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Request for 2700x CSGO Benchmark

Jesmo
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Hi

I have a request. I'm considering switching to Ryzen 7 from my 7700k to get more of those sweet cores and threads, however I still spend alot of time playing csgo...

I know my current cpu is a beast at csgo compared to the previous ryzen processesors, but so far the reviews have showed a pretty preformance boost in csgo on the new 2xxx series. So here is my request:

Can someone run the csgo benchmark on a 2700X and tell me the results? Or just guide me to somewhere, where I can see it?

Thank you!

i7 7700K @ 4.8 Ghz (Kraken x52 aio cooler)

EVGA GTX 980 SC

Gigabyte GA-Z270XP-SLI Motherboard

EVGA SuperNOVA 750W G2 Power Suply

Phanteks Eclipse P400

Acer 144 hz monitor

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Firstly with a 980 and 7700K there isn't going to be a difference for CSGO with a 2700X. It's like getting 900 FPS instead of 850FPS. Even at 4K you can get well over 240FPS and there are only 240Hz 1080p monitors so it's pointless

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3 minutes ago, BuckGup said:

Firstly with a 980 and 7700K there isn't going to be a difference for CSGO with a 2700X. It's like getting 900 FPS instead of 850FPS. Even at 4K you can get well over 240FPS and there are only 240Hz 1080p monitors so it's pointless

I can understand that you don't play csgo :)

With a 980 at 1440p the CPU is still the bottleneck at low settings in csgo...

However I too quick with postning this question. I found this video showing 330fps on a 2700X and I did 350 with the same settings at 5Ghz....

 

If anyone can confirm this, I seriously am considering making the switch back to AMD (ohhh how I remember my old FX-6300 fondly)

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Any reason you need more of those sweet cores?

At any rate, I don't have a way to test it, but I believe with Ryzen 2000 cpu's you should be able to get +250 fps.  More or less depending on other variables, csgo is always cpu bound. 

CSGO can be a crapshoot sometimes, hugely affected by your minimums, drivers, settings/resolution, etc.  With a decent overclock 300/Ultra should be obtainable.  You'll take a hit in CSGO compared to intel but if you have other justifications for the switch it should still be an enjoyable experience (I can't really see latency being a factor beyond 300).

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1 minute ago, Biggerboot said:

Any reason you need more of those sweet cores?

At any rate, I don't have a way to test it, but I believe with Ryzen 2000 cpu's you should be able to get +250 fps.  More or less depending on other variables, csgo is always cpu bound. 

CSGO can be a crapshoot sometimes, hugely affected by your minimums, drivers, settings/resolution, etc.  With a decent overclock 300/Ultra should be obtainable.  You'll take a hit in CSGO compared to intel but if you have other justifications for the switch it should still be an enjoyable experience.

Yeah, I'm just curious how big my fps loss will be...

I'm mainly gonna use the extra threads for watching 1080p60fps streams while gaming (like a csgo tournemant) which currently have a big prefomance hit while playing csgo. Also for streaming, rendering.... And also I REALLY don't like how I had to delid my cpu and all the other stuff intel is up to.... I would like to support AMD while I got money to burn...

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14 minutes ago, BuckGup said:

Firstly with a 980 and 7700K there isn't going to be a difference for CSGO with a 2700X. It's like getting 900 FPS instead of 850FPS. Even at 4K you can get well over 240FPS and there are only 240Hz 1080p monitors so it's pointless

Latency is a factor too.  That's why CSGO player care that much about frame rates, although I think there are points of diminishing returns there too.

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7 minutes ago, Jesmo said:

I can understand that you don't play csgo :)

With a 980 at 1440p the CPU is still the bottleneck at low settings in csgo...

However I too quick with postning this question. I found this video showing 330fps on a 2700X and I did 350 with the same settings at 5Ghz....

 

If anyone can confirm this, I seriously am considering making the switch back to AMD (ohhh how I remember my old FX-6300 fondly)

I have over 1000 hours in CSGO. It used to run great but more recently it has gotten worse. With a 980 at 1440p you can easily get 160FPS. Past your screen refresh rate doesn't matter at all

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1 minute ago, Biggerboot said:

Latency is a factor too.  That's why CSGO player care that much about frame rates, although I think there are points of diminishing returns there too.

Is I understand, latenzy is where we saw the biggest improvement going from Ryzen 1xxx to 2xxx... Or am I wrong?

