£1600 New Build, AM2 retirement

[Scruffmanmills]

Approximate Purchase Date: End of May

Budget Range: £1600

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming- Mainly RTS, Light Streaming 1080p, Mutli-tasking, Dual monitor setup, daily use internet etc. No video editing, or rendering.

Are you buying a monitor: Yes – Looking a VSYNC 1440P 60Hz/100Hz, Open to suggestions.

Parts to Upgrade: New Build from scratch, moving from 7 year old AMD2.

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: PC Specialist

Location: Northern Ireland, UK- I can build a PC myself but because of GPU prices prebuild from a site is cheaper.

Parts Preferences: Intel, not competitive gaming, high graphic settings for RTS which I’ve read uses higher single core usage so swaying to intel.

Proposed build:

 

Hard Wired

CPU:Intel i7-8600 £290

GPU: GTX1080 or 11G Geforce 1080ti £573/£758

RAM: Corsair Vengeance 16G DDR4 2666MHz, not sure of speed £161

Boot: 256G Samsung PM961 M.2 NMVE or 850 EVO SSD, don’t know if read write speeds matter for RTS gaming. £101

Stoarage: 1TB Firecuda SSHD £45

Motherboard: Asus Prime B360M-A mATX LGA1151 RGB £79  Need help here? H,B or Z board £110 max

PSU: Crosair 650W Semi - modular 80 Plus Gold £89

Cooler: Not Sure, H55 Hydro maybe? £55

 

£1608 on PC Specialist 

 

Any suggestions would be good saving money some places for better used areas.

Overclocking: Maybe – Not sure worthwhile spending money on a K processor and Z board, have the money for high end, never overclocked before.

SLI or Crossfire:  No

Your Monitor Resolution– Dual Setup - 1440P 60/100Hz, 1080p 60hz -Will use on board graphics for 1080p non gaming.

Additional Comments: Anno 2205, Heroes of the Storm, Diablo 3, Maybe PUBG, Subnautica, Discord, Multitasking.

And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading: 7 Year old computer is struggling with anything new can just play older stuff.

[VEXICUS]

7 minutes ago, Scruffmanmills said:

Approximate Purchase Date: End of May

Budget Range: £1600

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming- Mainly RTS, Light Streaming 1080p, Mutli-tasking, Dual monitor setup, daily use internet etc. No video editing, or rendering.

Are you buying a monitor: Yes – Looking a VSYNC 1440P 60Hz/100Hz, Open to suggestions.

Parts to Upgrade: New Build from scratch, moving from 7 year old AMD2.

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: PC Specialist

Location: Northern Ireland, UK- I can build a PC myself but because of GPU prices prebuild from a site is cheaper.

Parts Preferences: Intel, not competitive gaming, high graphic settings for RTS which I’ve read uses higher single core usage so swaying to intel.

Proposed build:

 

Hard Wired

CPU:Intel i7-8600 £290

GPU: GTX1080 or 11G Geforce 1080ti £573/£758

RAM: Corsair Vengeance 16G DDR4 2666MHz, not sure of speed £161

Boot: 256G Samsung PM961 M.2 NMVE or 850 EVO SSD, don’t know if read write speeds matter for RTS gaming. £101

Stoarage: 1TB Firecuda SSHD £45

Motherboard: Asus Prime B360M-A mATX LGA1151 RGB £79  Need help here? H,B or Z board £110 max

PSU: Crosair 650W Semi - modular 80 Plus Gold £89

Cooler: Not Sure, H55 Hydro maybe? £55

 

£1608 on PC Specialist 

 

Any suggestions would be good saving money some places for better used areas.

Overclocking: Maybe – Not sure worthwhile spending money on a K processor and Z board, have the money for high end, never overclocked before.

SLI or Crossfire:  No

Your Monitor Resolution– Dual Setup - 1440P 60/100Hz, 1080p 60hz -Will use on board graphics for 1080p non gaming.

Additional Comments: Anno 2205, Heroes of the Storm, Diablo 3, Maybe PUBG, Subnautica, Discord, Multitasking.

And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading: 7 Year old computer is struggling with anything new can just play older stuff.

WHERE ARE U LOCATED?

