I7-5930K Upgrade Path

[SawmanTheNerd]

Hello, I currently have a 5930k and I was wondering if there is an upgrade path that I could take right now. It's not like it is a limiting factor right now but I have been looking into getting a new mobo and if I'm going to do that, it seems kinda pointless in getting another x99 board... I use almost all my pci-e lanes so I'm not really willing to upgrade to a cpu with less lanes. What are your guy's suggestions on an upgrade?Thanks in advance!

[i_build_nanosuits]

4 minutes ago, SawmanTheNerd said:

Hello, I currently have a 5930k and I was wondering if there is an upgrade path that I could take right now. It's not like it is a limiting factor right now but I have been looking into getting a new mobo and if I'm going to do that, it seems kinda pointless in getting another x99 board... I use almost all my pci-e lanes so I'm not really willing to upgrade to a cpu with less lanes. What are your guy's suggestions on an upgrade?Thanks in advance!

what are you doing with the machine?

[SawmanTheNerd]

5 minutes ago, i_build_nanosuits said:

what are you doing with the machine?

A little bit of everything, gaming, video editing, graphic design, and a little bit of CAD. That's the reason I went with the 5930k at the time, as it was best overall at the time and it didn't sacrifice too much single core performance for multi core performance, and like I mentioned before, pci-e lanes.

[i_build_nanosuits]

Just now, SawmanTheNerd said:

A little bit of everything, gaming, video editing, graphic design, and a little bit of CAD. That's the reason I went with the 5930k at the time, as it was best overall at the time and it didn't sacrifice too much single core performance for multi core performance, and like I mentioned before, pci-e lanes.

well...if you want to upgrade from that right now you would have to either blow big bucks on intel X299 or sacrifice single-core performance and still spend a fair chunk of change on AMD threadripper...

[SolidSnake526]

1 minute ago, SawmanTheNerd said:

A little bit of everything, gaming, video editing, graphic design, and a little bit of CAD. That's the reason I went with the 5930k at the time, as it was best overall at the time and it didn't sacrifice too much single core performance for multi core performance, and like I mentioned before, pci-e lanes.

If you're going to need the single thread performance and can't just rely on nT performance, the only real move from that would be X299. I'd say the new eVGA X299 Dark board and something like a 7820X or a 7900X. 7820X won't gain you any lanes but will gain you cores and single thread performance; 7900X will gain cores and lanes (40 CPU-bound). Anything more and the single thread performance starts to drop off while nT performance ramps up (for obvious reasons).

[orbitalbuzzsaw]

Why would you need to upgrade? A 5930K is still an awesome CPU ~= 8700k.

[SawmanTheNerd]

29 minutes ago, SolidSnake526 said:

If you're going to need the single thread performance and can't just rely on nT performance, the only real move from that would be X299. I'd say the new eVGA X299 Dark board and something like a 7820X or a 7900X. 7820X won't gain you any lanes but will gain you cores and single thread performance; 7900X will gain cores and lanes (40 CPU-bound). Anything more and the single thread performance starts to drop off while nT performance ramps up (for obvious reasons).

7900X is the one I was looking at before I made this post, it seems to be everything I want. The price is a little daunting but it might be justified. The 7820X is sadly out of the picture, purely because of the decrease in lanes. The 7900x might be my only choice so far. Thanks for the input!

 

20 minutes ago, orbitalbuzzsaw said:

Why would you need to upgrade? A 5930K is still an awesome CPU ~= 8700k.

More of a want than a need if anything, don't get me wrong, it's a great CPU but it feels a little dated in my system. 

[SolidSnake526]

2 minutes ago, SawmanTheNerd said:

7900X is the one I was looking at before I made this post, it seems to be everything I want. The price is a little daunting but it might be justified. The 7820X is sadly out of the picture, purely because of the decrease in lanes. The 7900x might be my only choice so far. Thanks for the input!

