Windows 10 for $20?

[Teo Villanueva]

Hi, im finishing my build and the time to choose the OS has come. I live in argentina, and our currency is bases on pesos (1 Dollar = 20.40 Pesos) <-- Pls dont laugh its serious XDDD

Well theres a website called MercadoLibre that is like ebay or a New/Used E-Shop were people can sell what they want... exept ilegal things....\

But, im searhing for a windows 10 PRO KEY or idk and i found a Legit Windows 10 pro key for 450 pesos (20 dollars) wich seems very suspicios to me, i know that they sell keys on g2a or kinguin.com but i reaaly dont understand why in microsoft website they are selling them for 5500 pesos... Can someone explain me? ik that theres something about retail keys or manufacturers keys or idk what.

 

Thx!

[LienusLateTips]

Grey market. Against Microsoft ToS but they still sell.

(Don't be ashamed, TWD is 30 to 1 USD or something and Korean Won is 1000 to 1)

[Teo Villanueva]

12 minutes ago, JDE said:

Grey market. Against Microsoft ToS but they still sell.

(Don't be ashamed, TWD is 30 to 1 USD or something and Korean Won is 1000 to 1)

So its kinda illegal? i just want to play games 

[Jtalk4456]

i don't know about your site, but there is a site called kinguin that sells win 10 for 20

the idea is that companies end up with liscences they dont need or use when purchasing equipment so the sell the software online cheaper than normal since they got it with the equipment

 

https://www.kinguin.net/faq/

[Teo Villanueva]

12 minutes ago, Jtalk4456 said:

i don't know about your site, but there is a site called kinguin that sells win 10 for 20

the idea is that companies end up with liscences they dont need or use when purchasing equipment so the sell the software online cheaper than normal since they got it with the equipment

i really dont see Lenovo selling keys in kinguin.com

[BlueChinchillaEatingDorito]

22 minutes ago, Teo Villanueva said:

Hi, im finishing my build and the time to choose the OS has come. I live in argentina, and our currency is bases on pesos (1 Dollar = 20.40 Pesos) <-- Pls dont laugh its serious XDDD

Well theres a website called MercadoLibre that is like ebay or a New/Used E-Shop were people can sell what they want... exept ilegal things....\

But, im searhing for a windows 10 PRO KEY or idk and i found a Legit Windows 10 pro key for 450 pesos (20 dollars) wich seems very suspicios to me, i know that they sell keys on g2a or kinguin.com but i reaaly dont understand why in microsoft website they are selling them for 5500 pesos... Can someone explain me? ik that theres something about retail keys or manufacturers keys or idk what.

 

Thx!

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[dizmo]

They work, most of the time. They're usually bulk keys, so sometimes they don't. A decent seller will just give you another key if yours turns out not to work. Keep in mind this isn't what Microsoft intended these for, so if you have any issues with Windows, you really have no right to complain.

[johnukguy]

You can get Windows 10 keys on Ebay for about $5 and they will work just fine. And no, these keys are not illegal.

[LogicalDrm]

Any key that is sold under ~$80 is grey market key. With software calling something illegal isn't correct term. Only things that are actually illegal are those which are acquired by theft. Meaning pirated, cracked and bought with stolen credit cards. With most keys this isn't true. Most of the keys sold sub-$80 are acquired according to MS ToS, but are then re-sold which is breach of ToS.

 

G2A is apparently added part in their own ToS which has essentially seized all trades for MS keys on the site. Meaning that they require proof of validated retailer. So you don't find any MS keys on that site. Tells much, don't you think....

 

10 hours ago, Jtalk4456 said:

i don't know about your site, but there is a site called kinguin that sells win 10 for 20

the idea is that companies end up with liscences they dont need or use when purchasing equipment so the sell the software online cheaper than normal since they got it with the equipment

 

https://www.kinguin.net/faq/

 

No large corporation which uses OEMs would risk loosing their retailer rights by re-selling OEM keys on those sites. You are free to read both Kinguin ToS (in which they wash their hands from re-selling of anything that violates original ToS of the product being sold) and MS ToS of OEM keys (not for re-sale, only to be sold with full systems, only to be distributed within corporation etc.)

 

2 hours ago, johnukguy said:

You can get Windows 10 keys on Ebay for about $5 and they will work just fine. And no, these keys are not illegal.

 

They aren't illegal. But they are violating both MS ToS (read above) and eBay ToS (prevents sales of digital software unless already installed on device).

[johnukguy]

4 hours ago, LoGiCalDrm said:

They aren't illegal. But they are violating both MS ToS (read above) and eBay ToS (prevents sales of digital software unless already installed on device).

The only people saying they are grey market are YouTube commentators, who don't know their asses from their elbows much of the time. I can guarantee that you can buy just about any key, ask Microsoft whether it's from some grey market or not and they won't be able to tell you. As for TOS, they're largely meaningless and not legally binding in any sense until tested in court, and that would only be within the jurisdiction for that court, so not globally. So it really doesn't matter as in it makes absolutely no difference to the end user, apart that is from not spending more than they need to.

[LogicalDrm]

1 hour ago, johnukguy said:

The only people saying they are grey market are YouTube commentators, who don't know their asses from their elbows much of the time. I can guarantee that you can buy just about any key, ask Microsoft whether it's from some grey market or not and they won't be able to tell you. As for TOS, they're largely meaningless and not legally binding in any sense until tested in court, and that would only be within the jurisdiction for that court, so not globally. So it really doesn't matter as in it makes absolutely no difference to the end user, apart that is from not spending more than they need to.

When something is not sold buy authorized party, its grey market. You can't argue with that, its definition of the word. MS do have records of all keys. They do know if it came from volume pack, corporation license bunch or OEM licensed to some manufacturer. Thats how they are able to blacklist keys found to be resold against ToS of original purpose. They don't do it in masses as, like it or not, they like to gain market share and abilities it brings.

 

I don't (often) take stance whether someone should buy grey market key or not. But calling keys legit/illegal or some marketplace legit for getting keys or not is different. That should always be mentioned when user asks if something is authorized place to buy or not.

[johnukguy]

14 hours ago, LoGiCalDrm said:

When something is not sold buy authorized party, its grey market. You can't argue with that, its definition of the word. MS do have records of all keys. They do know if it came from volume pack, corporation license bunch or OEM licensed to some manufacturer. Thats how they are able to blacklist keys found to be resold against ToS of original purpose. They don't do it in masses as, like it or not, they like to gain market share and abilities it brings.

 

I don't (often) take stance whether someone should buy grey market key or not. But calling keys legit/illegal or some marketplace legit for getting keys or not is different. That should always be mentioned when user asks if something is authorized place to buy or not.

Except that it's a non issue. The way keys are made as it were is by an algorithm, by software, there is no fixed record of every single key. It's constantly changing. There is only whether or not they match certain specifications when people come to try and activate them, which is decided again firstly by software. If they don't match then yes, there are problems and that can apply to some OEM keys for example if they're activated already on a system, but the vast majority of so called grey market keys are not labelled on some list as somehow not legitimate. And this is easy to prove by the way, if you ever buy one, pretend it won't activate and call Microsoft, it will be accepted as a legitimate key because it matches the appropriate specifications. No flag will pop up saying that it's not legitimate. That's not how it works. Now there are of course those who do dispose of keys that have already been assigned, used, or set for specific situations and so on that will flag the system, and there I completely agree with you. Those though are somewhat different and this only applies to a relatively small number of keys, and it can happen on 'legitimate' sites, as well as so called grey market ones.