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1 minute ago, Biggerboot said:

Latency is a factor too.  That's why CSGO player care that much about frame rates, although I think there are points of diminishing returns there too.

Right but if you are getting 600fps with a 144hz monitor limiting it to 144fps won't change anything. Large dips are more of a problem and that usually happens with unlimited FPS

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1 minute ago, Biggerboot said:

Latency is a factor too.  That's why CSGO player care that much about frame rates, although I think there are points of diminishing returns there too.

60FPS -> 16,6ms

120FPS -> 8,3ms

240FPS -> 4,15ms

480FPS -> 2,075ms

960FPS -> 1,0375ms

 

youre already getting into the diminishsing returns above 240FPS which is easily achievable with both Intel and Ryzen CPUs in CS:GO.

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1 minute ago, BuckGup said:

I have over 1000 hours in CSGO. It used to run great but more recently it has gotten worse. With a 980 at 1440p you can easily get 160FPS. Past your screen refresh rate doesn't matter at all

Just a tip: Try lowering your settings until you hit 300fps, play a bit of DM and then lock the fps to 150fps in the command... You really should feel a big differnce. CSGO is not only about the monitors refreshrate...

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7 minutes ago, Jesmo said:

I'm mainly gonna use the extra threads for watching 1080p60fps streams while gaming (like a csgo tournemant) which currently have a big prefomance hit while playing csgo. Also for streaming, rendering.... And also I REALLY don't like how I had to delid my cpu and all the other stuff intel is up to.... I would like to support AMD while I got money to burn...

Watching and playing at the same time?  Does that really load your CPU up (you check tskmgr/afterburner)?

Anyway, Intel did kinda mess up with the 7700k thermals.  I don't think you would NEED to do that on an 8700k if you went that route.  Either way I'd try to wait out a bit, I have a hard time recommending an upgrade only one gen ahead.

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2 minutes ago, Jesmo said:

Just a tip: Try lowering your settings until you hit 300fps, play a bit of DM and then lock the fps to 150fps in the command... You really should feel a big differnce. CSGO is not only about the monitors refreshrate...

I used to play at unlimited FPS then I locked it to 165FPS and it was much better. Less random dips and tearing

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3 minutes ago, Jesmo said:

Just a tip: Try lowering your settings until you hit 300fps, play a bit of DM and then lock the fps to 150fps in the command... You really should feel a big differnce. CSGO is not only about the monitors refreshrate...

buy a 200hz CRT

 

get op singlethread performance cpu    and a low/mid end gpu,   enjoy fps and low latency

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Just now, BuckGup said:

I used to play at unlimited FPS then I locked it to 165FPS and it was much better. Less random dips and tearing

TBH, I also much rather play CS:GO with locked 160FPS + G-Sync than "unlimited" FPS.

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1 minute ago, BuckGup said:

I used to play at unlimited FPS then I locked it to 165FPS and it was much better. Less random dips and tearing

thats because unlimited fps tries to squeeze the most out of hardware resulting in input delay and higher cpu loads

 

limited fps will ease the stress on the hardware and allow it to have less input latency

 

tearing is bcoz of random fps numbers,   dips is from the hardware trying to squeeze more out of it

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1 minute ago, Valkyrie Lenneth said:

thats because unlimited fps tries to squeeze the most out of hardware resulting in input delay and higher cpu loads

 

limited fps will ease the stress on the hardware and allow it to have less input latency

 

tearing is bcoz of random fps numbers,   dips is from the hardware trying to squeeze more out of it

Yeah, even capping a few fps or so under what you would consider your average helps a lot, otherwise I get stutters too.  When the CPU is your bottleneck in any case it's just not very reliable.

Sometimes I get builder's itch

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1 minute ago, Valkyrie Lenneth said:

thats because unlimited fps tries to squeeze the most out of hardware resulting in input delay and higher cpu loads

 

limited fps will ease the stress on the hardware and allow it to have less input latency

 

tearing is bcoz of random fps numbers,   dips is from the hardware trying to squeeze more out of it

Its actually the other way around. More FPS results in less input delay, but I can see why it could work against you if it makes your CPU run full throttle and you would get big dips in FPS. Unlikely with 7700k or better CPU though (unless youre streaming at the same time).

