Whats worth upgrading first CPU or GPU

[i_build_nanosuits]

Just now, SeeFights said:

Might take the ssd and hdd and reuse them but other that probably sell parts off

alright...that's funny

 

[SeeFights]

2 minutes ago, i_build_nanosuits said:

alright...that's funny

 

I thought you meant when i upgrade

[Debeant]

2 minutes ago, i_build_nanosuits said:

yeah i just saw it...for this use case i would go with an i5-8400 as it will perform better.

If Seefights is doing coding, the Ryzen will be a better choice, I think. The 1600's multicore performance is half again as fast, and if his budget includes a 1700, then it goes to about twice as fast.

[i_build_nanosuits]

10 minutes ago, Debeant said:

If Seefights is doing coding, the Ryzen will be a better choice, I think. The 1600's multicore performance is half again as fast, and if his budget includes a 1700, then it goes to about twice as fast.

coding?! in what world you live where writing and testing code require that level of multi-thread performance?

The only area where thos extra threads might be somewhat useful is if you're rendering or transcoding large video files all day long...other than that it's completely useless.

...maybe if you stream while gaming and run other stuff on the side it can get useful.

[Debeant]

3 minutes ago, i_build_nanosuits said:

coding?! in what world you live where writing and testing code require that level of multi-thread performance?

The only area where thos extra threads might be somewhat useful is if you're rendering or transcoding large video files all day long...other than that it's completely useless.

...maybe if you stream while gaming and run other stuff on the side it can get useful.

He said he's doing a course in game development. Compiling code can be parallelized for faster processing. Game development also means making 3D models, and probably other things that I probably don't fully understand because that process never really interested me. I do know that all of those benefit from multi-core CPUs far more than just gaming. I also am a proponent of a minimum of six cores for serious gaming machines because it frees up overhead for games to monopolize whatever cores are needed without having to shut down other programs.

[radiantai2001]

18 hours ago, hconverse02 said:

Well op's budget fits it, but an x600+16gb of fast ram is worth it over an r7+8gb of fast ram in any case

no I meant the 2700x with 16gb of slow ram

[hconverse02]

1 hour ago, mdthompson2001 said:

no I meant the 2700x with 16gb of slow ram

Oh yeah but at least 3000 mhz ram costs within $5-10 of 2400 mhz ram now

[SeeFights]

22 hours ago, Jurrunio said:

8700 > Ryzen 7 > 8400 > Ryzen 5 x600, depends on how much you have.

you say this but i goggled the difference in performance between a i5-8600k and a Ryzen 7 1700 and the difference is big and so is the price, would getting an i5-8600K be a better choice?

[Jurrunio]

21 minutes ago, SeeFights said:

you say this but i goggled the difference in performance between a i5-8600k and a Ryzen 7 1700 and the difference is big and so is the price, would getting an i5-8600K be a better choice?

8600k and 8700k both needs a good motherboard and cooling to work to their fullest potential, which pumps up the cost of using them significantly and lowers the price to performance ratio. That's why the 8600k isnt recommended. If you play games only and dont multi-task it's a good CPU though. It just doesnt seem like you are.

[SeeFights]

10 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

8600k and 8700k both needs a good motherboard and cooling to work to their fullest potential, which pumps up the cost of using them significantly and lowers the price to performance ratio. That's why the 8600k isnt recommended. If you play games only and dont multi-task it's a good CPU though. It just doesnt seem like you are.

I have a water cooler in place and primaraly play games, the uni i am attending have computers powerful enough to make games on, ill just be using my own for some spare time things 

[Jurrunio]

7 minutes ago, SeeFights said:

I have a water cooler in place and primaraly play games, the uni i am attending have computers powerful enough to make games on, ill just be using my own for some spare time things 

then 8600k is a better choice than Ryzen 7, not 8700 though.

[SeeFights]

Just now, Jurrunio said:

then 8600k is a better choice than Ryzen 7, not 8700 though.

which mobo would you suggest if it was you buying one?

 

[Jurrunio]

Just now, SeeFights said:

which mobo would you suggest if it was you buying one?

 

which one?

[thanos999]

just built a ryzen 5 2600 system easily clocks to 4.2ghz with a corsair h100 cooler and heres a picture off my best overclock and my parts currently running stable at a 4.2 with a 3.75 vram

[SeeFights]

2 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

which one?

yes which motherboard would you suggest me to buy?

[thanos999]

when i get a new gpu in a few weeks i will do a few bench marks

[Jurrunio]

2 minutes ago, SeeFights said:

yes which motherboard would you suggest me to buy?

I mean which CPU? Ryzen and Coffee dont share motherboards. Also, ATX or mATX and mITX?

[thanos999]

1 minute ago, SeeFights said:

yes which motherboard would you suggest me to buy?

get a motherboard with a x470 chipset asus make good motherboards

[SeeFights]

Just now, Jurrunio said:

I mean which CPU? Ryzen and Coffee dont share motherboards. Also, ATX or mATX and mITX?

oh my bad, for the 8600k, ATX

[Jurrunio]

1 hour ago, SeeFights said:

oh my bad, for the 8600k, ATX

At US prices, the Asrock Z370 Extreme4 will be my pick. If you can spend more than probably Asus Z370 Prime A or Z370-E

[asand1]

On 5/3/2018 at 8:28 AM, Jurrunio said:

CPU, because new cards are coming. Wont be good buys till next year, but call that time for you to save up some money.

I would pre-order a GPU and get it before miners wipe out the stock. You can always swap the card into a new build.

 

On the other hand, your bottleneck is already the CPU, so swapping the GPU won't give you any more performance, but Mobo/CPU would.