[Snapperx]

2 minutes ago, vexicus365 said:

WHERE ARE U LOCATED?

 

2 minutes ago, vexicus365 said:

Location: Northern Ireland, UK- I can build a PC myself but because of GPU prices prebuild from a site is cheaper.

Not sure if he edited in though.

[Dah budget gamer666]

What about Ryzen at MINI ITX system?

Amazon seems to be the cheapest, so i choosed Amazon for this.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1800X 3.6GHz 8-Core Processor  (£257.93 @ Amazon UK) 
CPU Cooler: Scythe - Shuriken Rev. B 3 11.8 CFM CPU Cooler  (£32.97 @ Amazon UK) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte - GA-AB350N-Gaming WIFI (rev. 1.0) Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard  (£98.85 @ Amazon UK) 
Memory: Patriot - Viper 4 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (£154.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: SanDisk - SSD PLUS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£56.93 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£35.80 @ Amazon UK) 
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB Mini ITX Video Card  (£580.00 @ Amazon UK) 
Case: RAIJINTEK - Metis Plus (Gold) Mini ITX Tower Case  (£59.14 @ Amazon UK) 
Power Supply: Cooler Master - MasterWatt 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£54.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Total: £1331.60
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-04-17 18:20 BST+0100

 

Or Intel preffered? Also Mini ITX, if you dont want a Mini ITX build just let me know then.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7GHz 6-Core Processor  (£277.92 @ Amazon UK) 
CPU Cooler: Scythe - Shuriken Rev. B 3 11.8 CFM CPU Cooler  (£32.97 @ Amazon UK) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte - Z370N WIFI Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard  (£136.97 @ Amazon UK) 
Memory: Patriot - Viper 4 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (£154.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: SanDisk - SSD PLUS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£56.93 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£35.80 @ Amazon UK) 
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB Mini ITX Video Card  (£580.00 @ Amazon UK) 
Case: RAIJINTEK - Metis Plus (Gold) Mini ITX Tower Case  (£59.14 @ Amazon UK) 
Power Supply: Cooler Master - MasterWatt 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£54.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Total: £1389.71
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-04-17 18:23 BST+0100

 

I hope you respond as fast as possible.

[matus177]

Okay, so here is my suggestion. It is a little bit over the budget but I think that it is worth the components. Rather go for 1080ti/8600k than 1080/8700k.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8600K 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor  (£205.00 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: be quiet! - Dark Rock Pro 3 67.8 CFM Fluid Dynamic Bearing CPU Cooler  (£65.92 @ More Computers)
Motherboard: ASRock - Z370 Extreme4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (£138.95 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  (£164.59 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£99.99 @ Aria PC)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£35.80 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Asus - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB STRIX GAMING OC Video Card  (£801.67 @ More Computers)
Case: Fractal Design - Meshify C Dark TG ATX Mid Tower Case  (£69.60 @ Aria PC)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£85.27 @ Aria PC)
Total: £1666.79
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-04-17 18:39 BST+0100

[Scruffmanmills]

3 hours ago, vexicus365 said:

WHERE ARE U LOCATED?

I'm based in Northern Ireland which is part of the UK.

[Scruffmanmills]

4 hours ago, matus177 said:

Okay, so here is my suggestion. It is a little bit over the budget but I think that it is worth the components. Rather go for 1080ti/8600k than 1080/8700k.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8600K 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor  (£205.00 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: be quiet! - Dark Rock Pro 3 67.8 CFM Fluid Dynamic Bearing CPU Cooler  (£65.92 @ More Computers)
Motherboard: ASRock - Z370 Extreme4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (£138.95 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  (£164.59 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£99.99 @ Aria PC)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£35.80 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Asus - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB STRIX GAMING OC Video Card  (£801.67 @ More Computers)
Case: Fractal Design - Meshify C Dark TG ATX Mid Tower Case  (£69.60 @ Aria PC)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£85.27 @ Aria PC)
Total: £1666.79
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-04-17 18:39 BST+0100

I like the build but the 1080ti is the issue not is stock and £150 over MSRP. Questions I have from the build.

