a board with next to no features to init, and is stupidly overkill for the OS thats running on it. (not windows ofcourse)

 

past that my media center pc that's a celeron J1900 with some ram ducktaped to it makes it from cold to desktop in about 20 seconds, of which about 5 are waiting for the bios splash screen to appear.

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in essence, there's lots of tweaking that *can* be done, but chances are it'll cost a notable amount of money, and a stupid amount of time, to make a stupidly small difference.

 

even if money is no object, the amount of time tweaking required to go below 10 second boot times.. you'll never make "ROI" on your investment of time.

[AvocadosGuac]

2 hours ago, KhronosTheFirst said:

Well, I have an ASUS Maximus VIII Ranger motherboard... don't think that it's considered "lower end". any suggestions? thank you!

I meant lower end as in like cheap OEM boards. Ive seen those take 45 seconds to boot with a sata ssd on a fresh install.

[Razor Blade]

2 hours ago, manikyath said:

Spoiler

 

my server does a full reboot in about 10 seconds, but thats because the thing is on a board with next to no features to init, and is stupidly overkill for the OS thats running on it. (not windows ofcourse)

 

past that my media center pc that's a celeron J1900 with some ram ducktaped to it makes it from cold to desktop in about 20 seconds, of which about 5 are waiting for the bios splash screen to appear.

--

in essence, there's lots of tweaking that *can* be done, but chances are it'll cost a notable amount of money, and a stupid amount of time, to make a stupidly small difference.

 

even if money is no object, the amount of time tweaking required to go below 10 second boot times.. you'll never make "ROI" on your investment of time.

 

 

Yeah... after watching those two videos posted, it looks like it was more of just for show. Who knows what issues someone may have as a daily PC after tweaking everything just to get a very low boot time. I just timed my PC and from a dead cold boot it takes 32 seconds to get to the desktop. Which compared to the videos is a long time. But from where I came with my old computer? Now that I'm used to a 30ish second boot, an almost 3 minute boot time would make me want to shoot myself...