Planning to build a PC or Laptop

[M.A.P]

I planning to build a 600$ PC or Laptop if PC I'll go with 2200g and rx 560 as monitor is also included in the build. But I want to consider the laptop options too. So for now I'm considering this

Eluktronics W650KK1 with a new pentium g4560 or a used i5. Here is my question are there any coffee lake barebones available? Or are there any better laptops than this barebone I mean with everything included for 600$? I'm happy if there are any AMD barebones I don't find any if there are any please give me the link.

[Streetguru]

2 minutes ago, M.A.P said:

 

Does the laptop just accept desktop CPUs? What's the cooling like on it? Does it come with a power supply?

If you get a desktop PC don't buy a dedicated GPU, just live with the APU graphics until GPU prices go down or next gen GPUs are out, desktop system should be like $400 or less.

 

[M.A.P]

1 minute ago, Streetguru said:

Does the laptop just accept desktop CPUs?

Yes it accepts LGA 1151 socket CPUs until Kaby Lake

[TheSLSAMG]

7 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

Does the laptop just accept desktop CPUs? What's the cooling like on it? Does it come with a power supply?

If you get a desktop PC don't buy a dedicated GPU, just live with the APU graphics until GPU prices go down or next gen GPUs are out, desktop system should be like $400 or less.

 

 

Apparently this is what it is capable of with a 7700K at 4.4GHz relidded with CLU and a -100mV undervolt. Also can do 74C with an i5 7500 stock.

 

[M.A.P]

2 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

What's the cooling like on it? Does it come with a power supply?

It's good I saw reviews about it. It is one the quieter side. I get external Power brick for charging and also as it is GTX 1050ti mobile I'm not really loosing much performance compared to rx 560

[Jurrunio]

@ZM Fong can give you some ideas on laptops. However, I can't find this barebones laptop with a CPU that doesnt add up shooting through $600.

 

As for desktop, I say save that bit of money from RX 560 to high frequency memory (and maybe 2400g) instead, since you have to get rid of the graphics card in your next upgrade anyway

2 minutes ago, M.A.P said:

It's good I saw reviews about it. It is one the quieter side. I get external Power brick for charging and also as it is GTX 1050ti mobile I'm not really loosing much performance compared to rx 560

RX560 is more like a 1050, so I'm not surprised to see it lose out to the mobile 1050ti.

[M.A.P]

7 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

just live with the APU graphics until GPU prices go down or next gen GPUs are out, desktop system should be like $400 or less.

I'll buy few parts in India and few in US. I'll buy RX 560 in India. There I can get it for 160$

[Streetguru]

Just now, M.A.P said:

I'll buy few parts in India and few in US. I'll buy RX 560 in India. There I can get it for 160$

The whole point of the APU system is that you don't really need a dedicated GPU though, can just save your money there and live with an R3 2200G system's iGPU, so long as you have fast RAM it'll be alright for 1080p gaming.

[M.A.P]

Just now, Streetguru said:

The whole point of the APU system is that you don't really need a dedicated GPU though, can just save your money there and live with an R3 2200G system's iGPU, so long as you have fast RAM it'll be alright for 1080p gaming.

The thing is I keep the system for 5-6 years minimum.

[Streetguru]

Just now, M.A.P said:

The thing is I keep the system for 5-6 years minimum.

Right but instead of $160 for an RX 560 right now, if you can save up like $250-300 when next gen GPUs drop that gets you performance above an RX 580 or 1060 at least.

[NelizMastr]

3 minutes ago, M.A.P said:

The thing is I keep the system for 5-6 years minimum.

The 560 won't allow you to game for even 2 years, though. Just get a 2200G or 2400G and get a GPU down the line when prices are more friendly.

[M.A.P]

Are there any coffee lake barebones?

[M.A.P]

2 minutes ago, NelizMastr said:

The 560 won't allow you to game for even 2 years, though. Just get a 2200G or 2400G and get a GPU down the line when prices are more friendly.

 

6 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

The whole point of the APU system is that you don't really need a dedicated GPU though, can just save your money there and live with an R3 2200G system's iGPU, so long as you have fast RAM it'll be alright for 1080p gaming.

I'm upgrading from a gt 610 and 1366x768 monitor so I don't game that much. I buying this to enter into gaming. 

[NelizMastr]

4 minutes ago, M.A.P said:

 

I'm upgrading from a gt 610 and 1366x768 monitor so I don't game that much. I buying this to enter into gaming. 

The integrated graphics in the 2200G and 2400G are about as fast as a GTX650TI and GTX750, so yeah. No real need for a dedicated card in your case.

[M.A.P]

Just now, NelizMastr said:

The integrated graphics in the 2200G and 2400G are about as fast as a GTX650TI and GTX750, so yeah. No real need for a dedicated card in your case.