 

1. Is the 1080ti worth the extra £281 for 1440p at 100Hz performance.

2. Why the upgrade of motherboard? H/B series goes for £79.

3. Storage wise a NVME 250G 960 is only extra £3

 

Here's my revised build

 

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/zZ83tg 1080 and i5 £1296.10

 

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/VV7JbX 1080ti and i7 £1623.50

[matus177]

24 minutes ago, Scruffmanmills said:

I like the build but the 1080ti is the issue not is stock and £150 over MSRP. Questions I have from the build.

 

1. Is the 1080ti worth the extra £281 for 1440p at 100Hz performance.

2. Why the upgrade of motherboard? H/B series goes for £79.

3. Storage wise a NVME 250G 960 is only extra £3

 

Here's my revised build

 

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/zZ83tg

1. Ye the 1080ti is worth it. It is a huge jump from 1080. Many people regret getting 1080 instead of 1080ti. It is meant for 4k60hz. With that budget I would totally go for the ti.

2. Asrock extreme4 is perfect motherboard. I think it is the best one for the price/quality and many people would agree. You need the z370 chipset to be able to overclock. You can get the 8600k easily to 5 ghz with this mb without it causing any issues such as overheating. It is just perfect Asrock really did a good job.

3. It is 500gb sata vs. 250gb m.2. You should not even consider the 960 evo in this case. There is no real life difference between these two. Yes on paper the 960 evo looks much better because of its speeds but you will never need that. Those fast m.2 nvme ssds are meant for people who are moving huge files all over tha place every day. I would rather have 250 gb more space for -3£.

 

EDIT: oh and if you decide to go with 1080ti get 650W psu something like evga g2 or g3, seasonic focus plus gold or corsairs rm series. 

[Scruffmanmills]

3 minutes ago, matus177 said:

1. Ye the 1080ti is worth it. It is a huge jump from 1080. Many people regret getting 1080 instead of 1080ti. It is meant for 4k60hz. With that budget I would totally go for the ti.

2. Asrock extreme4 is perfect motherboard. I think it is the best one for the price/quality and many people would agree. You need the z370 chipset to be able to overclock. You can get the 8600k easily to 5 ghz with this mb without it causing any issues such as overheating. It is just perfect Asrock really did a good job.

3. It is 500gb sata vs. 250gb m.2. You should not even consider the 960 evo in this case. There is no real life difference between these two. Yes on paper the 960 evo looks much better because of its speeds but you will never need that. Those fast m.2 nvme ssds are meant for people who are moving huge files all over tha place every day. I would rather have 250 gb more space for -3£.

Hmm interesting, my last AM2 lasted me 7 years so the big budget is for longevity, just reluctant to pay £800 for a £679 card because all the miners. I've never overclocked and don't know how, I know the 8700 boosts to 4GHz anyway, so not sure at this point hence not looking a Z series board, and overclocking is all voltage and temp management.

 

So I'm torn between non clocked MB with better processor a i7-8700 with a 1080/1080ti

 

Or a OC build with 8600k, OC motherboard and 1080/1080ti.

 

Stacked up 

 

1080ti vs 1080 = £281 difference

OC MB vs Non = £61  difference

I5 vs i7 = £90 difference

 

1. What will i get for the extra £431, is it more the bottle necking that the 1080/1080ti might create for the CPU, so overclocking is preferable.

 

2. Also I've heard the i7-8700 runs hot so would that cooler still be ok?

 

U've been helpful so far

[matus177]

2 hours ago, Scruffmanmills said:

Hmm interesting, my last AM2 lasted me 7 years so the big budget is for longevity, just reluctant to pay £800 for a £679 card because all the miners. I've never overclocked and don't know how, I know the 8700 boosts to 4GHz anyway, so not sure at this point hence not looking a Z series board, and overclocking is all voltage and temp management.

 

So I'm torn between non clocked MB with better processor a i7-8700 with a 1080/1080ti

 

Or a OC build with 8600k, OC motherboard and 1080/1080ti.

 

Stacked up 

 

1080ti vs 1080 = £281 difference

OC MB vs Non = £61  difference

I5 vs i7 = £90 difference

 

1. What will i get for the extra £431, is it more the bottle necking that the 1080/1080ti might create for the CPU, so overclocking is preferable.

