Huawei P20 Lite released - Dual cameras and a notch for 370 euros

[Guest The Viking]

20 hours ago, dizmo said:

Their SoC's aren't that great (P20 devices are significantly behind SD845 devices)

Kirin chips are just fine. They do all you want without issues.

20 hours ago, dizmo said:

, and if they don't specify UFS storage, you might not get it; even on flagship devices. They just throw in whatever's handy. Which, to me, is completely unacceptable.

 

If you get one with UFS, sure. With the Huawei P9 some people were getting eMCC memory, which is significantly slower. Huawei's reasoning: We didn't specify memory type on the spec sheet.

Reviewers, of course, got cherry picked units.

Here, why don't you go bash Samsung too for it? https://androidcommunity.com/some-samsung-galaxy-s8-have-slower-storage-than-others-20170508/

 

It seems they do exactly the same. Shame on you Samsung! You are number 1 yet are selling overpriced crap to people.

[dizmo]

21 hours ago, Trixanity said:

Their SoC business is on a different schedule. So Qualcomm managed to implement A75 cores versus Huawei still toying with A73. If you talk GPU, then sure. Adreno is the undisputed king.  

Last year CPU performance was mostly the same. But either way it's irrelevant because it doesn't ship with a flagship SoC. What you can accuse Huawei of is refreshing the same mid tier chip for like 2 or 3 years straight. It's the same chip as last year with a minor speed bump from what I can tell.

 

The storage thing is true though. It does seem to be a bigger problem in China and other parts of Asia than in Europe.

But this is irrelevant for this model too. I'm quite sure it's eMMC across the board.

Yeah, I know. But that doesn't change the fact that they're holding on to chips for too long. Up the release schedule, and catch up with the rest.

This doesn't, but the P20/Pro releasing shortly does.

 

Really? Gross. Yet another reason I wouldn't consider this product. I'm not paying that much for a phone with eMMC memory. It should be UFS at that price point.

21 hours ago, DocSwag said:

Damn I didn't know that... that really sucks.

 

If only they used UFS all the time... their NAND performance is really REALLY good...

Yeah, I agree. Their attitude to the whole matter is what really bothered me.

21 hours ago, Curufinwe_wins said:

That isn't quite true. You don't want a notch that is smaller than a line of display text (for design integration reasons), so they make it exactly that height, even if the bezel could be even smaller. The notch is approximately 12mm tall. (I say approximately because no one seems to have cared to properly measure in anything other than pixels, and I'm giving myself a +/- 2 mm cushion here. plus the overall screen bezel needs to still be added). The S9-series phones for example have a top bezel that is approximately 7mm thick to the edge of the frame. Obviously an extreme example, but if you look at the other notched phones this year, I honestly ask myself, why the fuck is the thickness from the top of the phone increasing now? It is just to have a "sufficiently pronounced" notch? Because that does seem counter to the real goal of the people pushing edge to edge displays.

 

Like look at that crap... 

Obvious semi-extreme example, but still.

 

Now... in theory they could make a notch that is exactly the required height (and width) and gain the best of both (although, I don't actually think it's worth the other compromises that occur in software/hardware. That is a separate debate.), but I don't think they will do that anytime soon (again because it's all about the design language.)

That doesn't change the fact that what I said is true. Yes, the information that's on the top line of a regular phone is moved to either side of the notch. I'm not entirely sure what you were trying to get at with all that. Again, not all notches are the same. Look at the Essential Phone. It's tiny.

[DrMacintosh]

Notch> curved edges

[Djole123]

On 3/21/2018 at 3:29 PM, The Viking said:

I feel you don't know that...

 

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Honor is owned by Huawei....

 

Lol at you, I own an Honor

 

That's why I said wait for the new Honor, Huawei usually sells phones under the Huawei brand at a markup because of the marketing. I have several friends who have the Huawei P10 Lite who didn't even know the Honor 8 Lite existed, even tho it's basically the same phone.

[Guest The Viking]

51 minutes ago, Djole123 said:

Lol at you, I own an Honor

the way you were talking felt you didn't know both brands are related 

 

it's true though that you can get the mate 10 for 200 euro less.... honor view 10. Then again, I am fine paying a bit more and getting the "Huawei" branded model, as I prefer that.

[Bananasplit_00]

can we stop with the Iphone X clones android manufactureres? these all look like shit tbh

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On 3/21/2018 at 8:06 AM, Djole123 said:

370 euros is by no means budget tho

it is for me  

[kokakolia]

3 hours ago, Bananasplit_00 said:

can we stop with the Iphone X clones android manufactureres? these all look like shit tbh

It’s only gonna get worse! Android P is natively supporting notches. I just think that it’s so dumb to have a wide notch like the iPhone X. Just “extend” the notch slightly on both sides so that you effectively make it disappear. I don’t think that most people will miss the lost screen real estate.