Yeah I know that they are very capable chips but the thing is I'm not able to decide between laptop and desktop. I made a thread previously about a build with 2400g now changed it to 2200g and 560 and now thinking that 2400g should be enough.

[paddy-stone]

If you're gonna get a discrete GPU anyway, then you don't need to bother buying an APU... I agree with the others that if you go with the APU, don't bother getting a GPU also, save your money for getting one when you NEED it, you'll get much better value for your money.

[M.A.P]

7 minutes ago, paddy-stone said:

If you're gonna get a discrete GPU anyway, then you don't need to bother buying an APU... I agree with the others that if you go with the APU, don't bother getting a GPU also, save your money for getting one when you NEED it, you'll get much better value for your money.

If desktop I'm stuck between 2400g or 2200g and 560 as 2200g costs only 6$ more than 1200 and also 2200g is having more clock speed and all 4 cores are in 1 cluster.

[Streetguru]

6 minutes ago, M.A.P said:

If desktop I'm stuck between 2400g or 2200g and 560 as 2200g costs only 6$ more than 1200 and also 2200g is having more clock speed and all 4 cores are in 1 cluster.

 

12 minutes ago, paddy-stone said:

If you're gonna get a discrete GPU anyway, then you don't need to bother buying an APU... I agree with the others that if you go with the APU, don't bother getting a GPU also, save your money for getting one when you NEED it, you'll get much better value for your money.

You'd want an APU anyways because they replaced the other R3 and R5 chips, but if you're buying an APU you don't really need to get a dedicated GPU.

[M.A.P]

1 minute ago, Streetguru said:

 

You'd want an APU anyways because they replaced the other R3 and R5 chips, but if you're buying an APU you don't really need to get a dedicated GPU.

 

14 minutes ago, paddy-stone said:

If you're gonna get a discrete GPU anyway, then you don't need to bother buying an APU... I agree with the others that if you go with the APU, don't bother getting a GPU also, save your money for getting one when you NEED it, you'll get much better value for your money.

Yeah I agree but I'm stuck whether to get pc or laptop.

[Streetguru]

Those guys are fast.

[M.A.P]

1 minute ago, Streetguru said:

Those guys are fast.

Are they out now?

[Streetguru]

3 minutes ago, M.A.P said:

Are they out now?

No buy probably wait now I guess

[genexis_x]

29 minutes ago, M.A.P said:

Are there any coffee lake barebones?

N950TP6 with GTX 1060 and other enthusiast models like P750TM/P775TM/P870TM

 

Do you need portability? If yes, go for laptop. If not then desktop. W650KK1 is the only choice I can think if you have only $600 to spend on a gaming laptop. Socketed CPU means you can change the G4560/G4600 to an i7 7700 in future, however I would not advise swapping CPU more than 65W TDP rating since the mobo and cooling may not be able to handle it. This model needs repaste. The 2c4t Kaby Lake Pentium CPU should not bottleneck the 1050TI in most cases so don't worry. If desktop, get a 2400G+high speed memory and slap a decent GPU into the system when GPU prices goes normal again. The Vega iGPU should be able to handle most games at least at lowest settings, 720p.

 

Getting a gaming laptop or gaming prebuilt desktop seems a right choice now since RAM and GPU prices are inflated heavily.

[M.A.P]

1 minute ago, ZM Fong said:

41 minutes ago, M.A.P said:

Are there any coffee lake barebones?

N950TP6 with GTX 1060 and other enthusiast models like P750TM/P775TM/P870TM

Is there a coffee lake barebone under 450 or 500$ so I can sum it up to 600 after including all the parts

 

[paddy-stone]

2 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

 

You'd want an APU anyways because they replaced the other R3 and R5 chips

 

??? -  the first gen SKUs still exist and can be bought if that's what he wanted.. I wouldn't advise that, but it's an option... and AFAIK there should be a 2600/X being released also. But haven't seen anything concrete and could be another few months yet. The APUs are a great buy, I was just saying that there are other options.

Just now, M.A.P said:

 

Yeah I agree but I'm stuck whether to get pc or laptop.

I'd always choose desktop, laptops have their place, but IMO unless you are going to want to use it at school/work then a desktop is preferable still ATM IMO... with a desktop you have better cooling and so can overclock to get some more performance, are easily upgradeable and therefore would get more use out of the parts than a laptop... the downsides are that you need a monitor or TV, peripherals and not as easy to move, and can't use on the move/out and about like a laptop can.

 

TBH, I would go with something like this  https://pcpartpicker.com/list/W7zXP3

 

You can change for a cheaper mobo, like the Asrock AB350M pro4 if you want. Can change the PSU and case too, they're just my personal preferences and IMO good parts.