 

2. Also I've heard the i7-8700 runs hot so would that cooler still be ok?

 

U've been helpful so far

Overclocking is not hard at all but you need to be careful especially with cpus. I recommend reading some articles/watching some videos about that. There are plenty of those for 8600k or 8700k as those are the most popular intel cpus, you might even find something for particular motherboard.

 

1. Okay so. The 1080 is already quite an old graphic card. Nvidia is releasing new series of graphic cards sometime in summer(probably). 1080ti is a really powerful card and it should last if you are aiming for longevity as you said. Here is a little comparison of i5 8600k and i7 8700. The 8600k is better for gaming it beats the 8700 easily and it is a beast when oced to 5 ghz. And it is cheaper than the 8700 (I am talking about the non-K version). If you plan to stream the 8700 would be a better choice because of 6C/12T. But you do not get the benefit of overclocking and it is a little bit slower in gaming, on the other hand it performs better in applications or games which can make use of those 12 threads.

 

2. For any of these cpus (8600k, 8700 or even 8700k) the Dark Rock Pro 3 should be good. I heard that the Dark Rock Pro 4 was released but I do not know when it will be available. It is one of the best air coolers you can currently get. Would not go for the liquid cooling. You can get same performance as 240/280mm liquid coolers with benefit of keeping the noise at low level(water pumps can be really loud).

 

Oh and even if you decide to go for the 8700 I suggest you getting the h370 chipset (like asrock h370 pro4). With a high end build like this the h310 is not a good choice as it lacks some features.

 

Yea, no problem man. We are here because of that.

[Scruffmanmills]

3 minutes ago, matus177 said:

Overclocking is not hard at all but you need to be careful especially with cpus. I recommend reading some articles/watching some videos about that. There are plenty of those for 8600k or 8700k as those are the most popular intel cpus, you might even find something for particular motherboard.

 

1. Okay so. The 1080 is already quite an old graphic card. Nvidia is releasing new series of graphic cards sometime in summer(probably). 1080ti is a really powerful card and it should last if you are aiming for longevity as you said. Here is a little comparison of i5 8600k and i7 8700. The 8600k is better for gaming it beats the 8700 easily and it is a beast when oced to 5 ghz. And it is cheaper than the 8700 (I am talking about the non-K version). If you plan to stream the 8700 would be a better choice because of 6C/12T. But you do not get the benefit of overclocking and it is a little bit slower in gaming, on the other hand it performs better in applications or games which can make use of those 12 threads.

 

2. For any of these cpus (8600k, 8700 or even 8700k) the Dark Rock Pro 3 should be good. I heard that the Dark Rock Pro 4 was released but I do not know when it will be available. It is one of the best air coolers you can currently get. Would not go for the liquid cooling. You can get same performance as 240/280mm liquid coolers with benefit of keeping the noise at low level(water pumps can be really loud).

 

Oh and even if you decide to go for the 8700 I suggest you getting the h370 chipset (like asrock h370 pro4). With a high end build like this the h310 is not a good choice as it lacks some features.

 

Yea, no problem man. We are here because of that.

So I've been watching some videos and will probably go for an OC i5 8600k, yes i would like to stream but at 1080p and not very often, mostly heroes of storm.

 

I'm also swaying towards staying 1080p with higher refresh rate 100hz , as a 27inch 1440p is £300. So could get save £100 there by getting a 1080p, any thoughts?

 

I'm tempted to wait until June/July for new cards might bring the 1080ti to £650/700 not sure.

 

I've defo made some decisions on other products from this forum and just need to decide on the to main points now.

 

Ultimately do you think its safe to order parts separately online to my house and build it myself, as for me yes I could maybe save £100 with a prebuild with regards GPU, but building it and fiddling about with setting is half the fun. But I'm worried about damage through shipping.