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2 minutes ago, WereCat said:

Its actually the other way around. More FPS results in less input delay, but I can see why it could work against you if it makes your CPU run full throttle and you would get big dips in FPS. Unlikely with 7700k or better CPU though (unless youre streaming at the same time).

no, higher fps is less input delay but if the cpu cant handle it ur delay increases alot ( not because of fps dips )

 

alot of software also causes delay and settings such as pre rendered frames and what not, most delay is actually caused by software

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1 minute ago, Valkyrie Lenneth said:

no, higher fps is less input delay but if the cpu cant handle it ur delay increases alot ( not because of fps dips )

 

alot of software also causes delay and settings such as pre rendered frames and what not, most delay is actually caused by software

Yeah, makes sense. Also the ideal frame time numbers are just the perfect scenario.

240 FPS -> 4,15ms for example 

does not take in account the monitor response time, the response time between the input device and the PC (USB cable, Bluetooth, WiFi, ...), the reaction time of the player, network delay, etc...

I said that the diminishing returns kicks in after 240FPS but most likely in many cases, they kick in much sooner. There is so many factors to consider.

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1 minute ago, WereCat said:

Yeah, makes sense. Also the ideal frame time numbers are just the perfect scenario.

240 FPS -> 4,15ms for example 

does not take in account the monitor response time, the response time between the input device and the PC (USB cable, Bluetooth, WiFi, ...), the reaction time of the player, network delay, etc...

I said that the diminishing returns kicks in after 240FPS but most likely in many cases, they kick in much sooner. There is so many factors to consider.

ppl might say 240fps = 4ms... however 4ms doesnt include all the delay on drivers , software settings

 

stuff like sensor monitoring software can cause delay,  motionblur,aa , windows DWM  and WAY more settings ( to as deep as keyboard input settings in a registery aka regedit )

 

fps is one thing, however id rather have a fully tweaked system with 60fps then a untouched system with a crapload of software having 120fps

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55 minutes ago, Jesmo said:

Hi

I have a request. I'm considering switching to Ryzen 7 from my 7700k to get more of those sweet cores and threads, however I still spend alot of time playing csgo...

I know my current cpu is a beast at csgo compared to the previous ryzen processesors, but so far the reviews have showed a pretty preformance boost in csgo on the new 2xxx series. So here is my request:

Can someone run the csgo benchmark on a 2700X and tell me the results? Or just guide me to somewhere, where I can see it?

Thank you!

also the answer to this

 

7700k has better singlethread performance then a 2700x,  stick with the 7700k if u play csgo xD

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52 minutes ago, Valkyrie Lenneth said:

ppl might say 240fps = 4ms... however 4ms doesnt include all the delay on drivers , software settings

 

stuff like sensor monitoring software can cause delay,  motionblur,aa , windows DWM  and WAY more settings ( to as deep as keyboard input settings in a registery aka regedit )

 

fps is one thing, however id rather have a fully tweaked system with 60fps then a untouched system with a crapload of software having 120fps

If you have 240hz monitor it makes a difference. I mean it's alot about being able to follow movement and animations better but I guess that probably depends on the game. Anyways having fps locked at something like 300 fps isn't an issue with other games like overwatch. I am guess the reason it's bad with csgo is optimization. Also the theoretical maximum you can decrease your input delay to by having higher fps would be the combination of all other factors in input delay. Let's say 10ms is because of fps at 60fps. The rest of the factors make up another 40ms making it a total of 50ms. That means if you were to go and increase your fps to infinity you would still have a 40ms delay. This makes the a decrease in input lag due to fps not that important after a certain point. 

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3 minutes ago, Brooksie359 said:

If you have 240hz monitor it makes a difference. I mean it's alot about being able to follow movement and animations better but I guess that probably depends on the game. Anyways having fps locked at something like 300 fps isn't an issue with other games like overwatch. I am guess the reason it's bad with csgo is optimization. Also the theoretical maximum you can decrease your input delay to by having higher fps would be the combination of all other factors in input delay. Let's say 10ms is because of fps at 60fps. The rest of the factors make up another 40ms making it a total of 50ms. That means if you were to go and increase your fps to infinity you would still have a 40ms delay. This makes the a decrease in input lag due to fps not that important after a certain point. 

 

1 hour ago, Valkyrie Lenneth said:

buy a 200hz CRT

 

get op singlethread performance cpu    and a low/mid end gpu,   enjoy fps and low latency

^ if u had read this u would have known i know about hz already

 

also a 120hz crt is better then a 200hz ips/lcd/tft    crt doesnt have input latency or response time

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