$525 bottom line Budget PC but will it get the job done? Do you see any room for improvements? Hey can you make an AMD? Better. for the same price

[Brett110489]

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tb37WD
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tb37WD/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel - Core i3-8100 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($112.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI - H310M PRO-VH Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($66.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: GeIL - EVO POTENZA 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  ($76.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda ES 750GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($24.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Asus - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB Phoenix Video Card  ($204.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Rosewill - FBM-05 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($9.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM (2015) 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($26.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $523.81
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-04-06 13:51 EDT-

 

 

 

the cpu could probably use a  cooler but it comes with one. I might have to up the price 20 bucks.

 

[Streetguru]

2 minutes ago, Brett110489 said:

 

The motherboard is trash, the PSU is trash, otherwise I'd suggest you get on AM4 in any event so you have an upgrade path to 8 core CPUs and potentially CPUs until 2020.

That hardrive is used and likely unreliable, wouldn't buy it as your daily driver.

Could save up the rest of your money for a few months until next generation GPUs are out, and just use the iGPU on the APU for a while.

Otherwise swap the i3 for the R3 2200G and Pro 4, the 1050ti is only $50 over it's MSRP I suppose.
 

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6QC7WD
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6QC7WD/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 3 2200G 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($99.79 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($74.39 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Team - Vulcan 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($91.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($43.21 @ OutletPC)
Case: Cougar - MG110 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($34.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Cooler Master - MasterWatt 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($50.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $395.36
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-04-06 13:57 EDT-0400

[Foul]

Under 500$.

Spoiler

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TbBkLJ
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TbBkLJ/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2400G 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($162.79 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: *MSI - B350M GAMING PRO Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($60.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: *Team - Vulcan 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($91.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: *Hitachi - Deskstar 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($51.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox Lite 5 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($48.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Power Supply: *Corsair - CXM (2015) 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($26.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $443.73
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-04-06 13:58 EDT-0400

645$.

But would be much better then what you have.

Spoiler

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ym7mGG
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ym7mGG/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($176.27 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: *MSI - B350 PC MATE ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($59.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: *G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($163.89 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: *Crucial - MX500 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($124.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: Antec - P8 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($53.41 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: *SeaSonic - G 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($67.39 @ SuperBiiz) 
Total: $645.94
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-04-06 14:00 EDT-0400

 

[Streetguru]

2 minutes ago, Foul said:

Under 500$.

I wouldn't buy an MSI AM4 board, and that Hitachi 2TB hard drive is also a used hard drive. Masterbox Lite 5 is trash and has no airflow.

[Electronics Wizardy]

Id get a better hdd or a ssd, That drive is old and will make the system very sluggish. Id take faster storage over a slightly faster cpu any day.

[Phiphe]

~525$

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ysbmq4

Maybe replace Mobo with B350

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jq6GGG

Buy gpu later

 

Wait for Ryzen 2 i suggest.

 

 

 

[Ashiella]

9 minutes ago, Foul said:

Under 500$.

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PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TbBkLJ
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TbBkLJ/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2400G 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($162.79 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: *MSI - B350M GAMING PRO Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($60.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: *Team - Vulcan 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($91.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: *Hitachi - Deskstar 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($51.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox Lite 5 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($48.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Power Supply: *Corsair - CXM (2015) 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($26.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $443.73
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-04-06 13:58 EDT-0400

645$.

But would be much better then what you have.

  Reveal hidden contents

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ym7mGG
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ym7mGG/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($176.27 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: *MSI - B350 PC MATE ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($59.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: *G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($163.89 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: *Crucial - MX500 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($124.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: Antec - P8 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($53.41 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: *SeaSonic - G 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($67.39 @ SuperBiiz) 
Total: $645.94
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-04-06 14:00 EDT-0400

 

There is no gpu listed for the 645$ build, the r5 1600 doesnt have on-board graphics.

[Brett110489]

the way specs tho the intel is so much better of a is CPU? I guess you would like one or the other.

[Brett110489]

58 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

The motherboard is trash, the PSU is trash, otherwise I'd suggest you get on AM4 in any event so you have an upgrade path to 8 core CPUs and potentially CPUs until 2020.

That hardrive is used and likely unreliable, wouldn't buy it as your daily driver.