 

Thanks for your help so far

[Herman Mcpootis]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  (£248.39 @ Aria PC) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte - H310M S2H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (£52.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk) 
Memory: Crucial - Ballistix Sport LT 16GB (1 x 16GB) DDR4-2666 Memory  (£151.61 @ YoYoTech) 
Storage: Crucial - MX500 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£62.79 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£46.74 @ Aria PC) 
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB Mini Video Card  (£689.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk) 
Case: Fractal Design - Define Mini C TG MicroATX Mid Tower Case  (£73.30 @ Ebuyer) 
Power Supply: BitFenix - Formula Gold 550W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply  (£66.95 @ Overclockers.co.uk) 
Total: £1392.76
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-04-18 00:40 BST+0100

[Scruffmanmills]

3 minutes ago, Herman Mcpootis said:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  (£248.39 @ Aria PC) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte - H310M S2H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (£52.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk) 
Memory: Crucial - Ballistix Sport LT 16GB (1 x 16GB) DDR4-2666 Memory  (£151.61 @ YoYoTech) 
Storage: Crucial - MX500 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£62.79 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£46.74 @ Aria PC) 
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB Mini Video Card  (£689.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk) 
Case: Fractal Design - Define Mini C TG MicroATX Mid Tower Case  (£73.30 @ Ebuyer) 
Power Supply: BitFenix - Formula Gold 550W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply  (£66.95 @ Overclockers.co.uk) 
Total: £1392.76
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-04-18 00:40 BST+0100

@matus177 What do you think of this build for my intentions. RTS gaming 1080p, Id scrafice streaming.

[Dah budget gamer666]

Actually the GTX 1080 TI is only 22% faster than the GTX 1080.

If you overclock the GTX 1080, it will be faster than the GTX 1080 TI.

The only benefit for the GTX 1080 TI is the extra 3GB Vram.

Instead of that get a better CPU and get the GTX 1080.

http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-1080-Ti-vs-Nvidia-GTX-1080/3918vs3603

[matus177]

7 hours ago, Scruffmanmills said:

@matus177 What do you think of this build for my intentions. RTS gaming 1080p, Id scrafice streaming.

Would not go mini form factor with these components and would not pick the h310 chipset. Also for 10£ more you can have dual channel 3000mhz ram. Other than that seems nice.

 

I am having second thoughts about that graphic card after what@Dah budget gamer666 said. You should consider even going i7-8700k/1080. Might be more "future proof" for your needs. At the end graphic card is the easiet component to change.

 

 

[Scruffmanmills]

1 hour ago, matus177 said:

Would not go mini form factor with these components and would not pick the h310 chipset. Also for 10£ more you can have dual channel 3000mhz ram. Other than that seems nice.

 

I am having second thoughts about that graphic card after what@Dah budget gamer666 said. You should consider even going i7-8700k/1080. Might be more "future proof" for your needs. At the end graphic card is the easiet component to change.

 

 

@Dah budget gamer666 @matus177

 

1.Can you's recommend an OC 1080 that would be good to get?

2. If I get the i7-8700k is the cooler still adequate as I've heard it runs hot?

3. Which MB is best for overclocking the GPU and CPU same time? 

4. PC Specialist prebuild sell the 1080 close to MSRP, its a 8GB ASUS ROG STRIX GEFORCE GTX 1080, or still worth building it myself?

 

Edit: Here's a build https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/hwJQq4. not sure that 1080.

[Dah budget gamer666]

 

1. Do the exact same things as in this video:

Use these software: Msi afterburner and Unigine Heaven at High/Ultra settings.

 

2. Get this cooler: Cryorig R1 Ultimate https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=13C-000U-00002 , or you can buy it somewhere else.

 

3. As for the motherboard get this one: PRIME Z370-A, it is good for the price/performance ratio.

 

4. Just build it by yourself.

 

[Scruffmanmills]

27 minutes ago, Dah budget gamer666 said:

 

1. Do the exact same things as in this video:

Use these software: Msi afterburner and Unigine Heaven at High/Ultra settings.

 

2. Get this cooler: Cryorig R1 Ultimate https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=13C-000U-00002 , or you can buy it somewhere else.

 

3. As for the motherboard get this one: PRIME Z370-A, it is good for the price/performance ratio.

 

4. Just build it by yourself.

 

I'll give that a watch later, I'm pretty tech savvy so should be able to pick it up,

 

1.I've heard you need to manually turn your RAM up if its above 2666Mhz even if you have 3000Mhz?

 

That looks like a good cooler at its got good reviews I look into them, as the Dark Pro 3 is Fluid Dynamic.

 

2.Which 1080 should I get then, a non clocked out of the box 1080 or something like the EVGA 1080 O8G? OC ones seem to be £700 where standard you can get for £550 or so.