Oh geez, I didn't realize the 5930K had 40 lanes too. I thought that was just the 6900K and up, forgot that Haswell-E had a 40-lane CPU that wasn't an X-SKU.

[Enderman]

5 minutes ago, orbitalbuzzsaw said:

Why would you need to upgrade? A 5930K is still an awesome CPU ~= 8700k.

LOL that's a great joke 

[SawmanTheNerd]

11 minutes ago, SolidSnake526 said:

Oh geez, I didn't realize the 5930K had 40 lanes too. I thought that was just the 6900K and up, forgot that Haswell-E had a 40-lane CPU that wasn't an X-SKU.

Yeah, that was my reason for the 5930k instead of 5820k

[SolidSnake526]

2 minutes ago, SawmanTheNerd said:

Yeah, that was my reason for the 5930k instead of 5820k

What're you doing with all the lanes, anyway?

I'm rocking a 5820k myself, and I've still got lanes to spare. But I'm only running a single GPU, an NVMe drive, and a WiFi adapter, so...

[CapitalistVN]

The only viable upgrade would be an i7 6850K for that platform... But a Ryzen 7 1800X smoked them all.

[SawmanTheNerd]

6 minutes ago, SolidSnake526 said:

What're you doing with all the lanes, anyway?

I'm rocking a 5820k myself, and I've still got lanes to spare. But I'm only running a single GPU, an NVMe drive, and a WiFi adapter, so...

2x 1080Ti's, WiFi adapter, 2x NVMe drives, and finally a BlackMagic Intensity Pro... I don't use ALL of my lanes but it uses more than 28 total

[SolidSnake526]

3 minutes ago, SawmanTheNerd said:

2x 1080Ti's, WiFi adapter, 2x NVMe drives, and finally a BlackMagic Intensity Pro... I don't use ALL of my lanes but it uses more than 28 total

God damn...which cards? Have you ever considered doing a custom loop on this, especially with a new build potentially in the cards?

[SawmanTheNerd]

2 minutes ago, CapitalistVN said:

The only viable upgrade would be an i7 6850K for that platform... But a Ryzen 7 1800X smoked them all.

I'm going to be buying another motherboard, that Is on another platform x299 most likely. 6950k is irrelevant at this point. It's powerful, but their are better solutions 

[SolidSnake526]

1 minute ago, SawmanTheNerd said:

I'm going to be buying another motherboard, that Is on another platform x299 most likely. 6950k is irrelevant at this point. It's powerful, but their are better solutions 

I think the confusion is because "upgrade path" typically implies staying on the same chipset, which you already know you aren't doing.

But I don't really see how a 1800X "smokes" a 6850K when the intended use case is completely different.

 

Back to your issue about lanes though, I think it is absolutely inexcusable that both Zen AND Coffee Lake are adhering to 16 lanes on the consumer SKU's. At LEAST 20 should be the new standard, what with NVMe drives dropping in price rapidly. I understand not jumping to 24+ lanes to keep the entry level HEDT SKU's viable, but 16 just isn't enough anymore.

[SawmanTheNerd]

2 minutes ago, SolidSnake526 said:

I think the confusion is because "upgrade path" typically implies staying on the same chipset, which you already know you aren't doing.

But I don't really see how a 1800X "smokes" a 6850K when the intended use case is completely different.

 

Back to your issue about lanes though, I think it is absolutely inexcusable that both Zen AND Coffee Lake are adhering to 16 lanes on the consumer SKU's. At LEAST 20 should be the new standard, what with NVMe drives dropping in price rapidly. I understand not jumping to 24+ lanes to keep the entry level HEDT SKU's viable, but 16 just isn't enough anymore.

I agree completely. Right now is a terrible time for the high end PC market with GPU prices and CPUs not meeting the needs of people. Granted, the kind of stuff I do is just a minority.

[CapitalistVN]

Then I would suggest that you stay with the 5930K for a while as this is still a very capable CPU. If you are not in immediate need of upgrading then wait for the prices to go down and probably wait for the HEDT Coffee Lake CPUs.