Could save up the rest of your money for a few months until next generation GPUs are out, and just use the iGPU on the APU for a while.

Otherwise swap the i3 for the R3 2200G and Pro 4, the 1050ti is only $50 over it's MSRP I suppose.
 

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6QC7WD
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6QC7WD/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 3 2200G 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($99.79 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($74.39 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Team - Vulcan 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($91.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($43.21 @ OutletPC)
Case: Cougar - MG110 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($34.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Cooler Master - MasterWatt 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($50.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $395.36
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-04-06 13:57 EDT-0400

 I see you got it down to 395. That's good, but there's no graphics card included in that. And  I don't understand when people say a motherboard. is s***. So what I've been reading. Is the motherboard is just features? I have a  locked processor  anyways and. the builds  under $600.  I got definitely change the power supply if you really think that s*** Is just what was referred to me and its cheapest f*** is it's on sale?

[Streetguru]

Just now, Brett110489 said:

 I see you got it down to 395. That's good, but there's no graphics card included in that. And  I don't understand when people say a motherboard. is s***. So what I've been reading. Is the motherboard is just features? I have a  locked processor  anyways and. the builds  under $600.  I got definitely change the power supply if you really think that s*** Is just what was referred to me and its cheapest f*** is it's on sale?

You don't need a graphics card with the APU to run games, point there would be to save money in general because next generation GPUs are only a few months out. Basically you'd be running esports games at 1080p, or modern AAA games at 1080p low-medium settings

The CPUs are fairly comparable, especially with lower end GPUs where you aren't CPU bottlenecked anyways, and AM4 is just a better platform overall IMO, as you can overclock on cheaper B350 boards, and upgrade to cheap 8 core CPUs, like the R7 1700 is likely going down to $250 in the future when Ryzen 2 launches on April 19th.

That motherboard is trash likely because of a cheap VRM set up, and also because the VRM has no heatsinks.

The PSU is just just older and was never good, the newer CX (2017) 450W is fine, as is the masterwatt 550W
 

Here is why you want VRM heatsinks in general.

 

[Brett110489]

57 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

Id get a better hdd or a ssd, That drive is old and will make the system very sluggish. Id take faster storage over a slightly faster cpu any day.

Yeah, this is my first computer. Will even messing with and like almost 10? This SSD being able 2 run all your files  faster sounds really cool and. I'm really looking into this hybrid. Worth it to cut. Price, a little bit. Or even add priced have a hybrid as a backup. supposed to recognize the files you go to most frequently And run them faster.

[Ironi]

2 hours ago, Brett110489 said:

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tb37WD
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tb37WD/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel - Core i3-8100 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($112.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI - H310M PRO-VH Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($66.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: GeIL - EVO POTENZA 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  ($76.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda ES 750GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($24.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Asus - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB Phoenix Video Card  ($204.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Rosewill - FBM-05 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($9.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM (2015) 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($26.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $523.81
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-04-06 13:51 EDT-

 

 

 

the cpu could probably use a  cooler but it comes with one. I might have to up the price 20 bucks.

 

I Dont get why ppl recommand ryzen apus When a r3 1200 And a 1050 ti Will do the job way better

[Phiphe]

10 minutes ago, Wulfje said:

I Dont get why ppl recommand ryzen apus When a r3 1200 And a 1050 ti Will do the job way better

because its double the price

[Brett110489]

On ‎4‎/‎6‎/‎2018 at 2:00 PM, Streetguru said:

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6QC7WD
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6QC7WD/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 3 2200G 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($99.79 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($74.39 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Team - Vulcan 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($91.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($43.21 @ OutletPC)
Case: Cougar - MG110 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($34.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Cooler Master - MasterWatt 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($50.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $395.36

AMD - Ryzen 5 2400G 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor

  I want this one, multi threading.

Here's the problem.

 

• AMD - Ryzen 5 2400G 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor and ASRock - AB350M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard are not compatible.
• Some AMD B350 chipset motherboards may need a BIOS update prior to using Raven Ridge CPUs. Upgrading the BIOS may require a different CPU that is supported by older BIOS revisions.

 

 

[Streetguru]

1 minute ago, Brett110489 said:

 

Just need to contact the retailer before hand, but at this point all of the motherboards are probably updated

 

at worse you have to contact AMD about getting a BIOS kit