 

3. Whats the main difference between ASRock - Z370 Extreme4 and the Prime Z370-A?

[matus177]

Ye.

1. The asus strix 1080 is in my opinion one of the best cards but it can be quite expensive. Take a look at evga or gigabyte cards. They should be okay if you can find one for a good price.

 

2. Yes it is. As I said if you get a tower with two fans like dark rock pro 3, noctua nhd15 or even that cryorig r1 you should be perfectly fine.

 

3. I would recommend the Asrock z370 extreme4 (asrock and asus are the best manufacturers of boards). It is really superb board especially in overclocking. Best vrms in class.

 

4. Agree. Build it yourself. You dont want to give up that.

[matus177]

4 minutes ago, Scruffmanmills said:

I'll give that a watch later, I'm pretty tech savvy so should be able to pick it up,

 

1.I've heard you need to manually turn your RAM up if its above 2666Mhz even if you have 3000Mhz?

 

That looks like a good cooler at its got good reviews I look into them, as the Dark Pro 3 is Fluid Dynamic.

 

2.Which 1080 should I get then, a non clocked out of the box 1080 or something like the EVGA 1080 O8G? OC ones seem to be £700 where standard you can get for £550 or so.

 

3. Whats the main difference between ASRock - Z370 Extreme4 and the Prime Z370-A?

1. You just enable xmp in uefi

 

2. Evga should be very good. They have the best customer support. My go to choices for graphics are asus and evga.

 

3. They are basically the same but extreme4 > prime-a in overclocking

[Dah budget gamer666]

There are no difference between the regular GTX 1080's and the EVGA/Zotac/Gigabyte etc.

The only main difference are the cooler and the colors, but they perform the exact same.

Edit: And the customer support 

 

go for the ASRock Z370 Extreme 4, this one has good reviews in my country, and it is actually pretty cheap!

 

[Scruffmanmills]

10 minutes ago, Dah budget gamer666 said:

There are no difference between the regular GTX 1080's and the EVGA/Zotac/Gigabyte etc.

The only main difference are the cooler and the colors, but they perform the exact same.

Edit: And the customer support 

 

go for the ASRock Z370 Extreme 4, this one has good reviews in my country, and it is actually pretty cheap!

 

@matus177 @Dah budget gamer666

 

1. Ok so basically look for the cheapest 1080 from Asus or EVGA that isnt overclocked, and I can use afterburner to do it myself?

 

2. Go for the Asroc Z370, which speed of RAM should I go for to compliment the 1080 and i7-8700k?

 

Think I've finally got some kind of build sorted now so can work on the small details now. Thanks

[Dah budget gamer666]

1. Yes

 

2.between 2400MHZ-3200MHZ, higher than that is useless.

 

Good luck!

[Guest]

8 hours ago, Dah budget gamer666 said:

Actually the GTX 1080 TI is only 22% faster than the GTX 1080.

If you overclock the GTX 1080, it will be faster than the GTX 1080 TI.

The only benefit for the GTX 1080 TI is the extra 3GB Vram.

Instead of that get a better CPU and get the GTX 1080.

http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-1080-Ti-vs-Nvidia-GTX-1080/3918vs3603

The 1080 ti is more like 30% - 35% faster than a 1080 depending on the game. You are probably looking at about 10% - 15% improvement if you overclock the GTX 1080 so it isn't going to match a stock 1080 ti. 

 

He is only gaming at 1080p so a GTX 1070 would do fine anyway. 

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3 hours ago, Scruffmanmills said:

 

 

1. Ok so basically look for the cheapest 1080 from Asus or EVGA that isnt overclocked, and I can use afterburner to do it myself?

 

2. Go for the Asroc Z370, which speed of RAM should I go for to compliment the 1080 and i7-8700k?

 

Think I've finally got some kind of build sorted now so can work on the small details now. Thanks

For 1080p resolution you would be fine with a GTX 1070 or 1070 ti. You can always get a beefier gpu if you ever decide to move up to 1440p by which time the new Nvidia gpu's will have released.

 

Have you not considered Ryzen ? You could get an R5 2600 and X470 build for less than an 8700K/Z370. The reviews should start to appear from tomorrow onwards.